On 9/25/06, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Just for the record, I hated him when he was on Sunday Night Football. It
> isn't quite as bad as SNF, since Paul McGwire has been banished to other
> games. Those two idiots together were the worst combo on sports tv.
I dunno, you ever watch
As a young player and pro I can see Joe being a good influence. I grew up in
Maryland during Joe's best years with the Skins and he was always a
well-liked guy in the community. But as a commentator, well, he needs to put
it back in his pants. The microphone, I mean.
On 9/25/06, Jerry wrote:
>
>
I personally love Joe Theisman.
I was in Little League Baseball with his son (maybe 1974 and 75), and
he came to bunches of games, and always stayed late and signed any
autographs and answered any questions kids had. (He wouldn't sign
autographs while the teams were playing though).
Regardless of
Is anyone else watching the Saints and Falcons? The Saints are putting the
wood to Atlanta, but the funniest thing about the game is the Joe Theismann.
By funny I mean it is funny to laugh at what an idiot he is. He was
questioning why the officials threw a flag that was later picked up and he
said
>
> Honestly, I don't disagree with you (for the most part). I don't
> think Eli sicced (?) Archie on anybody. My understanding is that
> Archie knows a lot about being a good QB on a lousy team, and didn't
> want that for his kid.
Archie was paid well, and is generally beloved for his hard nose
That is actually a darn good idea.
-Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 2:31 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: MNF
Better yet, who benefits the most from student athletes? Make them
pay. Or since its the NFL and NBA that really
Better yet, who benefits the most from student athletes? Make them
pay. Or since its the NFL and NBA that really benefit from college
athletics, let them pay for it. They are the only ones who do not have
a farm system. The NBA and NFL get to freeload off the college system
and not pay their own wa
On 8/9/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Wh...i got drafted #1 by a professional NFL team who wants to pay
> me millions of dollars to play a game and live in one of the best cities in
> the countrywh i don't want to play for this team.
> I'm gonna sick my famous D
+1000 on yer NCAA idea.
>
> Well, there you go. If you want a stadium convince a local or state
> gov't to buy the team. Problem solved.
>
> Let's solve another sports problem: college sports. Instead of the
> insane way things work today, let's just make college athletes
> employees of the co
> Brian wrote:
> Which, by the way, has created a love affair between city and organization
> unequalled in the annals of professional sports.
>
Well, there you go. If you want a stadium convince a local or state
gov't to buy the team. Problem solved.
Let's solve another sports problem: colle
"Wh...i got drafted #1 by a professional NFL team who wants to pay
me millions of dollars to play a game and live in one of the best cities in
the countrywh i don't want to play for this team.
I'm gonna sick my famous Daddy on you if you don't trade me to New
Yor
+1 :)
G wrote:
> I hope that game is to decide who picks 1st or 2nd in the 2006 NFL draft :)
>
> Moss, Manning. A reason to root against both teams.
>
>
>
>>a i see... i keep forgetting that the schedule is out.
>>
>>tw
>>
>>On 8/9/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Gian
i cant wait till we get to play kc this year.
dante hall cant do EVERYTHING.
tw
On 8/9/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hope that game is to decide who picks 1st or 2nd in the 2006 NFL draft :)
>
> Moss, Manning. A reason to root against both teams.
>
>
> > a i see... i keep forgettin
what do you have against Manning (unless you're a San Diego fan, in
which case I agree)?
On 8/9/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hope that game is to decide who picks 1st or 2nd in the 2006 NFL draft :)
>
> Moss, Manning. A reason to root against both teams.
>
>
> > a i see... i keep fo
Which, by the way, has created a love affair between city and organization
unequalled in the annals of professional sports.
>I don't know all the details pertaining to Green Bay's new stadium. I
> do know that it is an awesome facility open 363 days a year. It has
> several restaurants and its
I hope that game is to decide who picks 1st or 2nd in the 2006 NFL draft :)
Moss, Manning. A reason to root against both teams.
> a i see... i keep forgetting that the schedule is out.
>
> tw
>
> On 8/9/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Giants, Raiders, 8:00pm Dec 31 :)
>>
in the USA.
-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 11:12 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: MNF
Didn't Green Bay try this?
Gruss Gott wrote:
>>Brian wrote:
>>pffft! No way! Moss is a Raider! That means he IS a jock strap.
>&
a i see... i keep forgetting that the schedule is out.
tw
On 8/9/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Giants, Raiders, 8:00pm Dec 31 :)
>
> On 8/9/05, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > new years eve?
> >
> > tw
> >
> > On 8/9/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Giants, Raiders, 8:00pm Dec 31 :)
On 8/9/05, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> new years eve?
>
> tw
>
> On 8/9/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > you got the right to like whatever players and whatever teams you care
> > to like. I just personally don't like the showboats
new years eve?
tw
On 8/9/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you got the right to like whatever players and whatever teams you care
> to like. I just personally don't like the showboats like TO and Moss.
> Hell, even as a Giants fan, I really dislike Shockey (who all Giants
> fans
you got the right to like whatever players and whatever teams you care
to like. I just personally don't like the showboats like TO and Moss.
Hell, even as a Giants fan, I really dislike Shockey (who all Giants
fans are just supposed to automatically see as the next coming of Mark
Bavaro). Guy dr
On 8/9/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i can relate to being a fan of a particular team by birth. I live in
> FL now, have lived in AZ, but have always been a Giants fan (and
> always will be).
growing up my older bro was a raiders fan, i had no choice, and now im
glad i didnt!
i can relate to being a fan of a particular team by birth. I live in
FL now, have lived in AZ, but have always been a Giants fan (and
always will be).
Can't condone the being a Moss fan thing tho :) Aside from what's
previously been said about him in this thread (including the running
over the
i am
a raider fan by birth
a moss fan thank god we got him
and hope we get TO next year.
tw
On 8/9/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey i'm hatin' on the players, not the fansit might not be your fault
> your stuck being a Raiders fan. I'm stuck being a Chiefs fan through no
> fault of my
Hey i'm hatin' on the players, not the fansit might not be your fault
your stuck being a Raiders fan. I'm stuck being a Chiefs fan through no
fault of my own.
> EASY!
>
> im a raider.
>
> easy.
>
> On 8/9/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > And that's why Randy Moss has so much contem
Didn't Green Bay try this?
Gruss Gott wrote:
>>Brian wrote:
>>pffft! No way! Moss is a Raider! That means he IS a jock strap.
>>
>
>
> Heh, can't argue with the truth.
>
> Maybe there's a way we can both be happy:
>
> Now, let's say KC owns the Chiefs which make a profit. And let's say
> tha
EASY!
im a raider.
easy.
On 8/9/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > And that's why Randy Moss has so much contempt for you: he thinks
> > you're a moron who'll follow the scent of his jock strap throwing
> > money at him no matter how he treats you. Is he right?
> >
>
> pffft! No way! Mos
> Brian wrote:
> pffft! No way! Moss is a Raider! That means he IS a jock strap.
>
Heh, can't argue with the truth.
Maybe there's a way we can both be happy:
Now, let's say KC owns the Chiefs which make a profit. And let's say
that profit has been legislated to go directly to the public total
Perfect example of community financed pork and profits (when there are
some) going to a privately held corp.
Safeco Field in Seattle.
Beautiful place. Fantastic for watching baseball, when they built
this'n they built it right.
Here's the issue. It was voted DOWN, not once, but THREE times by th
It would've covered Medicare... for part of this year anyway.
>I wonder what the $320 billion used to wage war in Iraq would have done
>if applied towards affordable health care.
>
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>
> And that's why Randy Moss has so much contempt for you: he thinks
> you're a moron who'll follow the scent of his jock strap throwing
> money at him no matter how he treats you. Is he right?
>
pffft! No way! Moss is a Raider! That means he IS a jock strap.
> Brian wrote:
> My enthusiastic enjoyment of professional sports at a professional stadium
> is a huge ROI as far as i'm concerned. Is it different than building a
> convention center or public park?
>
Because those aren't private businesses that get to keep a profit from
a monopoly based on ta
The ROI is measured in the fact that millions of dedicated sports nuts like
myself have a venue for our favorite form of entertainment. I don't know,
and frankly don't care, if stadiums generate revenue.
Public parks don't generate very much moneybut we keep building them
anyway...why?
Just to stir the pot a bit,
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?num=100&hl=en&lr=&q=%22Return+on+Investment%22+Stadium&btnG=Search
it would seem that most of the economic studies in the returned list
don't find a good ROI on publically financed sports stadiums. One in
particular (http://www.mpls.fr
On 8/9/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Then we agree. Sports stadiums have no ROI and the public shouldn't
> support your hobby. I don't ask you to pay for my car and you
> shouldn't ask me to pay for your sports obsession.
Who agreed to that (besides you)?
Haven't had time to do
> Then we agree. Sports stadiums have no ROI and the public shouldn't
> support your hobby. I don't ask you to pay for my car and you
> shouldn't ask me to pay for your sports obsession.
No, we don't agree :)
My enthusiastic enjoyment of professional sports at a professional stadium
is a huge
> Brian wrote:
> Ah, spoken like a true NON sports fan. I have no convincing arguments.
Then we agree. Sports stadiums have no ROI and the public shouldn't
support your hobby. I don't ask you to pay for my car and you
shouldn't ask me to pay for your sports obsession.
As to schools, these do
sent to
the UN :)
- Original Message -
From: "G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community"
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: MNF
> I"m all for that. But if you get to withdraw your tax dollars from my
> stadium, I should get
I"m all for that. But if you get to withdraw your tax dollars from my
stadium, I should get to withdraw my tax dollars from your public schools.
You'll never use my stadium, i'll never use your public school :)
> but they are my tax dollars as well. If you want the nice shiny brand
> new stadi
I don't know if they did or did not. Just as I don't know if they
included the jobs that new hotels in the area would bring in...or the
taxes collected on people staying in those hotels. Or the taxes
collected from people working in those hotels. Restaurants too.
Yes, of course on any given sun
did the cost/benefits analysis include cost of increased road
maintenance, increased policing costs, etc.
larry
On 8/9/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/9/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > then you should pay for it. Why should tax dollars go to support your
>
but they are my tax dollars as well. If you want the nice shiny brand
new stadium, then you pay for it. It doesn't benefit the community
nearly as much as education does.
larry
On 8/9/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey, i already said i'm more than happy to pay for it. Tax dollars should go
>
I have no problem with my tax dollars being used for a stadium or in
Sacramento's case a new Arena.
We have been having this debate for two or three years now here in
Sacramento.
I think the whole idea is being sold wrong. True the Kings will be a
big beneficiary of a new stadium. However, the
On 8/9/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> then you should pay for it. Why should tax dollars go to support your
> entertainment? If you want the box seats etc, you should pay for it.
> As an aside, thee was a study done about 10 years ago that looked at
> the costs of athletic programs
Hey, i already said i'm more than happy to pay for it. Tax dollars should go
to pay for my entertainment because they are MY tax dollars! Tax dollars go
to pay to educate your children because they are YOUR tax dollars.
> then you should pay for it. Why should tax dollars go to support your
> e
I wonder what the $320 billion used to wage war in Iraq would have done
if applied towards affordable health care.
Heck I bet we could have even afforded a new stadium or two and an extra
edition of All Things Considered.
Matthew Blatchley wrote:
> I'd rather see the tax dollars go towards affor
then you should pay for it. Why should tax dollars go to support your
entertainment? If you want the box seats etc, you should pay for it.
As an aside, thee was a study done about 10 years ago that looked at
the costs of athletic programs, and instead of being a money maker,
these programs with the
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community"
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:02 AM
> Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: MNF
>
>
>
>>Ah, spoken like a true NON sports fan.
>>
>>I have no convincing arguments. The only argument i've got is "I love
&g
brian's the name, G's the nickname.
i want more stealth bombers. Gimme sports stadiumsand more stealth
bombers to fly over those stadiums during the anthemand i'm a happy guy.
> with ya G, or is it brian?
> i never know.
>
> anyway.
>
> id rather spend it on sports than:
>
> bombs
> try
n a new stadium :)
- Original Message -
From: "G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community"
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:02 AM
Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: MNF
> Ah, spoken like a true NON sports fan.
>
> I have no convincing arguments. The only argumen
with ya G, or is it brian?
i never know.
anyway.
id rather spend it on sports than:
bombs
trying to get walmart to come to town
bombs
worthless people in jail who are repeat offenders
bombs
On 8/9/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pay my share too, please.
>
> On 8/9/05, G <[EMAIL
Pay my share too, please.
On 8/9/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You may not think that's a return on the investment, but I do. I wish I
> could direct that ALL my tax dollars be given to building sports arenas!
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Ah, spoken like a true NON sports fan.
I have no convincing arguments. The only argument i've got is "I love
sports". I absolutely love having professional sports teams playing in
professional sports stadiums in my city. I love going out to the games, or
watching them on TV and being proud of o
> Brian wrote:
> You guys should have built the Vikes and the Twins a stadium YEARS ago.
> Seriously.
Nobody has ever explained to me why the public should subsidize
milionaires. You've got billionaire owners, that pay hundreds of
millions to players, but can't afford a stadium?
Even though I
>
> I love football and am a MNF fan - even when Dennis Miller was in the
> booth!
I liked Miller, but then, I was one of the minority of viewers who
understood his obscure jokes and references.
>
> I've kinda been turned off by professional sports in general, though,
> Brian wrote:
> ME!!
>
I love football and am a MNF fan - even when Dennis Miller was in the booth!
I've kinda been turned off by professional sports in general, though,
which isn't an odd feeling in MN. Just about any fan has been
offended to the point of not cari
ME!!
Now if only fiancee was as excited about it as you and I are.
> OMG. IT IS SOOO AWESOME to have the sounds of MNF on the telly
> again.
>
> Al Michaels. I just love the sound of his voice.
>
>
>
> So who else is as excited as I a
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> OMG. IT IS SOOO AWESOME to have the sounds of MNF on the telly
> again.
>
> Al Michaels. I just love the sound of his voice.
>
>
>
> So who else is as excit
OMG. IT IS SOOO AWESOME to have the sounds of MNF on the telly
again.
Al Michaels. I just love the sound of his voice.
So who else is as excited as I am?
Cheers,
Erika
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