re very prolife, should they
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> have to stop? Should Muslims be disallowed from commenting on our defense
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> policies because of overlap?
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> Tim
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> -Original Message-
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> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tim,
They can comment all they want, they can get involved in politics all they want.
They just can't get involved in politics and keep their status as a tax-exempt non-profit.
Jerry Johnson
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/04/04 02:02PM >>>
How is that unconstitutional? Hell the revolution was carrie
Ah.
My experience in synagogues is that there is no real political talk/endorsement in the synagogue. Most of that is done in newspapers, where you certainly can't say it's unconstitutional.
A newspaper might endorse a specific candidate.
In the Jewish community, I've seen city council members a
m: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 10:44 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Bush Campaign Seeks Help From Church Congregations
I was thinking more in terms of endorsing candidates and by
implication candidates endorsing a particular religious viewpoint.
l
I was thinking more in terms of endorsing candidates and by
implication candidates endorsing a particular religious viewpoint.
larry
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 03:04:59 -0400, Judith Dinowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Larry, it may violate the church's tax-exempt status, but how is trying to fund-rais
Larry, it may violate the church's tax-exempt status, but how is trying to fund-raise in a church against the constitution?
Please explain this.
Judith
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> We're talking about the current campaign. In case its difficult for
> you to read, the date on the article was o
An interesting literate Catholic take on this
http://www.alibi.com/editorial/section_display.php?di=2004-07-01&scn=news#8548
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From: Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 15:56:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Bush Campaign Seeks Help From Church Congre
- Original Message -
--- Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do not recall ever hearing of seditious actions of
> church bishops actually advocating the denying of
>church sacraments unless the faithful voted a certain
>way.
How did Bush get blamed for this?
These peo
It hasn't happened recently, at least since vatican II, but at one time
congregations (Catholic) were regularly instructed on how to place their
vote.
> I do not recall any president who did not appear in church during
> campaigns or
> while in office.
>
> That said, I do not remember ever in U
--- Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do not recall ever hearing of seditious actions of
> church bishops actually advocating the denying of
>church sacraments unless the faithful voted a certain
>way.
How did Bush get blamed for this?
These people publicly speak out against church policy
I do not recall any president who did not appear in church during campaigns or
while in office.
That said, I do not remember ever in U.S. history where a candidate for
re-election asked the church leadership for assistance in his campaign. I do
not recall ever hearing of seditious actions of chur
he who smelt it dealt it.;-)
-Original Message-
From: John Purugganan
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 1:30 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Bush Campaign Seeks Help From Church Congregations
Sounds communistic to me.
-Original Message-
From: John Stanley
Sent: Friday, July 02
They do it all of the time.
The Black Church is a very well-used target for politicians.
On those Sundays, I stay home.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 1:30 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Bush Campaign Seeks Help From
And that's perfectly appropriate. The point is not that they go to a
church. Anybody can. The legal wrangle is when the church supports or
gives preferential treatment to a particular candidate.
-Kevin
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:20:16 -0400, Monique Boea
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Clinto also wen
Sounds communistic to me.
-Original Message-
From: John Stanley
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 1:27 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Bush Campaign Seeks Help From Church Congregations
Yeah, I have a problem with this as well. These religious people scare me,
and I dont like to be scared. I
Campaign Seeks Help From Church Congregations
Clinto also went to a lot of churches while he was campaining.
-Original Message-
From: John Purugganan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 11:29 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Bush Campaign Seeks Help From Church
There are laws against non-profits support political figures, but I don't
know the extent of the law.
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From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 11:42 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Bush Campaign Seeks Help From Church Congrega
Clinto also went to a lot of churches while he was campaining.
-Original Message-
From: John Purugganan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 11:29 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Bush Campaign Seeks Help From Church Congregations
As far as I can remember, Al Gore was
;get over it").
Jim Davis
From: John Purugganan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 11:29 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Bush Campaign Seeks Help From Church Congregations
As far as I can remember, Al Gore was shown on TV "In a church" signing with
the choir, whe
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=123922,00.html
Under the law, organizations described in section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code that are exempt from federal income tax are prohibited from directly or indirectly participating or intervening in any political campaign on behalf of,
Regardless, it does violate their tax exempt status. Even though the
republicans have tried to change that recently. Fortunately that
effort was tabled in committee.
larry
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 11:35:38 -0400, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't think it's illegal. The state may not e
Get over it? If it is a violation of election laws, and of a church's tax-exempt status, then NO!
Singing in church is a world different from having a church use its tax-exempt dollars to play a role in elections.
Do you actually think the two are similar?
The churches have a clear choice:
They
, Al Gore was shown on TV "In a church" signing with
> the choir, when he was running for president. Get over it.
>
> John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 11:15 AM
> To: CF-C
I don't think it's illegal. The state may not endorse a specific
religion, but there's nothing illegal AFAIK about religions endorsing a
specific state.
--BenD
Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> Anyone notice that the Bush campaign is trying to get church
> membership lists and encouraging them to vote
h Campaign Seeks Help From Church Congregations
Anyone notice that the Bush campaign is trying to get church
membership lists and encouraging them to vote for the Shrub. According
to a report today on the Dianne Reame show on NPR, apparently the
reelection campaign has also contacted the Vatican to e
Anyone notice that the Bush campaign is trying to get church
membership lists and encouraging them to vote for the Shrub. According
to a report today on the Dianne Reame show on NPR, apparently the
reelection campaign has also contacted the Vatican to enlist them to
pressure catholics to vote for S
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