"After all, if freedom of speech means anything, it means a willingness to
stand and let people say things with which we disagree, and which do weary
us considerably. "
Zechariah Chafee;
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
>
>
> Freedom of speech has devolved to mean: I am fr
"So why can't straights have a parade with pride in who they are? Still
sounds like a double standard to me."
It is a double standard. Any group that wants to have a parade, can get
participants, can afford the costs, should go for it. If others don't like
it, they can show up and protest or ha
Having spent the last 14 months dealing with my partner's estate, I could
list thousands of reasons why being married to the one you love and share a
life with is a good idea. There have been so many times when the majority
of the problems would have disappeared if I had only been his wife. I wa
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> > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 1:14 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: In case your gal didn't get enough bacon...
> >
> >
> > Really? News to me as I'
2013 1:14 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: In case your gal didn't get enough bacon...
>
>
> Really? News to me as I've never seen anything equivalent to a gay pride
> parade during the thanksgiving parade. I guess I missed the Puerto Rican
> straight pride float.
&
nt: Friday, March 29, 2013 1:14 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: In case your gal didn't get enough bacon...
Really? News to me as I've never seen anything equivalent to a gay pride
parade during the thanksgiving parade. I guess I missed the Puerto Rican
straight pride float.
But your
ct: Re: In case your gal didn't get enough bacon...
Dr. Hibbert*:* Another broccoli-related death.
Marge: But I thought broccoli was-
Dr. Hibbert: Oh yes. One of the deadliest plants on Earth. Why, it tries to
warn you itself with its terrible taste.
Amen, Doc.
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM
"Ive never seen any pro white or hetero anything, and even talking like
that is considered discriminatory by the pc brigade."
There have been recent news stories of about a White Student's Union at a
college. In fact it was a student from this union that caused such a stir
at CPAC when he made a
Ok, how about this:
If you agree to suffer the same second-rate-citizen status that homosexuals
have...forthe next 30 years...including nullification of your
marriages..then you can hold your straight pride parade.
My point is that minority classifications generally have their feelings
c
Irish catholic
Most people only consider us white when it suits them...
On Mar 29, 2013 2:34 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" wrote:
>
> How about the St Patricks Day parade in Boston, that is kinda a very, very,
> very white pride parade.
>
> (be careful where you stand, the sunlight off our Irish ski
How about the St Patricks Day parade in Boston, that is kinda a very, very,
very white pride parade.
(be careful where you stand, the sunlight off our Irish skin can be
blinding)
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:26 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> You know what I meant.
> On Mar 29, 2013 2:25 PM, "Jerry Mi
You know what I meant.
On Mar 29, 2013 2:25 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" wrote:
>
> I have seen a pro-white parade. in Idaho. It was not a comfortable thing.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:18 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> >
> > Ive never seen any pro white or hetero anything, and even talking like
I have seen a pro-white parade. in Idaho. It was not a comfortable thing.
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:18 PM, LRS Scout wrote:
>
> Ive never seen any pro white or hetero anything, and even talking like that
> is considered discriminatory by the pc brigade.
>
> Michael is right.
> On Mar 29, 201
Ive never seen any pro white or hetero anything, and even talking like that
is considered discriminatory by the pc brigade.
Michael is right.
On Mar 29, 2013 2:15 PM, "Michael Dinowitz"
wrote:
>
> Really? News to me as I've never seen anything equivalent to a gay pride
> parade during the thank
Really? News to me as I've never seen anything equivalent to a gay pride
parade during the thanksgiving parade. I guess I missed the Puerto Rican
straight pride float.
But your answer is the one I expected. Whites and straights are in every
parade so there will never be a white pride parade or a s
Happens every day.
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Michael Dinowitz
wrote:
>
> If gays can get married does that mean that straights can have a straight
> pride parade? Just wondering.
>
>
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It would not be an issue if it weren't for all the weird psychological
issues that are inevitably brought up.
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
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> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
>> With people like Clarence Thomas on the bench (look up whom hi
Sure. It is called "every other parade".
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote:
>
> If gays can get married does that mean that straights can have a straight
> pride parade? Just wondering.
>
>
~~
If gays can get married does that mean that straights can have a straight pride
parade? Just wondering.
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On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Eric Roberts <
ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> It doesn't matter if it is relevant to you and me...what matters is
> whether or not it is legally relevant.
In a general sense, when conversing with someone else, what matters is what
is relevant to the
Dr. Hibbert*:* Another broccoli-related death.
Marge: But I thought broccoli was
Dr. Hibbert: Oh yes. One of the deadliest plants on Earth. Why, it tries to
warn you itself with its terrible taste.
Amen, Doc.
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM, William Bowen wrote:
>
> You just haven't met the r
meron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:42 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: In case your gal didn't get enough bacon...
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Larry C. Lyons
wrote:
> Marriage is a legal contract. That is the issue before the court.
> The relig
exactly
-Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:33 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: In case your gal didn't get enough bacon...
Marriage is a legal contract. That is the issue before the court. The
religious aspects ar
No it isn't a religious institution. Today, you can get married in a
non-religious ceremony.
-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:30 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: In case your gal didn't get enough bacon..
are attending the wrong church...
Eric
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From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:16 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: In case your gal didn't get enough bacon...
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Casey Do
You just haven't met the right broccoli yet.
;-)
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:15 AM, GMoney wrote:
>
> I think the "what will i tell my kids?" argument is a dodge, a front for
> their inability to come to terms with their own feelings and beliefs.
>
> I will admit that I find it grossi can't
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> With people like Clarence Thomas on the bench (look up whom his
> wife lobbies for, its scary) I rather doubt it. Just listening to the
> audio arguments from C-Span it was pathetic. Scalia just repeated some
> very tired questions that wh
With people like Clarence Thomas on the bench (look up whom his wife
lobbies for, its scary) I rather doubt it. Just listening to the audio
arguments from C-Span it was pathetic. Scalia just repeated some very
tired questions that where shown to be crap years ago. (the Regernus
study for instance)
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> Marriage is a legal contract. That is the issue before the court.
> The religious aspects are not relevant.
They are not *supposed* to be relevant.
They are VERY relevant to many (most?) opponents. They are not supposed to
be relevant t
Marriage is a legal contract. That is the issue before the court. The
religious aspects are not relevant.
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
>
>> Is it? For most of our civilization's history the church
>
>
> It
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> Is it? For most of our civilization's history the church
It is today. That's really what's relevant in the current societal debate.
-Cameron
...
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Is it? For most of our civilization's history the church was not
involved in marriage - until the mid to late medieval era.Well before
and well after that, the main idea of marriage was property and wealth
consolidation. For many in the early history of the US marriage was
not a religious ceremony
"I support it actually."
I was just joking since you used "gal" instead of significant other.
J
-
Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
- Henry Kissinger
Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel,
go out and buy some more
In this society you cannot take the government out of marriage. There
are over 1700 federal benefits for married couples. That doesn't
include inheritance rights, guardianship, etc. If you want to remove
government from marriage, you'll have to remove all of those benefits.
And there will be a how
+1000 kids are much more able to handle things than we give them credit for.
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> When my dad was still alive and fighting cancer, we decided not to shelter
> out children from what was going on (the boys were 11 and 7 at the time).
> We had ver
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions <
ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote:
> civil union and domestic partnerships don't mean the same thing
> as marriage. Take the government out of the picture and it would just
> be that you are married or you live with so
makin' bacon?
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
>> You can get bacon flavored condoms.
>
>
> Gives new meaning to "porking" someone.
>
> -Cameron
>
> ...
>
>
>
~~
I'd hate to be the taste tester.
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
>
> You can get bacon flavored condoms.
>
> http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/03/28/company-releases-new-bacon-flavore
> d-condoms/
>
> 'Murica!
>
>
>
>
>
>
~
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
> > I used to be in the "let them have civil unions" camp.
civil union and domestic partnerships don't mean the same thing
as marriage. Take the government out of the picture and it would just be
that you are married or you live with so
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
> ...and just because I personally don't like broccoli doesn't mean that we
> should attempt to stop other people from eating broccoli.
>
throw some cheese on it and eat it, or we won't be going out for ice cream!
--
Casey Dougall
Ü
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:55 AM, GMoney wrote:
> I used to be in the "let them have civil unions" camp.
>
> And i didn't have a response.
+1
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...
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I used to be in the "let them have civil unions" camp. My thought was, the
religious zealots got to keep providence over that sacred word "marriage",
but gay people would be granted all the same rights.
Then someone responded to one of my posts with "Kind of like separate, but
equal, eh?"
And i
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
> I will tell you that back in the 80's I was a total homophobe. I met
> a girl who was in the same company as I was when stationed in Germany.
> We dated for a couple years and she really opened my eyes to many things.
My opinion on gay marr
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> People tend to not give kids enough credit when it comes to issues
> adults are uncomfortable dealing with.
This is the real problem. It's not uncomfortable for the kids - they don't
care, it's uncomfortable for the parents.
-Cameron
...
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:15 AM, GMoney wrote:
> If anyone, including my children, ask about itit's a pretty simple
> answer: "Some men prefer broccoli...and other men...and some don't."
...and just because I personally don't like broccoli doesn't mean that we
should attempt to stop other
When my dad was still alive and fighting cancer, we decided not to shelter
out children from what was going on (the boys were 11 and 7 at the time).
We had very honest and frank discussions with them about what BePa (that is
what they called my dad) was going through and the possible outcomes. As
I think the "what will i tell my kids?" argument is a dodge, a front for
their inability to come to terms with their own feelings and beliefs.
I will admit that I find it grossi can't help that.i also find
broccoli gross...can't change that either, it's a reaction I have that's
formed bef
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Cameron Childress wrote:
> This pretty much sums it up for me...
>
> http://imgur.com/gallery/gNgnB
>
> I haven't been paying attention. Is there anyone on the list who's against
> it? I honestly am not sure I know anyone personally among friends / family
> who's
The irony of the "what will i tell my children?" argument is that,
explaining gay marriage to a child is MUCH easier than trying to explain it
to an adult. Children have no pre-conceived notions about what should be
considered "normal", and what should not.
"Some families have a mommy and a daddy
I will tell you that back in the 80's I was a total homophobe. I met a
girl who was in the same company as I was when stationed in Germany. We
dated for a couple years and she really opened my eyes to many things.
Today I am pretty open minded to a lot of things that I normally would not
have been
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
> I support it actually.
This pretty much sums it up for me...
http://imgur.com/gallery/gNgnB
I haven't been paying attention. Is there anyone on the list who's against
it? I honestly am not sure I know anyone personally among friends / fam
I support it actually.
On 3/29/13 12:27 AM, "Jerry Barnes" wrote:
>
>"In case your gal didn't get enough bacon..."
>
>Guess we know where you stand on gay marriage.
>
>
>J
>
>-
>
>Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten perce
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote:
> You can get bacon flavored condoms.
Gives new meaning to "porking" someone.
-Cameron
...
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"In case your gal didn't get enough bacon..."
Guess we know where you stand on gay marriage.
J
-
Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
- Henry Kissinger
Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel,
go out an
You can get bacon flavored condoms.
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/03/28/company-releases-new-bacon-flavore
d-condoms/
'Murica!
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