Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Sam
Study: Red states more charitable, but religion more a factor than wealth Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/20/study-red-states-more-charitable-but-religion-more-factor-than-wealth/#ixzz25bNec2mt . On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: He also

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Sam
Do the not like gays? . On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 5:01 PM, GMoney gm0n3...@gmail.com wrote: I went to dinner with a pair of folks last night. Two more Christian people you will not meet. One was a bit late because he had spent some time praying with an elderly friend of his. The other was

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Sam
Are you implying the one person you know with that crazy view covers everyone not like you? . On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Dana dana.tier...@gmail.com wrote: I know what you mean. These are the people who talk about killing babies but figure pregnant rape victims are just getting what

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
Topic Police just chimed in, they said this has nothing to do with Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: Are you implying the one person you know with that crazy view covers everyone not like you? . On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM,

Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
I just really want to get rid of Att but my options are limited outside the fact that I have been eying the Galaxy S3, the new Nokia Lumia 920 is way cool if announced today with what rumors are stating but will go to Att initially in USA. Boo!

Re: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread Vivec
Buy whatever you want on Amazon unlocked and without onerous contracts? Then sell as soon as the next one comes out and buy that. So in effect after the first initial payout you get a discount on the next unlocked phone through the sale of the old one. On 5 September 2012 09:42, Casey Dougall -

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Sam
You're a little late. . On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: Topic Police just chimed in, they said this has nothing to do with Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Isn't that the same as voting for Romney? On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. I'm voting for Jill Stein. Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: As for my opinion on Obama: He sucks. As for my opinion on Romney: He

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: You're a little late. I know; sorry, I just dislike expanding emails in gmail. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
As an atheist I would find that Obama producing Satan would be pretty impressive. Creating a mythical creature from nothing, well if he's that powerful he has my support. On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: I'm beginning to suspect that with Jerry even if

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
As usual Faux Snooze was very selective in its reporting. You need to read the actual Pew Charitable Trust report than depending on Fox. The data also showed that the same red states contributed the lowest amount to non-religious charities. So your trumpeting of the so-called red state

Re: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote: Buy whatever you want on Amazon unlocked and without onerous contracts? Then sell as soon as the next one comes out and buy that. So in effect after the first initial payout you get a discount on the next unlocked phone through

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Sam
That's cute Lar but WTF are you talking about? The Chronicle of Philanthropy did the study. I like your amazing grasp of teh obvious by pointing out that religious people donate to religious charities. . On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: As usual

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: As an atheist I would find that Obama producing Satan would be pretty impressive. Creating a mythical creature from nothing, well if he's that powerful he has my support. The one God mythical creation is a myth in my

RE: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Eric Roberts
You forget, the tea baggers were out protesting and yelling to keep government hands off their medicare. So apparently, it's not just a lone crazy guy that thinks that. It's a whole bunch of crazy people... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts

RE: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Eric Roberts
Yeah...I wouldn't consider tithing a altruistic contribution... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com

RE: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread Eric Roberts
They make them with scratch resistant lenses...granted it's not gorilla glass... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com

RE: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread Eric Roberts
I believe both Verizon and Sprint have the S3. I just got the Galaxy Nexus and love it. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In the 2009 protests in DC I was working near L'Enfant Plaza and saw most of the DC tea bagging protests firsthand. I saw at least 3 signs like that. Another story about that time during the big Thanksgiving demonstration, the family and I went to the NG Museum to see the Terracotta Warriors.

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Sam
Were they saying: pregnant rape victims are just getting what they deserve. . On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: You forget, the tea baggers were out protesting and yelling to keep government hands off their medicare. So apparently, it's not

Re: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: I believe both Verizon and Sprint have the S3. I just got the Galaxy Nexus and love it. Yeah Sprint is $50 ish cheaper than the others.

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Sam
What does your mad up anecdotal account have to do with: pregnant rape victims are just getting what they deserve. BTW, 10% is a ridiculous amount for sales tax. . On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: In the 2009 protests in DC I was working near

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread GMoney
What would you call it? On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Yeah...I wouldn't consider tithing a altruistic contribution... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, 10% is a ridiculous amount for sales tax. Not if you live in in one of these states or Israel... Israel 17% Illinois 11.5% Arizona 11.3% Alabama 10.5% Missouri 10.491% Louisiana 10%

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
BTW the Tenessee average tax levy on all purchases is 9.45 percent. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: BTW, 10% is a ridiculous amount for sales tax.

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Sam
Still too high. . On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: Not if you live in in one of these states or Israel... Israel 17% Illinois 11.5% Arizona 11.3% Alabama 10.5% Missouri 10.491% Louisiana 10%

Re: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread Sam
If the new Lumia is not on Verizon they might as well shutter Nokia. . On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com wrote: I just really want to get rid of Att but my options are limited outside the fact that I have been eying the

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Jerry Barnes
Yep. I'm voting for Jill Stein. Good for you. Still curious about Larry. Can he say it and mean it. J - I knew that when he left us he would go to heaven and help pass the bill. And now he can rest in peace. His dream for America's families has become a reality. - Nancy Pelosi on Ted

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Jerry Barnes
Geez, do any of you have a sense of humor? Yes. I laugh at humorous stuff. J - From the point of view of fundamental human liberties there is little to choose between communism, socialism and national socialism. They all are examples of the collectivist or totalitarian state. - F. A. Hayek

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Jerry Barnes
Topic Police just chimed in, they said this has nothing to do with Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama The topic has to be changed once one has lost anything worthwhile to say. J - The Utopian schemes of levelling, and a community of goods, are as visionary and impracticable, as those which vest

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Jerry Barnes
As an atheist I would find that Obama producing Satan would be pretty impressive. Creating a mythical creature from nothing, well if he's that powerful he has my support. Larry, all you need to say is: he has my support. You don't need any conditions, natural or supernatural. J - The

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: The topic has to be changed once one has lost anything worthwhile to say. Because there was nothing to say on the topic to begin with. We will continue to support Israel while Jews force Palestinians out of their hoods

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Jerry Barnes
We will continue to support Israel while Jews force Palestinians out of their hoods and Palestinians force Jews out of their hoods. All in all, they are still a middle east asset as long as they don't sell too much of our military tech to others. You see, to me this actually seems like things

RE: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Eric Roberts
Most do it because they feel they have to. Some do it thinking that they will get into heaven as a result. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread GMoney
Why do you do it? On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Most do it because they feel they have to. Some do it thinking that they will get into heaven as a result. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Sam
Hate much? I'm guessing you don't help out. . On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Most do it because they feel they have to. Some do it thinking that they will get into heaven as a result.

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
One can be good without God. Myself I prefer to be good for the sake of good, rather than in response to an extortion threat (Be good or suffer eternal damnation and hell). Moreover given the false wager of Pascal, I prefer Marcus Aurelius comment about that (pretty darned good considering he

RE: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Eric Roberts
Those are few and far between these days. These are the Christians I keep running into... http://youtu.be/qsT0NyUAa-o That is me yelling back at the end of the video...it does contain foul language (I am a Chicagoan hehehe) so fair warning if you are work...put on some headphones first hehehe

Could use your help tomorrow......

2012-09-05 Thread Scott Stroz
Could you guys please keep my son in your thoughts, prayers, meditations, etc. tomorrow? He is undergoing reconstructive surgery on his leg. Its not a major surgery, but, not a 'routine surgery', either. Thanx! -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things

Re: Could use your help tomorrow......

2012-09-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
whatever help my thoughts can give, they're yours. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Could you guys please keep my son in your thoughts, prayers, meditations, etc. tomorrow? He is undergoing reconstructive surgery on his leg. Its not a major surgery, but,

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
St. Augustine said, The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell. And Christianity took that and ran

Re: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread LRS Scout
I got a MyTouch Slide on T-Mobile and I couldn't be happier. Like $20 cheaper than closest competitor, and a much nicer camera and software package. That's with the big 10 gig a month unlimited package and mobile hotspot. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote: If

Re: Could use your help tomorrow......

2012-09-05 Thread Scott Stewart
Absolutely.. hope all goes well On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Could you guys please keep my son in your thoughts, prayers, meditations, etc. tomorrow? He is undergoing reconstructive surgery on his leg. Its not a major surgery, but, not a 'routine

Re: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
how is 10 gig a month unlimited? On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:09 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I got a MyTouch Slide on T-Mobile and I couldn't be happier. Like $20 cheaper than closest competitor, and a much nicer camera and software package. That's with the big 10 gig a month

RE: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Eric Roberts
Because it is the right thing to do...equality means equality for all. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
My religion or lack thereof has nothing to do with whom I'm voting for. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: As an atheist I would find that Obama producing Satan would be pretty impressive. Creating a mythical creature from nothing, well if he's that

Re: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread LRS Scout
I said that several times, but couldn't get a good answer. I guess it's limited after 10 gigs but not cut off? I've never come close to it yet. Even traveling and using the mobile hot spot. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: how is 10 gig a month

Re: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread Judah McAuley
T-mobile does their data plans as a certain amount at 4G speeds and then unlimited at 3G for the remainder of the billing cycle. So I have a 2 GB plan, if I for some reason went over it, my connection would still work, just at 3G until the beginning of the new cycle when I'd have 2 GB at 4G

Re: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread Ray Champagne
10GB is pretty hard to do in a month. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 4:32 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I said that several times, but couldn't get a good answer. I guess it's limited after 10 gigs but not cut off? I've never come close to it yet. Even traveling and using the mobile

Re: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In other words they start charging quite a lot after 10 or 12 gig. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:32 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I said that several times, but couldn't get a good answer. I guess it's limited after 10 gigs but not cut off? I've never come close to it yet. Even

Re: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
If you're also using your phone as a hot spot, you can eat up bandwidth very quickly. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Ray Champagne r...@raychampagne.com wrote: 10GB is pretty hard to do in a month. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 4:32 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote: I said that several

RE: Could use your help tomorrow......

2012-09-05 Thread Eric Roberts
Consider it done...may he heal quickly! Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at

Re: Lumia 920 - Ugg another cool smart phone goes to AtT

2012-09-05 Thread Judah McAuley
There are no overage data charges with T-Mobile, it's just 3G speed instead of 4G. Judah On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.com wrote: In other words they start charging quite a lot after 10 or 12 gig.

Re: Could use your help tomorrow......

2012-09-05 Thread Judah McAuley
Done and done. Best of luck to you all. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Could you guys please keep my son in your thoughts, prayers, meditations, etc. tomorrow? He is undergoing reconstructive surgery on his leg. Its not a major surgery, but, not a

Re: Could use your help tomorrow......

2012-09-05 Thread Dana
indeed On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: Consider it done...may he heal quickly! Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax:

Rut Ro: Anonymous group allegedly hacked Romney tax records

2012-09-05 Thread Cameron Childress
From http://bit.ly/OYjzTo An anonymous individual or group is alleging that they have gained all available 1040 tax forms of GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney by accessing computers in the Franklin office of the professional services firm PricewaterhouseCoopers.

Re: Could use your help tomorrow......

2012-09-05 Thread Cameron Childress
Absolutely! Positive thoughts headed your family's way! On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Could you guys please keep my son in your thoughts, prayers, meditations, etc. tomorrow? He is undergoing reconstructive surgery on his leg. Its not a major surgery,

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Maureen
Only if you assume that otherwise I would be voting for Obama, which is not necessarily the case. On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote: Isn't that the same as voting for Romney? On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Maureen mamamaur...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Could use your help tomorrow......

2012-09-05 Thread Paul Ihrig
will do. fn? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:354497

Re: Why Israel Doesn't Trust Obama

2012-09-05 Thread Jerry Barnes
Myself I prefer to be good for the sake of good, rather than in response to an extortion threat (Be good or suffer eternal damnation and hell). Are you talking about Christianity here? J - Men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all the other alternatives. - Abba Eban

Re: Could use your help tomorrow......

2012-09-05 Thread LRS Scout
You'll all be in my thoughts. On Sep 5, 2012 9:06 PM, Paul Ihrig pih...@gmail.com wrote: will do. fn? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!