"It isn't hard to lend credence to the claims of oppression from
the Egyptian people."
Of course there is oppression. The Egyptian people have been oppressed for
decades. Egypt has a brutal secret police that have, up until the current
events, managed to keep the citizens in line.
J
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My vow
Al Jazeera offices have gotten shut down in Cairo!
It isn't hard to lend credence to the claims of oppression from the
Egyptian people.
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Depends on who you ask?
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From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 15:39
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Egypt is missing
Al Jazeera seems to be beating the other news networks on information from
Egypt.
http://blogs.aljazeera.net
School of the Americas?
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Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 17:11
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Egypt is missing
Apparently one guy was brought to the US for activism training, so I would
say they know him.
On Sat, Jan
Apparently one guy was brought to the US for activism training, so I would
say they know him.
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Sam wrote:
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> But do we know who the protesters we're backing are?
>
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Al Jazeera seems to be beating the other news networks on information
from Egypt.
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/01/29/live-blog-291-egypt-protests
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
Muslim Brotherhood claims they want political prisoners released.
Not sure whether that's a go
But do we know who the protesters we're backing are?
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> Consider: printing dollars has resulted in what the Chinese president
> referred to so petulantly as exporting inflation to low-wage countries. That
> inflation has helped fuel unrest
Consider: printing dollars has resulted in what the Chinese president
referred to so petulantly as exporting inflation to low-wage countries. That
inflation has helped fuel unrest in places like Tunisia and Egypt. Now we
have reports that the US aided Egyptian protesters. Would it surprise anyone
Egypt protests: America's secret backing for rebel leaders behind uprising
The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the
Egyptian uprising who have been planning regime change for the past
three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne
More great personal coverage:
http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2011/01/28/egypt-too-soon-to-analyze-so-heres-my-outbox/
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> I seem to remember some story about printers containing a spy chip
> being produced for certain countries by a
I seem to remember some story about printers containing a spy chip
being produced for certain countries by a US manufacturer. Imagine
getting access to any printed document in an entire government. Mark
it Top Secret all you want, the printer just sent a copy to
Langley
-Cameron
On Fri, Ja
At least not until the first time it is used...
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From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 14:42
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Egypt is missing
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com>
Ah, it is a _stealth_ chip.
Like Wonder Woman's plane.
(which the Chinese would get a hold of, and build one just like it)
I understand now.
=)
Sadly, as our own friendly-fire casualties show, even our newest weapons are
not smart enough to shoot us.
The only good news is: mostly, the equip
s <
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> I am sure that would be a great selling point ;-)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 13:46
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Egypt is missing
>
>
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> I am sure that would be a great selling point ;-)
>
They wouldn't know about the chip, silly.
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I am sure that would be a great selling point ;-)
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Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 13:46
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Egypt is missing
Every American made weapon that we build for another country should contain
a secret tiny
Every American made weapon that we build for another country should contain
a secret tiny chip in it that can be activated at any time by our government
to render it useless.
That would be pretty cool.
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote:
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> Also, unfortunately, today man
Also, unfortunately, today many of the weapon systems we resell were NOT
made fully in the USA.
Just as the shovel-ready projects we have "greenlighted" with the stimulus
are using Chinese steel, and illegal immigrant labor, we are borrowing
foreign money (China) to line the pockets of the rich b
Very nice and it touches on a tiny but important issue - military aid. If
the US gave Egypt more economic aid than military, this problem might have
been avoided. 1.3 BILLION is a lot of money, even if it's mostly virtual.
We play these games all over the place. We give military aid to Egypt (who
Good explanation of what has happened and is happening in Egypt, and why:
http://promotingpeace.tumblr.com/post/2969260999
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This is become a lesser of two evils type of thing. Mubarak isn't that great
but he's kept Egypt from being taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood, who
would be more than happy to turn Egypt into a theocracy. As with all things,
there are more things going on here than what we see in the 'western' m
I wish good, peaceful transition to wherever they are heading.
A few interesting notes on external reaction:
Fitch Ratigns Agency has downgraded Egypt's credit rating from 'stable' to
'negative'.
Egypt Stock market suspended after loss of > 20% in 3 days.
The Egyptian pound is at a 6 year low, an
John Kerry actually had a pretty well done statement on the situation out today:
The events unfolding across Egypt are cause for grave concern. Egypt
is an important American ally which took brave and bold steps to make
peace with Israel, and we will never forget that President Sadat paid
for tha
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:39 AM, G Money wrote:
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> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
>>
>> But El Baradei is under house arrest and Mubarak still has the
>> grudging support of a lot of leaders, the US amongst them. I wouldn't
>> put it beyond him to find a way through th
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> But El Baradei is under house arrest and Mubarak still has the
> grudging support of a lot of leaders, the US amongst them. I wouldn't
> put it beyond him to find a way through this while keeping power.
>
I'm not sure how strong the US
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> He's done. Mohamed ElBaradei says he is joining the protests and has called
> on Mubarek to resign:
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8286969/Egyptian-protests-intensify-as-clashes-spread-across-the-Mi
The violent attacks on Western media is not a good sign.
At least 5 TV reporters have reported the "plainclothes" police have taken
cameras and destroyed them.
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He's done. Mohamed ElBaradei says he is joining the protests and has called
on Mubarek to resign:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/egypt/8286969/Egyptian-protests-intensify-as-clashes-spread-across-the-Middle-East.html
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:36 PM, Michael Dinow
By turning off the internet Mubarak may have won a battle but he'll lose the
war. Even if all of the protests are put down now, the fact that he crippled
the country for a time will cause the people to lose all trust in him.
People from all levels of society.
Bottom line is that he's finished as p
That link Michael sent has some great points.
No modern society in the age of the internet has turned it off.
How is the rest of the financial world going to react?
Embassies?
Corporations?
Even if he can hang on to power, I think he may have broken his country for
years to come.
On Fri, Jan
It isn't an overreaction.
Egypt has never had protests like this before and no one that I'm
aware of who follows Egypt was expecting anything like what they are
seeing right now from the populace. Mubarak is caught totally flat
footed. He knows how to deal with groups like the Muslim Brotherhood.
Looks like SMS and Blackberry are gone as well.
Now if someone has a phone modem they can call over to a neighboring country
and use their internet. Of course, who has one of those now-a-days.
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Michael Dinowitz <
mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:
> Looks like t
Looks like the Egyptian government has one of those internet kill switches.
They have 4 big ISPs and it looks like the government had them shut down all
connections to the 'outside world'. Kind of an extreme reaction to the
protests going on over there, but after seeing Tunisia I guess those in
po
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