RE: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-15 Thread Scott Stewart
s.com -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:02 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop > Russ wrote: > You are making the incorrect assumption that the Bible is the only documen

Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-15 Thread Tony
its called selective godding. On 5/15/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Russ wrote: > > You are making the incorrect assumption that the Bible is the only document > > I'm just commenting on what that dude said which was, "God inspired > human authors to compose sacred books." > > So

Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-15 Thread Gruss Gott
> Russ wrote: > You are making the incorrect assumption that the Bible is the only document I'm just commenting on what that dude said which was, "God inspired human authors to compose sacred books." So I'm wondering about all of the inconsistencies and the source of the inspiration. For example

Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-15 Thread Russel Madere
You are making the incorrect assumption that the Bible is the only document on which Catholics base thier faith. If that was true then your assertion would be correct. It isn't. Catholics also have 2000 years of tradition and other writings on which we base our faith. As for the first 11 cha

Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-15 Thread Russel Madere
The Catholic interpretation of Genesis is that it is a STORY. It is not scientific fact. The story teaches us that God is Love, but humans are not (Cain and Abel). It also teaches that humans were given a free will to choose and chose not to live in perfection (Adam and Eve). There are other

RE: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-15 Thread Nick McClure
heir children is 100% factual truth. > -Original Message- > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:37 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop > > Cain and Abel weren't the only people on e

Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-15 Thread G Money
Cain and Abel weren't the only people on earth because they never existed. If we are truly talking about the Catholic interpretation of the Creation Story...it is just that, a story. On 5/15/07, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cain and Abel weren't the only people on earth. > > Cain ma

RE: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-15 Thread Nick McClure
Cain and Abel weren't the only people on earth. Cain married his Sister. > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > And if Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel were the only people on Earth ... > where'd Cain get a wife from? Was it Eve? > ~

RE: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-15 Thread Nick McClure
Personal interpretation and state sponsored translation? > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yeah, but I always wonder about this part: "God inspired human authors > to compose sacred books." > > Really? Cause these books are sure aren't very clear, cle

Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-15 Thread G Money
On 5/14/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, then what did he inspire, when, and to whom? Adam and Eve? Cain? > Abram? Not Jesus, because he specifically said you *shouldn't* write > down his words. Whoa, when did he say that And why would God decided to inspire some people p

Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-14 Thread Vivec
I don't think we'll ever really know what God said, or what happened way back then. So many wars, and so many different regimes. All of which seemed to pillage and burn all the books and learning of the time, keeping and then rewriting what the specific regime wanted. When the bible was put togeth

Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-14 Thread Gruss Gott
> Russ wrote: > He said inspired, not infallible. The books are still the product of humans. > Ok, then what did he inspire, when, and to whom? Adam and Eve? Cain? Abram? Not Jesus, because he specifically said you *shouldn't* write down his words. And why would God decided to inspire some p

Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Man wrote books inspired by "God". The books are error prone. because... Humans are, by definition, imperfect. We know this because it says so in those error prone books inspired by "god" and written by man. Any chance that might have been a mistake and we are perfect after all? Russel Ma

Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-14 Thread Russel Madere
He said inspired, not infallible. The books are still the product of humans. >Yeah, but I always wonder about this part: "God inspired human authors >to compose sacred books." > >Really? Cause these books are sure aren't very clear, clearly come >from millennia of tales pre-writing, and clearly

Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-14 Thread G Money
That's easy dude. God only provided the inspiration. After that, they are purely the result of human labor, which incurs all the biases and imperfections inherent in the human animal. You know, if you look at the big picture...maybe that's been the joke all along: Look at how many different interp

Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-14 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > Catholics usually get this right, to their credit. > Yeah, but I always wonder about this part: "God inspired human authors to compose sacred books." Really? Cause these books are sure aren't very clear, clearly come from millennia of tales pre-writing, and clearly were gathere

Re: Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-14 Thread G Money
Catholics usually get this right, to their credit. On 5/14/07, Russel Madere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By Archbishop Alfred C. Hughes, Clarion Herald Column, May 5, 2007 > > > > First, biblical fundamentalism does not answer legitimate scientific > questions. We need to clarify what it t

Interesting view on science from a Catholic Bishop

2007-05-14 Thread Russel Madere
By Archbishop Alfred C. Hughes, Clarion Herald Column, May 5, 2007 First, biblical fundamentalism does not answer legitimate scientific questions. We need to clarify what it truly means to accept the inspiration of Holy Scripture. God inspired human authors to compose sacred books. They pr