Re: How Management Controls Unions

2009-03-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Please explain why we have it wrong and you don't. > http://ispeakthroughlinks.com ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.ne

Re: Government running GM?

2009-03-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Oh great, so now we're going to make cars. I'm sure the government will be > just as good at that as it is at everything else. > I LOVE the government's newest release: http://www.pontiac.com/byoCustomizeVehicle.do?year=2009&title=G8&brand=g8&pvc=210&styleId=308408&evar10=byo_p

Re: Government running GM?

2009-03-29 Thread Robert Munn
If I had any confidence in the government to pick the best people, I would agree. Unfortunately, it all comes down to politics now- who was a supporter, who was a detractor, who the "friends" of the Obama administration are. I would rather see GM fail and let private money pick up the pieces and m

Re: Government running GM?

2009-03-29 Thread Scott Stroz
Given the fact that GM asked for billions of dollars to stay afloat, I am not sure how I feel about this. One one hand, I am not so sure I like the gov't being that involved, but on the other, if we are giving them this billions, shouldn't we make sure the best people are running the show? On Su

Re: How Management Controls Unions

2009-03-29 Thread Scott Stroz
It should also be noted that, at least in New Jersey, once you sign the authorization card the union can keep and use that card for up to 5 years ( I think it is 5 years) even if you change your mind and decide you do not want the union. On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Sam wrote: > > Please e

Re: How Management Controls Unions

2009-03-29 Thread Sam
Please explain why we have it wrong and you don't. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_check The current method for workers to win recognition of their union in the United States is a sign-up then an election process. In that, a petition or an authorization card with the signatures of at least 30%

Re: How Management Controls Unions

2009-03-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > LOL, you are a true sucker for that populist line. "The unions" - the fat > cats running the show for the unions - no better represent the interests of > the workers than the management of the companies where they work. Couldn't agree with you more. As I've said lots o' times,

Obama taking another play from Bush playbook

2009-03-29 Thread Robert Munn
Wow, staging a town hall meeting with "friendlies" to ask soft questions. Isn't that one of the things Bush did that drove liberals crazy? http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/03/27/obama_town_hall_questioners_we.html?hpid=topnews

Re: How Management Controls Unions

2009-03-29 Thread Robert Munn
LOL, you are a true sucker for that populist line. "The unions" - the fat cats running the show for the unions - no better represent the interests of the workers than the management of the companies where they work. Incompetent, self-interested union leadership played a fundamental role in the des

Re: How Management Controls Unions

2009-03-29 Thread Scott Stroz
So you think its a good thing that companies will have a harder time managing their business they way they want? Essentially, that is what will happen if it is made easier for unions to get started in a company. I think it is easy enough as it is now, they do not need any help. You naivete that

Re: How Management Controls Unions

2009-03-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > Again, I see no issue here. My point wasn't whether YOU see an issue, but whether union leadership sees an issue. The answer is yes they do, thus they're pursing a legal remedy to a perceived problem. I was laying out why unions don't like the current set up. Business is obvio

Re: happy birthday

2009-03-29 Thread Erika L. Walker
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Government running GM?

2009-03-29 Thread Robert Munn
GM CEO just resigned at the behest of President Obama: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20625.html Oh great, so now we're going to make cars. I'm sure the government will be just as good at that as it is at everything else. ~

Re: new tv. Yay!

2009-03-29 Thread Paul Ihrig
you need monoprice for all cable and switching needs. http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10110 On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > >Yea best buy has some nice HDMI switchers too so i can have my ps3 xbox > >cable box and apple tv all going int

Re: How Management Controls Unions

2009-03-29 Thread Scott Stroz
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > Scott wrote: > > Only one thign you said would be correct. Employees coyld not have > meetings > > about the union on company time, but I see no issue with that. > > The issue with that is that management can market to employees 24/7 to >

happy birthday

2009-03-29 Thread Dana
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Re: new tv. Yay!

2009-03-29 Thread Larry Lyons
>Yea best buy has some nice HDMI switchers too so i can have my ps3 xbox >cable box and apple tv all going into the av reciever. > thx, any suggestions where you get those - other than Best Buy. BTW the next step is a Mac Mini. I think the Apple TV is just too underpowered. ~~

Re: Overseas Contingency Operation

2009-03-29 Thread Michael Grant
I disagree. A "secret election" is completely fair because no one will know about it. That's why it's secret. Perhaps a secret ballot as part of a normal election would be more effective. *nods* On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I agree that a secret election alone will no

Re: new tv. Yay!

2009-03-29 Thread Tony
im going to get the 46" Polaroid at walmart $1000 and by FAR the least pixelated tv on the market, and ive checked a TON of them out... the $784 sharp one next to it was a close second, but im sorry, vizio, sony, none of the BIG guys even come closed to impressing me, and are mostly over priced.

Re: new tv. Yay!

2009-03-29 Thread Bill Wheatley
Yea best buy has some nice HDMI switchers too so i can have my ps3 xbox cable box and apple tv all going into the av reciever. On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > > > My new TV was delivered by bestbuy yesterday. It's a 50" Kuro. > > It's gorgeous. > > > > > > Currently