> Begich isn't conceding yet, btw. There are still more votes to be
> counted and some irregularities to be investigated. I read that one
> precinct, for instance, showed almost no votes for either Begich or
> Stevens and showed all the votes for 2 independents. Likely some
> screwed up machines th
> OK, once again. I am not for shutting down welfare. I am for welfare
> reform so that
>
> 1. Families will not/cannot be on welfare from generation to generation.
> 2. Abuses will be fewer and further between (and more difficult).
This is already in place in every state I've lived in (four)
> My son voted for Obama in his school. I think the tally was something
> like 121 to 4. When we talked about it, the conversation went
> something like this:
> Me: Who'd you vote for?
> Him: Obamawait - that's the black guy, right?
> Me: Um, yah.
> Him: Yah, Obama. The other guy's the brown gu
> Your fellow Alaskans apparently just vote Republican.
>
> Look on the bright side. Stevens' seat prevents the Democratic Party from
> having a 60 seat filibuster-proof majority.
Is this a bright side?
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someone said palin cried. - is this true?
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>I felt kinda bad for him. He has wanted it for so long. However, I
> am much relieved that Ms.Hockey Mom is on her way back to the moose
> hunt.
I have mixed feelings about that obviously.
I'd love to pawn her off on someone else.
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they re-elected STEVENS? Two days after he was convicted??
WTF??
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we are anxiously awaiting to see if our corrupt representatives are going
DOWN but no DATA YET.
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> McCain just conceded. In a very gracious speech.
I actually really like the guy.
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>I don't understand why some people can't accept the fact that he lost fair
> and square. And he ended up being a sore loser at that. He has a Nobel and
> an Oscar. Isn't that good enough? What else does he need? If he thinks
> that
> he had a legitimate chance at winning, why does he not run agai
> Gore didn't lose. No matter how many times you say it, it won't make it
> true.
Maureen, I agree he didn't "give up" but I can't say Gore "didn't win"
either.
What exactly would you call that?
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> Other religions existed long before Christianity. I never said Christian
> beliefs, merely 'religious beliefs.
you know, before religion killing was probably bad also -i think religious
rules stem from social ones and not vice versa.
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> Personally I think that given that medical records are private, they
> should remain so, unless the person releases them. End of story.
I'm not sure they are even relevant enough to RELEASE
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> Here's something happy to focus on
>
> http://www.nazg.com/iqrai/index.php/2008/10/09/happiness-is-a-warm-puppy/
yeh, but it made me cry anyway
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> All red herrings. Obama is a socialist, finally McCain is saying it.
So everything mccain says is true?
We've been through this before- socialism isn't equivalent to "social
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>I think the idiot means Obama's father wasn't American, just went to
> school here. Nothing about race.
Well, its not racist but its disturbing. At what point do people get to be
considered "pure americans" ? Maybe the native americans should decide whose
a purebred american.
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>I am still trying to figure out where everyone gets this idea that those of
> us in the military are poor and liberal. When we received our absentee
> ballots last month, of about 100 soldiers in my company, maybe five voted
> democrat. And in the 12 years that I have been in the military, over
> Realistically, there are so many entrenched interests around income
> taxation
> - the IRS bureaucracy, accountants, lawyers, software companies - that it
> would be difficult if not impossible to eliminate income taxes. The
> government needs funds. Republicans look at taxes as a necessary evil
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> mmm, pecan yummy.
> I also like cherry, apple, mixed berry (has to be the right mix).
I don't care for cooked fruit in slime sauce.
> But my favorite of all time is frozen chocolate pie. It's chocolate, it's
> frozen, and it's a pie. Brilliant! My grandmother had a recipe for frozen
> cho
>I just really like pie.
>
What kind?
I love PECAN pie!
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> Oh you have to be joking! Now you're a full-fledged class warfare
> advocate?
> The top 1% already pays half of all taxes, in part because they make more,
> but also because we tax them at far higher rates than everyone else.
Thats not really true. The top 1% pay half of all taxes because they
> Lowering taxes creates a competitive incentive for people to work harder
> and
> earn more money.
Can you show a cite that proves this true? That if we increase taxes by 5%
people work significantly less hard?
Because I think you made it up.
> You mean he does not have a plumber's license. Do you have a software
> developer's license? You don't, because no such thing exists.
A journeyman plumber has to earn the title - it involves an apprenticeship
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> Taxes are a disincentive to work, but you have to look at comparative
> incentives/disincentives to understand why it matters. California is a
> very
> high tax state. A lot of people move out of California to places like
> Florida and New Hampshire because of the tax burden in California.
This
Judah,
I love you.
seriously.
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much would you "value" the party at - Holly and I estimate 175$ for
supplies and food and I want to add wine. How much would the package be
worth if we sold it?
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> They've been saying for months the anger and partisanship that Bush
> caused will end with Obama because he's a uniter.
So your issue with these people booing and giving the finger has to do with
the fact that Obama is called a uniter?
--> As I noted earlier, after reading the report (who else has read it?),
all I
> can see that she was called out for is allowing her husband to use a
> conference table in her office. That's it.
I'm wondering if you read the same report I did?
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Gel, thank goodness you found poor shadow!! Glad you are both safe.
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> The rest of you don't love America, don't love the constitution, don't
> want to be in this country, you want to make this country something it
> was never intended to be.
I don't think you know what america "was intended to be"
> I do not believe in the initiation of violence to foment political
> change. The being said if they come for guns, more taxes, if the new
> law enforcement orgs these people create want to play sometime, I and
> the people around me will defend ourselves.
So you are going to kill people to
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> The report actually found that her husband pushed to get Wooten fired, and
> the only thing they could actually find to draw this conclusion is that
> she
> did not stop him from doing that. That's really thin. Like watered-down
> cabbage soup.
Its been very clear from the beginning that Sarah
> Health care is an achievement of human society, not a fundamental human
> right. We should provide what we can for as many people as we can, but the
> second you call it a human right, you open the courts to endless human
> rights violations lawsuits over access. That is a guaranteed way to
> ba
he sounds like my kinda cat.
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:17 PM
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> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Beth wrote:
>
>> > What did I say? She declined to name any publications. Which is what
> What did I say? She declined to name any publications. Which is what she
> did.
if she was declining to name any publications, why didn't she just say so?
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> Great news. I got new job too. I'm really enjoying it.
its going to be a whole new set of dysfunctions, isn't it ?? hehe.
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I think they'd look worse removing her - unless they can talk her into
stepping down for personal reasons.
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> So just wonderin
> woot! Congrats on that Beth. When do you start your new job?
October 20th
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Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 6:46 PM
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> Nice view, huh? Commuting's a bitch, but it's VERY private and
> clearly the development possibilities are seemingl
Today i got a great job offer.
THANK FUCKING GOD
no longer do I have to deal with my lying, passive aggressive, lazy boss.
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never serve in office again. That's what you need to
tell them early and often.
If you're pissed, this is the time to step up and do something about it,
America! You can stop this! It's being railroaded down your throat, but you
can stop them if you call them in mass starting no
> Meanwhile, the Democrats have can't seem to learn how to manage
> expectations. They consistently over-promise and under-deliver.
At least they try.
Bush just lies.
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get anythign together myself and I'd love to be a part of such a great
project?
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> Does no one else have any sense of urgency about this problem? Holy shit,
> lay aside the political issues until this is resolved.
I think that some of us are curious how this wasn't a crisis a month ago and
all of a sudden its an emergency
~~~
> My wife's Aunt Hagar turns 112 in a couple of weeks. I thought she was
> born
> in 1897, but apparently it was 1896 toward the end of the year. My wife's
> going to her birthday party in Demopolis, Alabama. Watch for her on the
> Today show (again).
Alan, can I send a card to Aunt Hagar? I
i think this is what is known as a FRAP in dogs: A Frenetic Random Activity
Period.
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> http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/rally.asp
Not a chance!! Some clever signs in there
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> Fantastic
>
> /me joins the conga line
/me is laughing too hard to dance
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!
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> 1.The use of her Yahoo account has been known for some time
> 2. The New York Times already reported on it and never said it was
> illegal, which- well, let's face it- they would nail her to the wall
> since she is a Republican, if they could
I'm sure its not illegal.
For example at some point
Sarah Palin and staffers have stated that they used personal email because
it cannot be supeonaed.
There are lots of legal things that I think are immoral or unethical. This
is one of them.
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very glad mom is safe!!
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Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: new family members
> kavik the woof dog? :)
Kavik died last July. He'd eat them if he were here.
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> hmmm
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/us/politics/14palin.html
>
>
> Speak amongst yourselves...
its pretty typical small town politics here - thats what kind of politcian
she is.
I guess i want my political readers to be people who I can admire.
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chocolate:
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Lightning
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>> And from what I hear, she could NEVER move that fast in Jimmy Choos.
I doubt Palin has ever heard of Jimmy Choos.
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> Oh, and Palin has actually hunted and killed animals. Unlike the
> weenie liberal establishment Obama clan.
Is this something we look for in leadership? the ability to kill animals?
I find it weird that people who get pleasure from hunting and killing
humans are psychopaths but that people
> So now the Obama campaign is reduced to name-calling and cheap shots.
> My work here is done.
Does gruss work for the obama campaign?
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Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 7:00 PM
Subject: They grow up too quickly
> So Mike just looks up real quick from working at the computer, and I snap
> a
> quick photo:
>
>
>
> http://www.productivityen
Liberty is a great name for a pup born on 9-11.
She's lucky to have a family who considers her part of it.
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> Yeah, but we were just thinking outside the box having some fun building a
> bridge with tourism dollars. Perhaps it could be a rope bridge for foot
> traffic instead ;) Now that would be a challenge!
Would be a hell of a tourist attraction too!! I'd go there just to walk it!
~~~
Its possible. perrhaps they think i am menopausal.
> Your two old :)
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Beth Fleischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'll second this notion - I've been to PP and no one encouraged me to
>> have
>> sex. Or an abortion.
>> There were guys being seen too.
>>
>
>
yep , primary care for primary care problems is a big solution to our broken
health care system.
Many people without insurance will go to the ER for a cold because they know
they will be seen without asking for immediate payment. Other patients have
a mild issue that they could get primary care
th - I get this feeling sometimes that you're looking down yur nose
>> at
>> me right now - that I've said something to offend you in some way. Am I
>> reading too much between the lines here? Because if *I* have done
>> something
>> to rub *you* wrong - I'
The infamous bridge to nowhere.
So, if you ever fly into ketchikan airport, you can't go outside and walk
around the town of ketchikan, because you are out in the ocean on a tiny
island. You have to take a FERRY from the airport on Gravina Island to the
city of ketchikan. The bridge would be crea
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As Campaign Heats Up, Untruths Can Become Facts Before They're Undone
By Jonathan Weisman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 10, 2008; A01
>From the moment Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin declared tha
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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:49 PM
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> SUMMARY - She lied. Surprise!
> ---
> * It wasn't her idea; Alaska had been selling
How did Sarah Palin become a symbol of women's empowerment? And how did I, a
die-hard feminist, end up terrified at the idea of a woman in the White
House?
By Rebecca Traister
Sep. 11, 2008 | I have been dreaming about Sarah Palin. (Apparently, I'm not
alone.) I wish I could say that I'd been
> And don't scoff - I'm glad it's really easy for the majority of you to
> cast
> your allegiance to one side or the other, and maybe it's something so easy
> for you to see that I must be stupid because I don't - but I truly can't
> figure out which team is the best.
For some of us things like p
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ANCHORAGE, Sept. 8 -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312
nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging
a "per diem" allowance intended to
>I am actually listening to you you know. Yes Sam, Yes Robert, I am
> considering the source.
Me too.
I can't imagine Sarah Palin is that stupid. Or self loathing - her kids are
half native.
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> The last twenty years were very good economically. Low inflation, a
> couple of mild recessions, lots of growth, and today in industrialized
> nations, people have all sorts of benefits and conveniences that no
> one, even the super-rich, had twenty years ago. That doesn't sound bad
> to me. In f
Hartford Courant
September 7, 2008
A Family Values Exception For Pregnant Palin Daughter
Helen Ubiñas
September 7, 2008
I didn't get it; the way the young mothers refused to talk, how one lied
about the baby girl in the stroller not being hers, and why the teenage
couple who bluntly talke
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Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: Obama vs McCain - a pro/con list of sorts
> On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Gruss wrote:
>
>> Thus we've proven that the Republican
>> party, by it
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> On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Mary Jo wrote:
>> The fact is, that many of us accept and are willing to de
> Pretty much.
>
> Thomas Paine said, "Government, even in its best state, is but a
> necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."
>
> Taxes are the oxygen of government. Why should we allow government
> more oxygen, when the net effects are inevitably destructive?
Maybe you ought to
> This country is going to become poorer largely because we are
> transferring our wealth at an alarming rate from people who work to
> people who don't through Social Security and Medicare. Until these two
> programs are addressed, nothing is going to make a difference to the
> long-term prospects
> Apparently all rational thinking about economics has gone out the
> window on this list. Lower taxes are good for the economy, good for
> everyone who participates in the economy. Higher taxes are bad for the
> economy, bad for everyone who participates in the economy. That is not
> an "I" issue,
> no, I really don't actually. Strip out the emotional language from
> your argument, and essentially we have spent all these billions to
> remove Saddam Hussein, destroy the infrastructure, and put someone
> else in power. I grant you that Saddam killed some Iraqis. And so have
> the people curren
> Again with the emotional arguments.
This isn't an emotional argument. Someone here said that people who make
250,000 a year work VERY HARD to make it. i'll argue that some of the
richest people in the country don't work hard at all.
> No, I don't think really rich people necessarily work har
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>> Beth wrote:
>> I haven 't noticed that people who make more than 250,000 per year work
>> any
>> harder than
> It's Robin Hood economics. Steal for the rich and give to the poor.
> We know that tax breaks work and that's why the 2001 recession was so
> short. If we penalize the wealthy they won't take the risks.
"stealing " and taxation are a little different in my mind and thats a very
inflammatory te
And what about the working poor in America - we have a whole new set of hard
working people who simply cannot afford healthcare if they want to eat?
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> Iraq is an investment, not a giveaway. We are buying freedom for the
> people of Iraq and security for ourselves with our investment.
wow, this is great propaganda. I dont' buy it but maybe you should be a
campaign manager.
~~~
> That is old-school, command and control socialism. Obama is pursuing a
> policy of new-school soft socialism, but debating semantics just
> dodges the issue: Obama will take huge amounts of money from people
> who work very hard and give it to people who don't necessarily do
> anything.
So you t
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So my very republican coworker - our Government Affairs Director - and my
very close friend - and I were discussing Sarah Palins nomination.
She said that years ago, when Sarah was running for Mayor of Wasilla,
Shelley (friend -she happens to live in Wasilla!) went to go see her speak
and was s
> I don't think part of my point is getting across here-- it's not about
> "mommy" being around, it's about "parents" being around.
>
> This is probably even "truer" for men than for women. Did my Cat's in
> the cradle, and a silver spoon reference not mean squat? The
> reference to the movie abo
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> I'd be interested in the link if you have it handy. Meanwhile I have
> spent enough time on the soaps for today and need to get some work
> done :)
>
> On Tue, S
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> I'd be interested in the link if you have it handy. Meanwhile I have
> spent enough time on the soaps for today and need to get some work
> done :)
its in the archived ADN - gotta pay to read - search monegan tasered
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Below from a friend, phrases exactly what concerns me about the Palins.
"If what I read is right -- and, of course, with all the crap out there, it
may not be -- while Sarah Palin was living in Juneau as governor (with the
new baby), the rest of the family remained in Wasilla. But dad Todd had a
> I wonder if the same people who've been beating the
> guilt-by-association drum for Obama suddenly change to agree with us
> or if they go quiet ... or if they admit they were wrong.
>
> HA! Just kidding. That last one was hilarious.
It was funny BUT you know what - we need to be bigger
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