Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-08 Thread William Bowen
> mine's natural gasnot sure about the oil. BTW, got the second check on > July 1.it ended up being more per acre than the firstC'mon natural > gaskeep going up in price! :) ah... wow. keep up the good work? :-P > On a related note, one of my coworkers didn't understand why we ju

Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-08 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
mine's natural gasnot sure about the oil. BTW, got the second check on July 1.it ended up being more per acre than the firstC'mon natural gaskeep going up in price! :) On a related note, one of my coworkers didn't understand why we just didn't go to home depot and rent a pump and

Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-08 Thread Maureen
Not hard, but dirty. Still, much cheaper than current price per barrel for crude. Which is why it is being blasted as not viable. More spin by the greed squad. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yeah but oil in shale is pretty hard to get out, right?

Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-08 Thread William Bowen
> yeah but oil in shale is pretty hard to get out, right? ask Zaph... -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the m

Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-08 Thread Dana
yeah but oil in shale is pretty hard to get out, right? On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:35 AM, denstar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Time will tell if the theory follows or not. > > Eventually. > > With things like closed counsels and misinformation, it might take a while. > > That's why I like transparen

Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-08 Thread denstar
Time will tell if the theory follows or not. Eventually. With things like closed counsels and misinformation, it might take a while. That's why I like transparency in government, which any Bush support must, by definition, not. (But they're not neo-cons, lets be clear here! :-)) There's plent

Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > 1989 $18.33 $31.75 1990 $23.19 $38.02 1991 $20.20 $31.86 1992 $19.25 > $29.47 > Okee doke, now let's see them for Bush II. Don't forget to include the world demand increase numbers too so we can put to rest that fairy tale too. I used to work in the airlines aligned w

Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-07 Thread Robert Munn
Sorry, that theory just doesn't follow. Here are crude oil prices 1989-1992 during Bush I. The left price is real dollars, the right price is inflation adjusted for 2007 dollars: 1989 $18.33 $31.75 1990 $23.19 $38.02 1991 $20.20 $31.86 1992 $19.25 $29.47 On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:01 PM,

Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-07 Thread denstar
It's coincidence, I tells ya! Unethical energy folks come into power, and energy prices go up... yup. Total coincidence. If you go for that sorta thing. -- I like synchronicity, personally ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software

Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-06 Thread Robert Munn
The Saudis are not pumping more oil because they can't. That is the dirty secret that no one wants to reveal. They are very close to max capacity. New discoveries in Brazil, etc. are not going to come online fast enough to make any difference in the short term. The only way we can make a dent in t

Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > You so desperately want to blame this all on Bush, huh? > If demand increases (as you accurately point out), yes price will go up. But Regan and the Bush family set a policy of upping supply to offset demand increases via their positions in the oil industry and their personal an

Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-06 Thread Robert Munn
You so desperately want to blame this all on Bush, huh? 1. Speculation in the market is all about supply and demand. Demand is growing and no one think supply will keep up. That equals higher prices. Fears about demand disruption center around Iran, not Iraq. Bush has deferred to Europe on the Ira

Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > The irony is that bin Laden didn't have to do anything to get oil to > $140/barrel. Demand from Asia has done that. There are 4 things here: futures market (cost of oil), supply, demand, refining capacity (1.) futures market - Bin Laden has had a disastrous effect here if you at

Re: Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-05 Thread Robert Munn
The irony is that bin Laden didn't have to do anything to get oil to $140/barrel. Demand from Asia has done that. Of course, if bin Laden had actually succeeded in his stated goal of destroying America, the market for oil would have totally crashed. So our success, rather than his, has made his dem

Bin Laden: Mission Accomplished

2008-07-05 Thread Gruss Gott
In a 1998 interview, Osama bin Laden — the terrorist organizer of 9/11 who still roams free — listed as one of his many grievances against the U.S. that Americans "have stolen $36 trillion from Muslims" by purchasing oil from Persian Gulf countries at low prices. The real price of a barrel of oil s