Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Deanna Schneider
It's not actually the regulators - the company pulled the ad out of fear of upsetting people. It's more the overall social climate that sucks right now. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:44:14 +1000, Jon Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My ghawd... That is a great ad. WTF is wrong with it? Sure the

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Paul Ihrig
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Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Phill B
I cant view it either. Some one help a brutha out. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:34:01 -0500, Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could some one please post an alt link to it? streaming media is filterd thanks ~| Get

RE: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Ken Ketsdever
. -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 6:54 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day Damn sensors! The ad is hysterical!!! Bah. The article: http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/26/news/fortune500

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Phill B
Here is a temporary link to it. Grab it while you can cause it wont be there for long. http://209.35.190.99/bud/wardrobe_malfunction_600k.wmv -- Phillip B. ~| Purchase Studio MX from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Gruss Gott
Erika wrote: Damn sensors! The ad is hysterical!!! Bah. Great ad!! Speaking of the Superbowl, however, this is the first I've heard of it this year! I was sharing this with some others who told me the game is this weekend? I know I don't get out much, but nobody seems too interested this

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread G
Hmmm, you must not watch the same TV I watch. Granted, my TV stays pretty much glued to ESPN this time of year. I'm so sick of hearing about T.O.'s availability for the Super Bowl, I turn it off when they start talking about that jerk. As for hype, I heard that the Pats are an early 7 point

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Gruss Gott
Brian wrote: Hmmm, you must not watch the same TV I watch. Granted, my TV stays pretty much glued to ESPN this time of year. Well, we don't have cable at our house, and I only watch news, a few reality shows, and Desperate Housewives. I couldn't even tell you who's playing! And now that I

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread G
How does one suddenly go from a huge football fan to...no cable and watching desperate housewives??? Keep drinking?? Please tell me, so I can avoid your fate :) Well, we don't have cable at our house, and I only watch news, a few reality shows, and Desperate Housewives. I couldn't

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Sam
So sad, no Fox news :) Gruss Gott wrote: Well, we don't have cable at our house, and I only watch news, a few reality shows, and Desperate Housewives. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support

RE: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Ken Ketsdever
No Fox News. That's about as sad as no hemoroids -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 9:17 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day So sad, no Fox news :) Gruss Gott wrote: Well, we don't have cable at our

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Jerry Johnson
You forgot the smiley, I think. I rarely hear Fox and subtle in the same sentence. Jerry Johnson Web Developer Dolan Media Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/01/05 12:32PM Is FOX's subtle lean to the right so much more atrocious than every other news networks subtle lean to the left???

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Charlie Griefer
-Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 9:17 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day So sad, no Fox news :) Gruss Gott wrote: Well, we don't have cable at our house, and I only watch news, a few reality

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Howie Hamlin
FOXNews leaning to the right is about as subtle as a sledgehammer to your skull... g --- On Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:32 PM, G scribed: --- Is FOX's subtle lean to the right so much more atrocious than every other news networks subtle lean to the left???

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread G
Bah... From your perch on the left, i'm sure FOX's lean to the right seems extreme. From Sam's perch, i'm sure CNN's lean to the left seems just as extreme. From the middle, they both seem equally annoying. You forgot the smiley, I think. I rarely hear Fox and subtle in the same

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread G
If you're far left, yep. FOXNews leaning to the right is about as subtle as a sledgehammer to your skull... g --- On Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:32 PM, G scribed: --- Is FOX's subtle lean to the right so much more atrocious than every other news networks subtle lean to the left???

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread G
-Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 9:17 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day So sad, no Fox news :) Gruss Gott wrote: Well, we don't have cable at our house, and I only watch news, a few reality

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Sam
Heraldo Rivera and Greta Van Susteren balance out Tony Snow and Bill O'Reilly Alan Combs balances Sean Hannity. Sounds fair to me :) On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 Charlie Griefer wrote: when they call themselves fair and balanced it is :)

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Howie Hamlin
I consider myself moderate but that's just me... --- On Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:44 PM, G scribed: --- If you're far left, yep. FOXNews leaning to the right is about as subtle as a sledgehammer to your skull... g --- On Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:32 PM, G scribed: ---

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread G
Im not really sure what moderate means. Is that like a conservative that agrees with some liberal doctrine, and/or a liberal that agrees with some conservative doctrine? Or is it a mode of thought all it's own? I consider myself moderate but that's just me... --- On Tuesday, February 01,

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Sam
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 G wrote: From your perch on the left, i'm sure FOX's lean to the right seems extreme. From Sam's perch, i'm sure CNN's lean to the left seems just as extreme. That reminds me, did they throw Ted Turner in the looney bin yet? Talk about extremes :)

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Howie Hamlin
For me, personally, it means having a mind of my own. --- On Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:54 PM, G scribed: --- Im not really sure what moderate means. Is that like a conservative that agrees with some liberal doctrine, and/or a liberal that agrees with some conservative doctrine? Or is it a

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Sam
It means everyone else is an extremist. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:54:03 -0600, G wrote: Im not really sure what moderate means. Is that like a conservative that agrees with some liberal doctrine, and/or a liberal that agrees with some conservative doctrine? Or is it a mode of thought all it's

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Howie Hamlin
Exactly - you're either with us or you're with the terrorists --- On Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:00 PM, Sam scribed: --- It means everyone else is an extremist. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:54:03 -0600, G wrote: Im not really sure what moderate means. Is that like a conservative that agrees

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread G
What about people who have a mind of their own, yet all their conclusions are extremely far to the right or the left? Surely they cannot be considered moderates. I guess i'd quantify your definition by saying having a LOGICAL mind of your own. The assumption being that there will be ideas of

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Paul Ihrig
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Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Howie Hamlin
There are ideas on both sides that are worthy of consideration. But, to be clear - I am a registered Democrat and I really have problems with the way that the current administration is operating. If, for example, someone like John McCain was president then I believe that we'd be in much

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Gruss Gott
Brian wrote: Is FOX's subtle lean to the right so much more atrocious than every other news networks subtle lean to the left??? I think we should all stop ghettoizing ourselves into left and right since, IMO, there isn't any such thing. That's an invention by the media industry to get

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Sam
CNN was founded in 1988 and was the only 24-hour news show in the US for many years. It was always very biased, still is. Around 1987 Rush started his radio career. Now you claim Rush made it us vs. them but it was the legacy media that did it. Rush came out representing the conservatives that had

RE: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Ken Ketsdever
not to air on SuperBowl day Exactly - you're either with us or you're with the terrorists --- On Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:00 PM, Sam scribed: --- It means everyone else is an extremist. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:54:03 -0600, G wrote: Im not really sure what moderate means. Is that like

RE: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Geraldo Rivera balances out Bozo the Clown. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 9:49 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day Heraldo Rivera and Greta Van Susteren balance out Tony Snow and Bill O'Reilly Alan

RE: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Ken Ketsdever
We have an american population that politicians and news services want us to think is polarized into to camps (left and right) I think the vast majority have far more in common than they do that separate their views. American media and politicians live on teh use against them. If the scale

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Jim Campbell
Not to fan the flames, but from what I've seen of their show, Alan Colmes balances a coma patient, and even then, I'd put my money on the guy on life support. I suppose, though, if you put an equally unrepentant bullshitter against Hannity, you'd just end up with Fox Crossfire, so I suppose

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Howie Hamlin
What's kind of ironic is that Geraldo was a very good investigative reporter when he first started out. He did a famous expose of a local NY mental institution that was highly acclaimed. However, that was then and this is now :) --- On Tuesday, February 01, 2005 3:22 PM, Ken Ketsdever

RE: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Michael Dinowitz
What I find ironic is that a thread about a Superbowl ad has changed over a few times to a this and the subject has not changed once. (my subtle way of suggesting a subject change when the topic of conversation changes. What's kind of ironic is that Geraldo was a very good investigative

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: CNN was founded in 1988 and was the only 24-hour news show in the US for many years. It was always very biased, still is. Around 1987 Rush started his radio career. Now you claim Rush made it us vs. them but it was the legacy media that did it. Rush came out representing the

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Sam
Didn't he spend eight years defending Clinton and attacking everyone else? He's definitely not conservative. I do think Fox uses wacky liberals to make them all look bad. But I haven't fallen for that. I know most liberals aren't nuts :) On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:37:11 -0500, Howie Hamlin wrote:

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Sam
I thought when we got to the true meaning of the thread, Bush will cause the world to end because he's evil, we would change the subject. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:50:27 -0500, Michael Dinowitz wrote: What I find ironic is that a thread about a Superbowl ad has changed over a few times to a this

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Howie Hamlin
Who was talking politics? Do you turn every statement into something political? --- On Tuesday, February 01, 2005 4:00 PM, Sam scribed: --- Didn't he spend eight years defending Clinton and attacking everyone else? He's definitely not conservative. I do think Fox uses wacky liberals to

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Sam
I assumed you were. Maybe you were referring to cameraman's one short leg? Howie Hamlin Wrote: FOXNews leaning to the right is about as subtle as a sledgehammer to your skull... g Howie Hamlin wrote: Who was talking politics? Do you turn every statement into something political?

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Gruss Gott
Jim wrote: Not to fan the flames, but from what I've seen of their show, Alan Colmes balances a coma patient, and even then, I'd put my money on the guy on life support. I suppose, though, if you put an equally unrepentant bullshitter against Hannity, you'd just end up with Fox Crossfire, so

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Howie Hamlin
You replied to my comments about Geraldo...not the text below. Thanks for playing... --- On Tuesday, February 01, 2005 4:24 PM, Sam scribed: --- I assumed you were. Maybe you were referring to cameraman's one short leg? Howie Hamlin Wrote: FOXNews leaning to the right is about as subtle

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Dana
Compelling news that they care to cover... for instance I have seen zero coverage of roadless wilderness or drilling on the North Slope and these are issues that would affect the state. Discussion of oil rigs on Otero Mesa is confined to whether the place is as pretty as environmentalists say it

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Jon Austin
Outfoxed (http://www.outfoxed.org/) aired on our national public service (ABC, equivalent of your PBS I guess) last night. I have to say, I am shocked and amazed by the bias of Fox News. Is there no governmental regulation? Oh wait... stupid question. If I saw Bill O'Riley on the street, I would

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Sam
You changed the subject from politics to the Geraldo and figured I would know you were referring only to the non-political Geraldo? And then get upset when I mention how politically biased he was for eight years while we're talking about Fox being biased during a discussion about the superbowl.

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Sam
Can't believe you fell for that. They Report, They Decide An anti-Fox News documentary shows a little bias of its own. http://www.opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110005362 Tilting at the Right, Leaning to the Left Robert Greenwald's 'Outfoxed' Has Its Own Slant on Balance By Howard Kurtz

RE: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Ken Ketsdever
cfinterchangeable primary=Bill O'Riley replacement=Rush Limpdick -Original Message- From: Jon Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 3:22 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day Outfoxed (http://www.outfoxed.org/) aired on our national

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread David Lakein
In that case, about half the threads would wind up merged into one gigantic media bias thread that keeps getting resurrected. (Maybe not such a bad idea...) On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:50:27 -0500, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I find ironic is that a thread about a Superbowl ad has

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Jon Austin
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:46:48 -0800, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't believe you fell for that. OK, keeping in mind: a) I'm Australian and have only watched Fox News probably 2-3 hours in my life. b) One of the reports quoted, seems to be indicative of the overall picture presented by

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Howie Hamlin
I replied to someone elses's comments about Geraldo. --- On Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:22 PM, Sam scribed: --- You changed the subject from politics to the Geraldo and figured I would know you were referring only to the non-political Geraldo? And then get upset when I mention how

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I was going to say that FOXNews leaning to the right is about as subtle as electrodes on your testes. Pardon that's the new Attorney General. larry On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:36:57 -0500, Howie Hamlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FOXNews leaning to the right is about as subtle as a sledgehammer to your

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
It also depends on where you are. In Canada for instance I'm considered a moderate to slightly right of center, while in some EU countries I'm definately on the Tory side of things. larry On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:54:03 -0600, G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im not really sure what moderate means. Is

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-02-01 Thread Dana
ya I was pondering that when we had the political quizzes I scored pretty left-wing on one of them because I saw nothing wrong with a bilingual society :) Which might get you hung as a fellow traveller in Arizona but is downright conservative i you're from Quebec, lol. Dana On Tue, 1 Feb 2005

Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-01-31 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Damn sensors! The ad is hysterical!!! Bah. The article: http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/26/news/fortune500/budweiser_super_bowl_ad/ index.htm The Ad http://www.budweiser.com/wardrobe_malfunction.html Cheers, Erika ~| Sams Teach

Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-01-31 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Damn sensors! The ad is hysterical!!! Bah. The article: http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/26/news/fortune500/budweiser_super_bowl_ad/ index.htm The Ad http://www.budweiser.com/wardrobe_malfunction.html Cheers, Erika ~|

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-01-31 Thread Adam Haskell
THat is a great ad. And the FCC sucks... On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:54:08 -0500, Erika L. Walker-Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn sensors! The ad is hysterical!!! Bah. The article: http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/26/news/fortune500/budweiser_super_bowl_ad/ index.htm The Ad

Re: Ad not to air on SuperBowl day

2005-01-31 Thread Jon Austin
My ghawd... That is a great ad. WTF is wrong with it? Sure the context of what happened last year: The (partial) tit shot of the year.., but I mean C'MON! Have a sense of humor. I'm guessing the regulator in the USA is a panel of crusty old bastards.. On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:25:52 -0800, Adam