Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-03-03 Thread G Money
Amen, +1000 to Duane's post. I'm in an identical situation here. Two very different, very good languages.there is no sense in dismissing either one. Much better to learn as much as you can about both and apply them where they make the most sense. On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Duane [EMAIL

RE: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-03-03 Thread Duane
(not advocating it as I don't know James' situation), I really don't think you will regret it. Duane -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 4:34 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: ASP.net as a new language. I code in both CF and .Net

RE: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-03-03 Thread Adam Churvis
From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Amen, +1000 to Duane's post. I'm in an identical situation here. I was just about to reply with Amen when I saw your post. And it goes a lot deeper than that on our side. The business-wide solutions you can create using the entire .NET stack are

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-03-03 Thread Bruce Sorge
And let's not forget another important fact. Knowing multiple languages makes you more marketable which means better employment opportunities. G Money wrote: Amen, +1000 to Duane's post. I'm in an identical situation here. Two very different, very good languages.there is no sense in

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-03-03 Thread Vivec
I'll learn D when Microsoft releases it. It,and its development environment,will bury .Net and all their other languages. On 03/03/2008, Bruce Sorge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And let's not forget another important fact. Knowing multiple languages makes you more marketable which means better

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-03-02 Thread Maureen
I code in both CF and .Net - there iare no one to one equivalences. It takes about 4 to 5 times as long to do a task .net as it does in CF. ..Net programmers are going to cost you more per hour than CF programmers with equivelent experience and will take many more hours to get the work done.

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-03-02 Thread Robert Munn
Forget about .NET. Get some coders who know other languages and train them in CF development. Anyone who know OOP and scripting can learn enough CF in a few weeks to be productive. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 8:30 AM, James Smith wrote: We are having trouble finding CF coders in our area so are

ASP.net as a new language.

2008-02-28 Thread James Smith
We are having trouble finding CF coders in our area so are thinking about employing .net instead and moving across. I have spent the last 24 hours pulling my hair out trying to do the simplest tasks in .net and am getting nowhere, as far as I can tell it is a great language for complex

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-02-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:30 AM, James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are having trouble finding CF coders in our area so are thinking about employing .net instead and moving across. I have spent the last 24 hours pulling my hair out trying to do the simplest tasks in .net and am getting

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-02-28 Thread Crow T. Robot
It's a shame that you have to base your choice of a platform on worker availability instead of on technical considerations for the app. It is a real shame, but there seems to be a real shortage out there right now. We've got about 3 positions we could fill *right now* but can't even get a

RE: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-02-28 Thread Duane
list you are on is usually pretty good too. HTH, Duane -Original Message- From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:31 PM To: CF-Community Subject: ASP.net as a new language. We are having trouble finding CF coders in our area so are thinking

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-02-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a real shame, but there seems to be a real shortage out there right now. We've got about 3 positions we could fill *right now* but can't even get a decent applicant. Only one senior position , the other two

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-02-28 Thread Greg Morphis
There's always the option of hiring telecommuters.. may not be in your area but if you're comfortable with it, it'd open up a lot of choice for you. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:08 AM, G Money [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Crow T. Robot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-02-28 Thread Crow T. Robot
Sadly, I do think the CF is dying thing is catching on... It's like trying to sell your house On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:54 AM, G Money [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:30 AM, James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are having trouble finding CF coders in our area so are

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-02-28 Thread morgan l
As someone who went through a dry spell of being able to find work a few years back, I have to wonder if it's not for some of the same reasons you can't find any 'decent' applicants: maybe what you're looking for in 'decent' is just a touch too stringent. There is the possibility that someone out

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-02-28 Thread Crow T. Robot
Yea, we have several telecommuters working around the country (literally) and some dev firm in Belarus (blech). While they work out for the most part, they are too expensive to keep on long-term and not being able to be in the office at least once every couple weeks is quite a hindrance. On

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-02-28 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
My coworker is from Belarus. Bah! I feel for you having to work with them. I have another coworker from Moscow and when I asked him why Aleksandr acted the way he does he said to me, Do you know that movie that has the banjo playing and the people without teeth and they have sex with

Re: ASP.net as a new language.

2008-02-28 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
That is interesting. I had no idea there was a CF labor shortage out there. I've been hearing this a lot actually. Even just finding good experienced freelancers in CF seems to be getting harder, let alone finding good fulltime applicants. You think people are starting to buy into the CF is