Re: Who is killing the public option? Corporate PACs. Duh.

2009-08-24 Thread Robert Munn
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Scott Str wrote: > > I know I need to have home owners insurance to keep my mortgage, but > that does not make it a law, merely a requirement of the lender. If > my house was paid off, I would not be required by anyone to carry home > owners insurance (granted, i

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Dana
thought he said they were at like 36 weeks? That's by means horrifyingly early. My gyn would have induced labor at that point if there had been a long-term threat to my health. Some were, well, threatening, but had not materialize, and I got through another two weeks bored to tears on strict bedre

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Dana
I've heard that. No idea whether it is true. I *will* say that if the Scottish people are big enough to be compassionate in the circumstances (this being said without opinon as to whether this is what did or should have happened) then it's a pretty piss-poor thanks to get the guy a hero's welcome

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Dana
/me hangs head I know On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Since when did facts ever enter into any of our discussions here? Kill > joy. > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Dana wrote: > > > > for the record, I heard today that Calley did express regret recently at > a >

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > > Since when did facts ever enter into any of our  discussions here?  Kill joy. > Welp, here are some damn good speculations: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-08-24/why-the-lockerbie-bomber-was-freed/ Nobody has yet proved that the British government struck a

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
When I still worked in EMS (been about 6 years now) 25 weeks was the 'cut off' - anything before 25 weeks and the mortality rate goes way up. Oddly enough, I remember when I was in training 20 years ago and being told that 30 weeks was the 'cut off'. Just goes to show the advancements that have be

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
Since when did facts ever enter into any of our discussions here? Kill joy. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Dana wrote: > > for the record, I heard today that Calley did express regret recently at a > Kiwanis meeting. I was thinking, Kiwanis?? Apart from that, some of the > details in the pie

This Old Dude Is Hilarious

2009-08-24 Thread Gruss Gott
* Name Justin * Bio I'm 28. I live with my 73-year-old dad. He is awesome. I just write down shit that he says http://twitter.com/shitmydadsays Example: "The dog is not bored, it's a fucking dog. It's not like he's waiting for me to give him a fucking rubix cube. He's a god damned dog." 10:43 AM

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Dana
ooo ooo I know this one On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Maureen wrote: > > Gruss, you're as bad about defending insurance companies as Sam is > about defending Shrub and Rove. Which one do you work for? > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > > > > What do you claim the

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Dana
so you see? Reassure your wife if she needs it. It will be fine. The baby needs a little TLC and she is getting it. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > And MacKenna has "monkey toes" like daddy... and I used to skate "gorilla > grip" > > -- > Scott Stewart > ColdFusion De

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Dana
for the record, I heard today that Calley did express regret recently at a Kiwanis meeting. I was thinking, Kiwanis?? Apart from that, some of the details in the piece (Democracy Now) were pretty hard to listen to and might give me nightmares. I am not particularly in favor of the Lockerbie guy's

RE: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stewart
And MacKenna has "monkey toes" like daddy... and I used to skate "gorilla grip" -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 10:17 P

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Dana
there *should* be beer. If it helps, James was about that length when he was born I think, and five pounds exactly. Today he is a 6'4 and a healthy teenager with the constitution of a horse. Apart from hay fever his only medical problems in the last five years have been skateboarding accidents.

RE: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stewart
Dude, you just bought yerself an invite to her first birthday party there WILL be beer.. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 2

RE: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Jeff Garza
WooHoo I work for the Worstest!!! -Original Message- Weapons manufacturers are the worst, following closely by lobbyists, insurance companies, hospital corporations, and mortgage brokers. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I think mattress places are the wor

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Dana
I had induced labor about two weeks early because I had health problems when I was pregnant. (That s how I know the little bit I contributed the few minutes ago).They told me at the time that they wanted to wait to 38 weeks because the baby's lungs are (did they say stronger?) after that we m

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Please keep my family in your good thoughts, prayers and energy. > > You guys rock... all of you, our dysfunctional extended family (you too Sam > :) ) Congrats, Scott! We'll be praying for you here - and as others have said, 6 weeks premature and 5+ pounds is a good weight!

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Dana
yay! Not sure if they still use those guidelines, but any baby of five pounds or more used to not be considered premature whether early or not... so she's just precocious I guess? And isn't 18" kinda long? Sounds like a big strong girl with a lot she wants to get done! On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Bruce Sorge
Try not to focus so much on the crime as the circumstances. Calley was in Vietnam, a very tough war at best. A person's objectivity and frame of mind are skewed. You have no idea how many times I wanted to just open up on a bunch of Iraqi's just because they were there. Yes, as soldiers we hav

Re: New List Proposal - cf-boringpointlessnonstophealthcaredeb...@houseoffusion.com

2009-08-24 Thread Erika L. Rich
ditto ditto & ditto! On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Scott Raley wrote: > > +1 > > Can we patent this too... > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion maili

Re: Who is killing the public option? Corporate PACs. Duh.

2009-08-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > > I know I need to have home owners insurance to keep my mortgage, but > that does not make it a law, merely a requirement of the lender. Yup. Good ole private market regulating for ya! ~| Want to reach the Col

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Judah wrote: > Historically, administrative overhead has been compared on the basis > of administrative costs per dollar of claims. Which is a really stupid way to do it because it doesn't count taxes, non-claims related services, but worst of all skews "efficiency" purely by the volume of clai

Re: Who is killing the public option? Corporate PACs. Duh.

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
I know I need to have home owners insurance to keep my mortgage, but that does not make it a law, merely a requirement of the lender. If my house was paid off, I would not be required by anyone to carry home owners insurance (granted, it would be stupid not to, but it would not be required) On M

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Mo wrote: > > Gruss, you're as bad about defending insurance companies as Sam is > about defending Shrub and Rove.  Which one do you work for? > All of them if I'm lucky ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something

Re: Who is killing the public option? Corporate PACs. Duh.

2009-08-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > > Oh, and as far as I know, at least not here in WV nor in NJ, there is > no law that states I must have homeowners insurance. > Check your mortgage agreement? ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with some

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
Surfactant - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulmonary_surfactant Basically, its kind of like lubrication for the lungs. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > An update, > > As I said earlier our daughter is about 6 weeks premature, so her lungs are > not fully developed, she's

RE: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stewart
An update, As I said earlier our daughter is about 6 weeks premature, so her lungs are not fully developed, she's got a pretty tough fight ahead of her. She'll be intubated tonight and they'll administer some kind of surficant (sp?) to her lungs, that she would've had if she'd been full term (If

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Sam
Not enough verifiable sources :) On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 4:24 PM, William Bowen wrote: > >> These guys? >> http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6465 > > strange, *that* profile left out IPA's known incidents of  baby eating > and blood drinking... ~~

RE: New List Proposal - cf-boringpointlessnonstophealthcaredeb...@houseoffusion.com

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stewart
I want royalties :) -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Scott Raley [mailto:sra...@itc-llc.com] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:39 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: New List Proposal - cf-bori

RE: New List Proposal - cf-boringpointlessnonstophealthcaredeb...@houseoffusion.com

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Raley
+1 Can we patent this too... -Original Message- From: Michael Grant [mailto:mgr...@modus.bz] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 7:06 PM To: cf-community Subject: New List Proposal - cf-boringpointlessnonstophealthcaredeb...@houseoffusion.com Just an idea. ~~

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread William Bowen
> These guys? > http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6465 strange, *that* profile left out IPA's known incidents of baby eating and blood drinking... :-P -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Michael Grant
My heartfelt congrats to you! Having babies is the shizz! Glad everyone is healthy. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Hey all.. > > > > Were in pre-term labor, baby will come about a month early, but she's > strong.. she'll be in the NICU for a couple of weeks but she'll

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Paul Ihrig
again congrats! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:302516 Subsc

New List Proposal - cf-boringpointlessnonstophealthcaredeb...@houseoffusion.com

2009-08-24 Thread Michael Grant
Just an idea. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:302515 Subscr

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Sam
Again you ridicule me while spewing pure BS. Trust me I know is not a good debate tactic. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Maureen wrote: > > I've been writing software for the insurance industry for longer than > most of you guys have been alive.  I don't need anyone to tell me how > corrupt t

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Maureen
Weapons manufacturers are the worst, following closely by lobbyists, insurance companies, hospital corporations, and mortgage brokers. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I think mattress places are the worstthere had got to be some > tremendous mark-up on that stuff ;)

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Erika L. Rich
YAY! Congratulations And heck, no - the fun is just beginning! :) She'll have you guys so wrapped around your fingers you'll not be able to stand it when it all ends. Of course pics pics pics. :) On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:22 PM, G Money wrote: > Glad to hear it Scott...congratulations

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Judah McAuley
Brilliant. Sounds like a good strong baby to come through like that that early. Mazel Tov. Judah On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > You guys rock thank you all, she is here.. > > 5lbs 2oz, 18.25 inches. > > Breathing on her own, with some extra oxygen and pressure.. fussi

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Judah McAuley
I did challenge their methodology and did so in a quite straight forward fashion. Historically, administrative overhead has been compared on the basis of administrative costs per dollar of claims. Medicare beats out private insurance on this metric hands down. The Heritage article you linked to a

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Larry Lyons
>> Larry wrote: >>>I'll believe Heritage over Judah everyday and so should you >>> >> I would think that Judah is more trustworthy in many of his statements. >> > >But in this case there's no comparison because the Heritage Foundation >has a published methodology and articulated factbase while Jud

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread denstar
WOOHOO! Welcome to the world, wee one! On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > You guys rock thank you all, she is here.. > > 5lbs 2oz, 18.25 inches. > > Breathing on her own, with some extra oxygen and pressure.. fussing already. ~

Re: Who is killing the public option? Corporate PACs. Duh.

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
Great reference Here, take this pen On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: >> (1.) Should government be a producer and provider of consumer good and >> services? > > "I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or pr

Re: Who is killing the public option? Corporate PACs. Duh.

2009-08-24 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > (1.) Should government be a producer and provider of consumer good and > services? "I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or proces

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Larry Lyons
>I'll believe Heritage over Judah everyday and so should you > > >> >> Gruss, you're as bad about defending insurance companies as Sam is >> about defending Shrub and Rove.  Which one do you work for? Somehow I'm not surprised Sam. Doesn't your tinfoil hat get too tight at times? ~~~

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
We may have a winner. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:23 PM, G Money wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > >> >> Not trying to say it OK, but can you name one industry that is not corrupt? > > > Pr0n? > > -- > Some things will never change > That's just the way it is > > >

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Larry Lyons
>You guys rock thank you all, she is here.. > >5lbs 2oz, 18.25 inches. > >Breathing on her own, with some extra oxygen and pressure.. fussing already. > Fantastic news. Sounds like she's already taking after her dad. Congratulations to you and your wife. larry

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread G Money
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Not trying to say it OK, but can you name one industry that is not corrupt? Pr0n? -- Some things will never change That's just the way it is ~| Want to reach the Col

Re: Who is killing the public option? Corporate PACs. Duh.

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
Oh, and as far as I know, at least not here in WV nor in NJ, there is no law that states I must have homeowners insurance. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> RoMunn wrote: >> >> My fear, to follow Scott's thought on medicare reimbursement, is that >> we will artificial price

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Sam
These guys? http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6465 On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > >>I'll believe Heritage over Judah everyday and so should you >> >> > > Given the number of times Heritage Foundation has fudged, misrepresented or > outright lied i

Re: Who is killing the public option? Corporate PACs. Duh.

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
But, what if my answers are yes, yes and no...or...no, yes, noor no, no, yes...this is all too confusing. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> RoMunn wrote: >> >> My fear, to follow Scott's thought on medicare reimbursement, is that >> we will artificial price controls on

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread G Money
5 lbs, that's great for someone born that early. Glad to hear it Scott...congratulationsand I hope you've enjoyed yourself to this point, because the fun is over :) On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > You guys rock thank you all, she is here.. > > 5lbs 2oz, 18.25 inch

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Larry wrote: >>I'll believe Heritage over Judah everyday and so should you >> > I would think that Judah is more trustworthy in many of his statements. > But in this case there's no comparison because the Heritage Foundation has a published methodology and articulated factbase while Judah has s

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Maureen wrote: > > Nope.  But insurance and health care are close to being the worst. > So let's assume you're right and take a step back. Why is capitalism so great in the first place? Because it's the only system known to Man that takes greed and turns it into a force for wealth building th

RE: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Sandra Clark
Congratulations to the little one and the happy parents! -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:sstwebwo...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 1:36 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: we are in labor You guys rock thank you all, she is here.. 5lbs 2oz, 18.25 inches. B

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Larry Lyons
>I'll believe Heritage over Judah everyday and so should you > > Given the number of times Heritage Foundation has fudged, misrepresented or outright lied in its reports (see http://www.accuracy.org/newsrelease.php?articleId=272 for just a few of the times the HF has been caught), I would thin

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Tony
fnckina Scotty!! Sent from my iPhone... don't hate On Aug 24, 2009, at 2:07 PM, "Scott Stewart" wrote: > > Almost 34 weeks > > I'm relieved.. happy, I wanna go see my little girl, (they haven't > moved us > up to the post room yet) > > -- > Scott Stewart > ColdFusion Developer > 44

RE: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stewart
Almost 34 weeks I'm relieved.. happy, I wanna go see my little girl, (they haven't moved us up to the post room yet) -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmai

Re: Who is killing the public option? Corporate PACs. Duh.

2009-08-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > > My fear, to follow Scott's thought on medicare reimbursement, is that > we will artificial price controls on the market if everyone is forced > into a similar system. > Government price controls NEVER work. That's why France is looking to us - US! - for THEIR heading-to-bankr

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
I think mattress places are the worstthere had got to be some tremendous mark-up on that stuff ;) On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Maureen wrote: > > Nope.  But insurance and health care are close to being the worst. > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: >> >> Not trying to

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Maureen
Nope. But insurance and health care are close to being the worst. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Not trying to say it OK, but can you name one industry that is not corrupt? ~| Want to reach the ColdFus

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
Fantastic! How many weeks along were you guys? 9I know you told me at CFU, but I cannot remember) On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > You guys rock thank you all, she is here.. > > 5lbs 2oz, 18.25 inches. > > Breathing on her own, with some extra oxygen and pressure.. fuss

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
Not trying to say it OK, but can you name one industry that is not corrupt? On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I've been writing software for the insurance industry for longer than > most of you guys have been alive.  I don't need anyone to tell me how > corrupt they are. > > On

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Duane
Congrats! - Original Message - From: "Cameron Childress" To: "cf-community" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 2:35 PM Subject: Re: we are in labor > > Congrats! > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Scott Stewart > wrote: >> You guys rock thank you all, she is here.. >> >> 5lbs 2oz, 18.

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Maureen
I've been writing software for the insurance industry for longer than most of you guys have been alive. I don't need anyone to tell me how corrupt they are. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Sam wrote: > > I'll believe Heritage over Judah everyday and so should you > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > I'm just trying to understand the moral differences here. I think treating everything you list as the same, blindly, would be dangerous and foolish as a nation. Each situation is different in many many ways and painting them all as the same w

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
I cannot speak to why the nation as a whole was not up in arms over Calley, but can speak to why I was not...I was 6. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > OK there is no difference. And yes I am questioning why this nation was not > up in arms about Calley's release or the glo

Re: Who is killing the public option? Corporate PACs. Duh.

2009-08-24 Thread Robert Munn
My fear, to follow Scott's thought on medicare reimbursement, is that we will artificial price controls on the market if everyone is forced into a similar system. As venezuela has so clearly demonstrated of late, artifical price controls lead directly to shortages of goods and services. On 8/24/

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Cameron Childress
Congrats! On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Scott Stewart wrote: > You guys rock thank you all, she is here.. > > 5lbs 2oz, 18.25 inches. > > Breathing on her own, with some extra oxygen and pressure.. fussing already. ~| Want to

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread William Bowen
Congratulations!!! > You guys rock thank you all, she is here.. > > 5lbs 2oz, 18.25 inches. > > Breathing on her own, with some extra oxygen and pressure.. fussing already. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher

RE: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stewart
You guys rock thank you all, she is here.. 5lbs 2oz, 18.25 inches. Breathing on her own, with some extra oxygen and pressure.. fussing already. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -Original Message- From: Scott Ste

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Larry Lyons
OK there is no difference. And yes I am questioning why this nation was not up in arms about Calley's release or the glossing over of various "incidents" in Afghanistan and Iraq since 2001. What is the moral culpability of this nation? Or is it that Americans are special? It seems to me that

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Sam
I'll believe Heritage over Judah everyday and so should you On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Maureen wrote: > > Gruss, you're as bad about defending insurance companies as Sam is > about defending Shrub and Rove.  Which one do you work for? ~

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Sam
They were found innocent. Seems odd to you that a US soldier could be not guilty, but a terrorist On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > > OK if there is a difficulty involving the length of time, what about Baugram > in 2001, the Qala-I-Janghi fortress the same year, or Ha

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Maureen
Gruss, you're as bad about defending insurance companies as Sam is about defending Shrub and Rove. Which one do you work for? On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > What do you claim the per-beneficiary cost was in 2005 for Medicare > vs. private insurance and how did you deriv

Re: Medicare LESS Efficient?

2009-08-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Judah wrote: > The fact that Medicare has lower administrative rates *in spite of* > their primary clientčle is evidence that they are doing something > right. Maybe if you had some facts - like they did - to back up your suppositions there might be a debate. For example, they use facts to ma

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
Congrats and good luck! On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Hey all.. > > > > Were in pre-term labor, baby will come about a month early, but she's > strong.. she'll be in the NICU for a couple of weeks but she'll be fine.. > > > > -- > Scott Stewart > ColdFusion Developer

Re: Who is killing the public option? Corporate PACs. Duh.

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
Also keep in mind that I am not referring to doctors offices or hospitals (but they may be affected) but specifically EMS services (which I am intimately familiar). There are not people who are making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. In most places paramedics make very little compared to

Re: Who is killing the public option? Corporate PACs. Duh.

2009-08-24 Thread Dana
no On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > Dana wrote: > > the list price is *higher* without the middleman, not the usual market > > situation. Pricing is totally amok in fact, in large part because of the > > dysfunctional way the insurance companies measure risk. > > Hmm. I

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
I am saying there is no difference. You seem to be hung up on the fact that none of us were up in arms when Calley was released in 1974 when most of use were under 10 and a lot were not even born yet. To be honest, I had never heard of Calley until you mentioned it in this thread and you want to

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Erika L. Rich
Ahhh. Thought so. Yeah, that was Paul. It's their anniversary or something e with a k On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > >I think that was Paul ... ? > > > > I use the web archive, no names so i was guessing. > > ~

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
Yes, Chris, you so eloquently stated your case, I have to come over to your side. * makes hand motion of putting on a glove * Respect My Authority! On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:58 AM, G Money wrote: > > Brilliant. > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Chris Stoner wrote: > > > > > Why would a

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Larry Lyons
>I think that was Paul ... ? > I use the web archive, no names so i was guessing. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.hous

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread G Money
Brilliant. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Chris Stoner wrote: > > Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on > Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! > But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to > do with this cas

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
What the hell does his being a "dying man" have to do with it? That is the part of this I do not get at all. Doesn't "life in prison" mean "dying in jail"? And yes, those other atrocities are atrocities, and the people involved should be prosecuted, and either get the death penalty, or life in

Re: Who is killing the public option? Corporate PACs. Duh.

2009-08-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Scott wrote: > > I fear that the savings we see from Medicare is from paying out > smaller and smaller reimbursements. I believe it comes from pricing pressure, but mostly Medicare Advantage plans. Judah will correct me if I'm wrong. My problem with the CBO report is that it's a report on the

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Chris Stoner
Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Larry Lyons
You say that killing 284 innocent civilians in an aircraft is terrorism and beyond the pale. What about torturing, raping, mutilating and killing almost 500 innocent civilians who were asleep in their villages. Is there something about aircraft that makes them special? Or is it as you claim t

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Erika L. Rich
I think that was Paul ... ? On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > I take it the movie you were planning on is out then... > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know o

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Larry Lyons
I take it the movie you were planning on is out then... But good luck Scott, and congratulations. Forget about sleep for the next year or so. larry >Hey all.. > > > >Were in pre-term labor, baby will come about a month early, but she's >strong.. she'll be in the NICU for a couple of weeks but

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Erika L. Rich
Happy thoughts for you today! :) ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/mess

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Paul Ihrig
hope you both stay safe! congrats. we are at week 28 ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-communi

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread G Money
Goog luck Scott...and more importantly, Scott's better half! On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Hey all.. > > > > Were in pre-term labor, baby will come about a month early, but she's > strong.. she'll be in the NICU for a couple of weeks but she'll be fine.. > > > > -- >

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
Congratulations! Sorry to hear, but great to hear. My prayers are with you. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Hey all.. > > > > Were in pre-term labor, baby will come about a month early, but she's > strong.. she'll be in the NICU for a couple of weeks but she'll be fi

Re: we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Raley
Good luck. We just hit 30 weeks. On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > Hey all.. > > > > Were in pre-term labor, baby will come about a month early, but she's > strong.. she'll be in the NICU for a couple of weeks but she'll be fine.. > > > > -- > Scott Stewart > ColdFusion

we are in labor

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stewart
Hey all.. Were in pre-term labor, baby will come about a month early, but she's strong.. she'll be in the NICU for a couple of weeks but she'll be fine.. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 ~~

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > >>For the record, I was five when that happened. > > So is there an age limit then? > Not so much an age limit as its hard to be outraged at stuff like this that happened when we were 5 (I was six when Calley was released). I can tell you that

Re: just relized.

2009-08-24 Thread Larry Lyons
>8 year anniversary is coming up in 2 weeks.. 9/2/1 >what to surprise a 7 month prego woman with?? >glider? diner/movie.. i want to see that bastards flick Inglorious Bastids isn't what I'd call a romantic movie. You may want to consider Timer Traveller's Wife. She may find that one more enjoyab

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Jerry Johnson
Larry, I think you are just wrong on this one. He should not have been released. Terrorism, killing 240 innocent people by blowing up a civilian passenger plane, is beyond the pale. Where is the compassion for the victims' families? Things that happened 40 years ago are not relevant, nor is th

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Scott Stroz
Does anyone else find the irony that Larry is pointing out hipocracy? On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > >>For the record, I was five when that happened. > > So is there an age limit then? > >> >>No I would not. I do not condone what Timothy McVeigh did either, and >>last time

Re: Terrorist Goes Free

2009-08-24 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > I'm saying that there is a degree of hypocrisy going on. This country has > a collective temper tantrum over the release of a dying man so he can > spend the last few days of his life with family after he served 8 years of a > life sentance. W

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