Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
I've grown used to the Larry insults, to a point where I expect them. -sm --- Chris Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > > I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. > if you go for > > personal  insults that's your thing. > > > And it very well might be my thing.

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread William Bowen
But barring giving each respondent an IQ test, it seems a fairly good litmus... -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Jim Campbell
Equating a college graduate with intelligence isn't always the best way to go.  I don't have a degree and I are very the smart yes.  Now, where did I put my lottery tickets? - Jim Jerry Johnson wrote: >Not really, Larry. > >The percentages might be higher with Daily Show viewers, but what abou

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Chris Stoner
Larry C. Lyons wrote: > I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. if you go for > personal  insults that's your thing. > And it very well might be my thing.  I'm just trying to point out that based on your declaration of Sam's inability to deal with declarative statements, it's apparently

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
ROTFL! - Original Message - From: Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:26:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You're right. It appears that a self-selecting group of younger, intelligent people

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. if you go for personal  insults that's your thing. On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:01:26 -0400, Chris Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > pom·pous  adj.  Characterized by excessive self-esteem or exaggerated > dignity; > > I would characterize your statemen

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Chris Stoner
pom·pous  adj.  Characterized by excessive self-esteem or exaggerated dignity; I would characterize your statement about Sam's supossed 'problem(s) with declarative sentances' as being quite pompous.  Thats not an insult, its what it was (IMO).  Is it ok for you to speak (write) in an insultin

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I would suggest that being obnoxious is not the way to go either. Quit with the insults. On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 14:07:48 -0400, Chris Stoner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually it doesn't.  This declarative sentence states that a higher > ratio of Stewart listeners completed four years of college w

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No its a matter of proportions. 8 of 10 vs 6 of 10. A simple test of proportions will return a statistically significant chi square showing that the difference in proportions is not likely due to chance. larry On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:01:13 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The N

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
--- William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hope you're not one of the 20% of Daily show > viewers > > that thinks it's a real news show. > > Neither am I one of the percent of O'Reilly viewers > that believes his > is a news show too... ;-) > > Where did the 20% figure come from? I went

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Ray Champagne
But my wife listens to me spout off about political stuff every night (and sometimes I am even humorous!).  That means that I could claim 100% of my viewing audience has a 4 year college degree.  So percentages really don't matter... Ray At 02:11 PM 9/30/2004, you wrote: >Even if you take thos

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread William Bowen
Even if you take those numbers, which I assume are for example only, you still have a higher percentage of total viewership with 4 years of college watching the Daily Show. -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher [Todays T

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Jerry Johnson
Not really, Larry. The percentages might be higher with Daily Show viewers, but what about the actual people totals. If the Factor's pop is larger, he may have more college grads total than the Daily Show has. Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/04 01:52PM >>> Are you sure about that? You

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Chris Stoner
Actually it doesn't.  This declarative sentence states that a higher ratio of Stewart listeners completed four years of college which does not mean the same thing as 'there are more four year graduates viewing Stewarts show'.  There is not enough evidence in this particular sentence to determin

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
The Nielson report has no details. The way I read this is: If Stewart has 40,000 viewers and 80% have four year degrees and O'Reilly has 2 million viewers and 60% have four year degrees than viewers of the Daily show are more likely to have four year degrees. Since I don't have the details I was

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread William Bowen
> I hope you're not one of the 20% of Daily show viewers > that thinks it's a real news show. Neither am I one of the percent of O'Reilly viewers that believes his is a news show too... ;-) Where did the 20% figure come from? I went back and re-read the article and didn't see that. Oddly enough

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Are you sure about that? You seem to  have a problem with declarative sentances. "Viewers of Jon Stewart's show are more likely to have completed four years of college than people who watch "The O'Reilly Factor," according to Nielsen Media Research." More likely means that there are more viewers

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread William Bowen
> If you're  going to put it that way... > I bet there are more people with four year degrees > that watch O'Reilly than Stewart. But you see that is not what the data shows, which was the point of the article. you did read the article, no? The data points out that people with four years of coll

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
--- William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And who > says having four years of college makes you less > likely to partake in the occasional blunt? > > It doesn't, but... > Four years of college does tend to make one more > educated, better > read, better suited to discern logical arguments,

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
If you're  going to put it that way... I bet there are more people with four year degrees that watch O'Reilly than Stewart. It's the fact that O'Reilly is so successful he gets a larger variety. Are you saying that if you don't have a four year degree your an idiot? -sm --- Kevin Graeme <[EMAI

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread William Bowen
Also lets look at the size of the audiences? What, O'Reilly's audience is bigger, so naturally we should expect it to be less educated? And who says having four years of college makes you less likely to partake in the occasional blunt? It doesn't, but... Four years of college does tend to make

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
You're right. It appears that a self-selecting group of younger, intelligent people watch Stewart while a great number of idiots of all ages flock to O'Reilly! ;-p -Kevin On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:14:48 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also lets look at the size of the audiences

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Sam Morris
Also lets look at the size of the audiences? And who says having four years of college makes you less likely to partake in the occasional blunt? I believe it’s all about the age group, Stewart’s audience is mainly 18 to 25 while O’Reilly’s is all over the place Again, I’m not a big O’Reilly fan

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Jim Campbell
a GSBer or a UChicago alum? > > >- Original Message - >From: Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:11:36 -0500 >Subject: Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hey, don't call O'Reilly a M

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Gruss Gott
Are you a GSBer or a UChicago alum? - Original Message - From: Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:11:36 -0500 Subject: Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hey, don't call O'Reilly a Maroon - that i

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Jim Campbell
Hey, don't call O'Reilly a Maroon - that implies he's a University of Chicago alumnus, and I wouldn't give him that much credit :) - Jim Kevin Graeme wrote: >Yeah, I laughed my ass off when I read that. And O'Reilly tries to >pawn it off as a joke. What a maroon. > >-Kevin > > >On Thu, 30 Sep 2

Re: Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Kevin Graeme
Yeah, I laughed my ass off when I read that. And O'Reilly tries to pawn it off as a joke. What a maroon. -Kevin On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:48:21 -0400, Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This guy is so pompous that it's scary... > > 'Stoned slackers' watch Jon Stewart? > > Bill O'Reilly's vi

Bill O'Reilly, wrong again

2004-09-30 Thread Howie Hamlin
This guy is so pompous that it's scary... 'Stoned slackers' watch Jon Stewart? Bill O'Reilly's viewers are actually less educated than Stewart's The Associated Press Updated: 1:45 p.m. ET Sept. 28, 2004 NEW YORK - The folks at Comedy Central were annoyed when Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly k