It should also be noted that, at least in New Jersey, once you sign the authorization card the union can keep and use that card for up to 5 years ( I think it is 5 years) even if you change your mind and decide you do not want the union.
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Sam <sammyc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Please explain why we have it wrong and you don't. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_check > > The current method for workers to win recognition of their union in > the United States is a sign-up then an election process. In that, a > petition or an authorization card with the signatures of at least 30% > of the employees requesting a union is submitted to the National Labor > Relations Board (NLRB), who then verifies and orders a secret ballot > election. Two exceptions exist. If over 50% of the employees sign an > authorization card requesting a union, the employer can voluntarily > choose to waive the secret ballot election process and just recognize > the union. The other exception is a last resort, which allows the NLRB > to order an employer to recognize a union if over 50% have signed > cards if the employer has engaged in unfair labor practices that make > a fair election unlikely. > > Under the proposed Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA), if the NLRB > verifies that over 50% of the employees signed authorization cards, > the secret ballot election is bypassed and a union is automatically > formed. Introduced in the U.S. Congress in 2005 and reintroduced in > 2007 and 2009, the EFCA provides that the NLRB would recognize the > union's role as the official bargaining representative if a majority > of employees have authorized that representation via majority sign-up > (card check), without requiring a secret ballot election.[1][2] Under > The EFCA, if over 30% and less than 50% of employees sign a petition > or authorization cards, the NLRB would still order a secret ballot > election for union representation. In other words, the current > threshold to have a secret ballot election is signatures from 30% of > employees. The EFCA would keep that threshold, but make a new > threshold of signatures from 50% + 1 of employees to bypass the secret > ballot election and automatically be unionized. Therefore a petition > signature would have the same weight as a "yes" vote in a secret > ballot election. > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Gruss Gott <grussg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That's why I gotta laugh when someone pretends their opposition to > > Card Check is out of concern is for the worker. I mean you gotta be > > really shameless to try to sell that bullshit when unions are saying > > it's number one priority. > > > > Especially when 99% of the people selling the talking points don't > > even understand how things work today or how the bill will change > > them. They're essentially victims of the MSM given that > > anti-CardCheck has spent millions to implant the talking points into > > their brains. Clearly it's money well spent as we can hear the > > regurgitated spewtum even on this list. > > > > Even more ironic is that the Republican partisans repeating the > > propaganda don't understand that this is actually one of the biggest - > > the biggest? - Democratic issue: some REALLY big donors Dem donors see > > this as their #1 piece of legislation to block; larger than taxes or > > anything else. > > > > As I've said, personally I'm indifferent, but if these Republicans > > have been tricked into serving the largest Democratic donors then I > > gotta laugh. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:293150 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
