RE: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Eric Roberts
Also, where a lot of the militia stuff changed is when we went from a state militia model to the national Guard Model. In either case, that "well regulated militia" was an actual legal entity that has the governor of the state as CinC. So when you see in military records civil war and earlier, y

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Judah McAuley
It's actually quite interesting, and something that gets little mentioned in this day, that the logic used in early American jurisprudence would lead to almost an exact inverse of the law we have today. Since they viewed it as a individual right but collective in it's purpose to be able to muster

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Judah McAuley
The militia certainly can be all of us...and ought to be well regulated. Hence the term "well regulated". I do believe that the founding fathers viewed many of the heavy handed weapons restrictions as tools of tyranny wielded by England and they wanted to make sure that that was not going to happ

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread LRS Scout
I don't ignore either part. Remember, who is the militia? According to Madison it is all of us. No, I'm sorry. My reading of the thoughts of the founders has proven to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that they men the arms trade to be free and open and without the fetters it currently has. On W

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Judah McAuley
Ok, here's the actual text: "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." The first clause sets up the second clause. The context being set for the right to bear arms is that of security of a free

RE: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Eric Roberts
I would say that is probably where the justification comes from. Whether it actually I or not is another story for the courts to decide...and it's not looking good for NDAA... Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com

Re: iPhone brightness issue

2012-10-02 Thread Ras Tafari
i just move it up to about halfway, or a bit more, and it seems fine to me now. the DEFAULT was too low. and i dont mind some battery drain for a brighter screen. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > I did that already. > > Sent from my iPhone 4S. > > On Oct 2, 2012, at 3:43 PM

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread LRS Scout
By that standard the government can do anything it wants. Is NDAA necessary and proper? On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > The national Labor Relations Act is a great example of necessary and > proper...Labor laws are usually defined by t

RE: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Eric Roberts
The national Labor Relations Act is a great example of necessary and proper...Labor laws are usually defined by the states, but there had to be some over all regulation, so they we able to go above what they would normally be able to do because of need...even if that means stepping on the toes of

RE: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Eric Roberts
I would disagree. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [ma

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread LRS Scout
No it does not. The 10th amendment soundly closes that loophole. That is simply not true. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > The constitution has a "necessary and proper" clause to allow for situation > that the constitution does not exp

RE: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Jeff Garza
Precisely... shall not be infringed is pretty cut and dry. I don't see any exclusionary language in there... or anything indicating congress has the authority to infringe that right. As for the states, it's only recently that the second has been held to apply to the states rather than just the F

RE: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Eric Roberts
The constitution has a "necessary and proper" clause to allow for situation that the constitution does not explicitly cover. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.thr

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Sam
I dvr and zoom through Bret Bier then the first 15 minutes of some local news station. The internet covers the rest. . On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "I know this is the popular thing to say these days but" > > I am not sure it's popular. I know people who don't w

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Sam
It seems the judge upheld the law as constitutional, makes sense, but blocked enforcing it for this election because not all voters have photo id's yet. As for Holder, do as I say not as I do? . On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I am neither a proponent nor an opponent of

RE: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread LRS Scout
Where is the power contained in the law (I assume we're talking about the brady prevention of handgun violence act?) Granted to congress or the states specifically? On Oct 2, 2012 9:26 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > That is in the law. > > > Three Ravens Consu

RE: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Eric Roberts
That is in the law. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Scott Stroz
I am neither a proponent nor an opponent of voter id laws. I don't understand why its such a huge issue that citizens show proof they are who they say they are when they go to vote. However, in order for a voter ID laws to pass the 'smell' test with me, it needs to have provisions for people who

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread LRS Scout
Really, what part of the law in question provides these exceptions? A felon cannot vote because of the provisions of due process. That's in the constitution, where is background checks? On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > There are also tim

RE: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Eric Roberts
There are also times when that right can be infringed...and those times are stated in the law. Like a felon cannot vote. Or you need to have a background check, and thus an ID, to buy a weapon. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@thre

Re: Real live impulse engines...

2012-10-02 Thread Scott Stewart
nerdgasm !! On 10/2/2012 8:12 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > Well working on them anyhow. > > > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57523867-1/star-trek-fusion-impulse-engi > ne-in-the-works/ > > > > Still very cool. > > > > ~~~

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I know this is the popular thing to say these days but" I am not sure it's popular. I know people who don't watch "news", but it's not an intentional action to ignore certain channels. It's just a lifestyle. I know people who will only watch Fox. I know people who will only watch CNN. U

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Judah McAuley
It's funny that you think that the 2nd Amendment is so clear cut, since a couple centuries of case law finds it to be rather muddied. I support an individual right to bear arms, but nothing about the 2nd Amendment is cut and dried. Judah On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Jeff Garza wrote: > >> So

Real live impulse engines...

2012-10-02 Thread Eric Roberts
Well working on them anyhow. http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57523867-1/star-trek-fusion-impulse-engi ne-in-the-works/ Still very cool. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfu

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Jeff Garza
> So is owning a gun. And that is a distinction that the folks on the left seem to be totally incapable of comprehending. No matter how many times "Shall Not Be Infringed" is explained, they just don't get it. Jeff Original Message > From: "LRS Scout" > Sent: Tuesday, Octo

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
"You need a photo ID to see Eric Holder speak but not to vote." Hey Sam, do you know if one needs an ID to get an Obama phone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio J - I never thought this day would happen. . . . I won’t have to work on putting gas in my car. I won’t have to work at pa

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Judah McAuley
The individual right to bear arms has only been decided law for less than 2 years, but yeah, I agree. Hence why it is important to be very careful about infringing upon that right and making sure any laws impacting that right are narrowly tailored. Just like, for instance, laws banning felons from

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread LRS Scout
So is owning a gun. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > That's a distinction that folks on the right seem to be totally incapable > of > comprehending. No matter how many times it is explained, they just don't > get it. > >

RE: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Eric Roberts
That's a distinction that folks on the right seem to be totally incapable of comprehending. No matter how many times it is explained, they just don't get it. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-525

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Judah McAuley
Voting is a constitutional right. Seeing Eric Holder isn't. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 2, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Sam wrote: > >> You need a photo ID to see Eric Holder speak but not to vote.

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2012, at 2:36 PM, Sam wrote: > You need a photo ID to see Eric Holder speak but not to vote. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/143027

Re: iPhone brightness issue

2012-10-02 Thread Bruce Sorge
I did that already. Sent from my iPhone 4S. On Oct 2, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > there is a setting which tries to "adjust the brightness" based on the > amount of light available to the 2 cameras. > > turn this off for your sanity. > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:

Re: iPhone brightness issue

2012-10-02 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
there is a setting which tries to "adjust the brightness" based on the amount of light available to the 2 cameras. turn this off for your sanity. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > Is it just my phone or has anyone else with an iPhone who upgraded to iOS 6 > having an iss

iPhone brightness issue

2012-10-02 Thread Bruce Sorge
Is it just my phone or has anyone else with an iPhone who upgraded to iOS 6 having an issue with the brightness going way down automatically when clicking the home button to use the phone? It's really annoying and random. I'll click the home button, and the screen will come on for a half a seco

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Sam
You need a photo ID to see Eric Holder speak but not to vote. Gotta love the game. . On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > voter suppression law halted for now. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology n

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Cameron Childress
Is that the suppression of voter suppression? What is it's overturned? would that be suppression of the suppression of voter suppression? On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > voter suppression law halted for now. > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/p

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
My touchy today aren't we? Is it my fault that you cannot see the joke? On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > You do realize that non-useful belittling names, like Faux, invalidate > any argument you have for many people, and cause most people to stop > reading at that p

Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Paul Ihrig
about time On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > voter suppression law halted for now. > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-enforcement-halted-by-judge/2012/10/02/bf240ffc-0c9d-11e2-bb5e-492c0d30bff6_story.html > > ~

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread GMoney
Why? I know this is the popular thing to say these days but.if you ignore the stupid shows set up to just scream, then they are just news organizations...some do a better job than others, but why would every single one of them be so poor at reporting the news that you'd feel obligated to refu

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
You do realize that non-useful belittling names, like Faux, invalidate any argument you have for many people, and cause most people to stop reading at that point? I have talked to a lot of people (from many parts of the political and religious spectrums) and they feel the same way. Does anyone f

RE: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Eric Roberts
Aren't live feeds usually on a delay just for that reason? Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > Personally, I can't stand Fox, MSNBC, PBS, NPR, ABC, NBC, and CBS. I > refuse to watch any of them. > I don't have cable TV, only business class internet from Time Warner. ~~

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
"If people have a problem with the fact that it was broadcasted, they can take it up with the FCC." Or just turn Fox off. Personally, I can't stand Fox, MSNBC, PBS, NPR, ABC, NBC, and CBS. I refuse to watch any of them. J - The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eigh

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
"If the cops can record video of everything we do in public so should the press." Amen. I just saw that the TSA confiscated someone's camera and erased footage of the checkpoint. There maybe cause to confiscate the camera, but there is no justification to delete the footage. If the TSA confis

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Faux has journalistic integrity? Whoda thunk that? I guess there's a first time for everything. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > Yeah, I don't think it was a conscious decision. I mean, it IS Fox, but > even they have *some* journalistic integrities. Someone fucked up,

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:58 PM, GMoney wrote: > Fox fucked up when they showed this. It is against their policy to show it. > Someone was supposed to cut off the live feed before it ever got to that. > Presumably that person has been fired. > The FCC can fine them for this, outside of that ac

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Ray Champagne
Yeah, I don't think it was a conscious decision. I mean, it IS Fox, but even they have *some* journalistic integrities. Someone fucked up, big time, and this is the result. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:58 AM, GMoney wrote: > > Fox fucked up when they showed this. It is against their policy to sh

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread GMoney
Fox fucked up when they showed this. It is against their policy to show it. Someone was supposed to cut off the live feed before it ever got to that. Presumably that person has been fired. I don't know if Fox has issued an apologymy guess would be they have. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:54 AM,

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I personally would not have shown it. I have no compassion for the guy. He was a tool. But I wouldn't have broadcast it on national live television. And I admit I hold those who DID make that decision to show it in very low regard. I think they are bad people from a moral and personal honor per

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Ray Champagne
A "real" person who shot at cops, carjacked a couple at gunpoint, shot at a helicopter, and previously spent about 2 years in the clink on felony charges. I don't really feel bad for him. Someone with terrible decision making skills allowed his kids to apparently watch this, those kids are the p

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread William Bowen
This was certainly less graphic than many (most) movies. I mean, generally in a movie you can actually see something. Oh, is the clamor because this was a "real" person? On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Ray Cham

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > I can't believe that we aren't already talking about this, whether it is > because of the obvious subject matter, or because it was Fox who broadcast > it. > If the cops can record video of everything we do in public so should the press.

Pennsylvania voter ID law enforcement halted by judge

2012-10-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
voter suppression law halted for now. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-enforcement-halted-by-judge/2012/10/02/bf240ffc-0c9d-11e2-bb5e-492c0d30bff6_story.html ~| Order the Adobe Coldf

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Ras Tafari
i saw it. meh. ive seen us citizens beheaded, hung from bridges and women raped behind dumpsters. like perry said so prophetically... "nothing's shocking" sadly. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > This is the first I heard of it...but then I don't watch Fox...or much ot

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RE: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Eric Roberts
This is the first I heard of it...but then I don't watch Fox...or much other TV for that matter. Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer ow...@threeravensconsulting.com tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com -

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Ray Champagne
If you care to see it, it apparently is still showing in YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5dQym8bKhg On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > Didnt see it, Glad i didnt see it, and think Fox were a-holes to show it. > > (as would have been any news channel that sho

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Ray Champagne
Yes, there was definitely time, so much so that in the video, Shepard Smith was yelling at the production crew to "shut it off shut it off shut it off" - literally several times. After it happened, they panned back to Shep and he was visibly agitated. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:50 AM, GMoney wrot

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Didnt see it, Glad i didnt see it, and think Fox were a-holes to show it. (as would have been any news channel that showed it live). I'd boycott them, but it is Fox News. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I read about it. From what I read, it was pretty insane, the new

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread GMoney
My buddies were talking about it, i guess one of them saw it, said it was pretty messed up. Since this has happened on several occasions, networks have people who are supposed to be acting as censors, and they are supposed to immediately cut off the broadcast if they perceive the perp is about to

Re: No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I read about it. From what I read, it was pretty insane, the news reader and director wedre drooling over the violence from what I understand. But I could be just misreading it. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > I can't believe that we aren't already talking about this, w

No comments on the live TV shooting last Friday?

2012-10-02 Thread Ray Champagne
I can't believe that we aren't already talking about this, whether it is because of the obvious subject matter, or because it was Fox who broadcast it. Did anyone happen to see the actual footage before it was yanked from YouTube? I did, and it was pretty awful, but I've seen enough TV violence

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If you are a beached whale in, say, California, there's a good chance some nice hippies will come along and push you back into the water. If you com ashore in Indonesia, however, they will eat you: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/indonesia/9581537/Indonesian-islanders-eat-beached-

Martian warming

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http://www.foxnews.com/science/2012/10/02/weather-on-mars-surprisingly-warm-curiosity-rover-finds/ The inconvenient truth on Mars, is that this winter appears warmer since the Curiosity Rover landed their several weeks ago. We are now artificially warming TWO different planets! -- Some nights I

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Re: CFML Rates

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