Re: Drone death interactive timeline

2013-03-27 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I dont know that it matters (for my point) who defines other, or civilian, as long as the metrics stay the same (so that #s and categorization methods remains the same)." That's the point. Administrations changed. If Administrationsare desciminating the information, are they using the same met

Re: Drone death interactive timeline

2013-03-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
"The great thing about America is also one of it's weaknesses: You can be a complete idiot, and still be very successful, in America." Yes all hail George W. Bush. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:13 PM, GMoney wrote: > > The great thing about America is also one of it's weaknesses: You can be a > co

Re: Drone death interactive timeline

2013-03-26 Thread Sam
That still depends on who provides the stats. http://www.scribd.com/doc/115147268/Youth-Disrupted-Effects-of-U-S-Drone-Strikes-on-Children-in-Targeted-Areas And your improvement is based on one attack in 2006 that killed so many children. But is it accurate to say that it was a US Drone or that

Re: Drone death interactive timeline

2013-03-26 Thread GMoney
The great thing about America is also one of it's weaknesses: You can be a complete idiot, and still be very successful, in America. Means everyone has a chance...which is greatalso means a lot of morons succeedwhich can have some not-so-great consequences. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:09

Re: Drone death interactive timeline

2013-03-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Thank you Jerry, you managed to remind me of this classic Isaac Asimov quote: "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" -- Isa

Re: Drone death interactive timeline

2013-03-26 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I dont know that it matters (for my point) who defines other, or civilian, as long as the metrics stay the same (so that #s and categorization methods remains the same). The metrics are improving. overall debate about categorization and counting methodologies is still useful, as is comparison of

Re: Drone death interactive timeline

2013-03-26 Thread LRS Scout
Yup, like say a 16 year old who did nothing wrong, - other.. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Since Obama took office, the drone program has gone WAY up, and the > 'collateral' > deaths (which is a horribly callous word for dead children) has gone WAY > down." > >

Re: Drone death interactive timeline

2013-03-26 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Since Obama took office, the drone program has gone WAY up, and the 'collateral' deaths (which is a horribly callous word for dead children) has gone WAY down." Jerry, ask yourself the question: Who defines "other"? J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputatio

Re: Drone death interactive timeline

2013-03-26 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Sure do love the magic of statistics" Here are some nice quotes on stats: A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic. Any statistics can be extrapolated to the point where they show disaster. Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable. He uses statistics as a drunken

Re: Drone death interactive timeline

2013-03-26 Thread Sam
I guess it all depends on who you ask and how they define "other" Sure do love the magic of statistics . On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > http://drones.pitchinteractive.com/ > > It is obvious the intention this chart was INTENDED to have, but I think I > took away

Drone death interactive timeline

2013-03-26 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
http://drones.pitchinteractive.com/ It is obvious the intention this chart was INTENDED to have, but I think I took away a much different conclusion. Since Obama took office, the drone program has gone WAY up, and the "collateral" deaths (which is a horribly callous word for dead children) has g