Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-30 Thread Robert Munn
We're playing a long game in the Middle East. I can only surmise that Bush passed the ball to Obama, and he is playing out the same game. Maybe he has even thrown in a few wrinkles like all the bowing and scraping and apologizing overseas when he first started. Recently I've been thinking that al

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-30 Thread Maureen
The republicans will tell you that they can win because they have guns and the dems don't. They might be in for a rather unpleasant surprise. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Casey Dougall wrote: > Lets say we fought another civil war in USA and pit Republicans vs. > Democrats. Could one side

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-30 Thread Casey Dougall
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > > Totally intelligent questions with no real answers. The only thing I can > think of is Obama wants to milk this Arab protest thing as much as he can. > He denounces Mubarik immediately. He waits till rebels

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
capable of arming the rebels? I mean...that's what > they do isnt it? (Lord of War) :-) > > On 29 March 2011 13:33, Michael Dinowitz > wrote: > > > > > Rice has said that Obama has not ruled out arming the Libyan rebels. Can > he > > do this without congres

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8407047/Libyan-rebel-commander-admits-his-fighters-have-al-Qaeda-links.html I have a bunch of other links but I wanted to post the one that would generate the least

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread Sam
At least you're consistent with your conspiracy theories. I'm hearing we went in to secure the European energy, or just to help the elections there. Whatever reason I think we didn't do much planning. Big troubles ahead. . On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Maureen wrote: > > The only change i

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread Sam
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Vivec wrote: > > That was then..I do remember it. > but he seemed to have made a complete 180 since then, and I can't recall any > reports of issues with him. Luckily we scared the nukes out of him when we went after Saddam. > In fact several US stars held a con

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread Maureen
The only change is how the media portrayed him. He didn't change at all. The US propaganda machine is great at sitting up straw men for us to hate, then changing their stance completely when the next hot issue comes along. Big bads in the past who are now either our friends or at least no longe

RE: Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread Jacob
Didn't Reagan do this back in the early 80s with the contras? -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:33 AM To: cf-community Subject: Can he do this? Rice has said that Obama has not ruled out arming the L

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread G Money
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > > Rice has said that Obama has not ruled out arming the Libyan rebels. Can he > do this without congressional oversight? > > As an aside, the more I actually learn about the rebels,

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread Vivec
That was then..I do remember it. but he seemed to have made a complete 180 since then, and I can't recall any reports of issues with him. In fact several US stars held a concert just the other day in Libya. Before this uprising, I can't recall any recent issues with him and the US, or other Weste

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
Well, there is that little matter of Ghaddafi being behind state sponsored terrorism like the Lockerbie bombing and the bombing of Marine barracks. You may not remember it, but Reagan sent cruise missiles into Ghaddafi's compound before (without Congressional authorization, btw) and killed members

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread Vivec
that Obama has not ruled out arming the Libyan rebels. Can > he > > do this without congressional oversight? > > > > As an aside, the more I actually learn about the rebels, the more I see > that > > they are not the people w

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread Vivec
international arms merchants? Aren't they more than capable of arming the rebels? I mean...that's what they do isnt it? (Lord of War) :-) On 29 March 2011 13:33, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Rice has said that Obama has not ruled out arming the Libyan rebels. Can he > do this

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread Greg Morphis
I just hope it doesn't turn into another Afghanistan.. arm the rebels now and be fighting them in a few years On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Rice has said that Obama has not ruled out arming the Libyan rebels. Can he > do this without congressi

Re: Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Rice has said that Obama has not ruled out arming the Libyan rebels. Can he > do this without congressional oversight? Reagan did it. "Legal" seems to be less and less of a useful distinction with Presidents. >

Can he do this?

2011-03-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Rice has said that Obama has not ruled out arming the Libyan rebels. Can he do this without congressional oversight? As an aside, the more I actually learn about the rebels, the more I see that they are not the people we really want to be supporting. Are they the lesser of two evils