Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-15 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > increased for everyone. Hospitals have to charge $20 for a bandaid to cover > their overhead. In the battle for U.S. health care, patients and doctors are losing. Who Killed Health Care? shows how to win the war. One of the nation's most respected health care analysts, Regina He

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-15 Thread Dana Tierney
I dunno...Consumer driven care, as I understand it, still runs into the basic flaw in the US system. Because so many people do not get health care until they are very sick, costs are unnecessarily increased for everyone. Hospitals have to charge $20 for a bandaid to cover their overhead. So whil

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-15 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > I don't know what has or has not been adopted in the UK. I have not > been there in years. I think the solution is Consumer Driven Healthcare (CDH) or HCT (Health care transformation). There's LOTS of startups working in this space - it's the new internet boom: http://revolutionh

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-15 Thread Dana
I don't know what has or has not been adopted in the UK. I have not been there in years. All I am saying is that there are risks associated with being an early adopter. I've expressed some disdain for the Canadian system before. But let's bear in mind that I hear rants from family when the system

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-15 Thread Sam
Splain please. Are you saying you went to the US as a child, in the last 15 years, and givin the most prescribed antidepressants on the market? According to D's statement they wouldn't have adapted it in the UK. On 6/14/07, Wayne Putterill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a former victim of Serox

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-14 Thread Wayne Putterill
As a former victim of Seroxat/Paxil I can agreee with you on that! On 15/06/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes and being a bit conservative about adopting new drugs does help avoid > fiascos like COX-2 and erm, the weight-loss drug that causes cancer, the > diabetes drug that caus

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-14 Thread Dana Tierney
Yes and being a bit conservative about adopting new drugs does help avoid fiascos like COX-2 and erm, the weight-loss drug that causes cancer, the diabetes drug that causes heart attacks, the depression meds that cause suicide. And all like dat... Dana >Just one example, there are many that wo

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Wayne Putterill
Just one example, there are many that would swing the other way. The success of the national health service is best shown by the fact that not one of the major political parties would dare to get rid of it, even a hint that it is being weakened provokes a media storm - it's pretty much the number

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Dinner
I was aim-ing for more of the Aing, like in "aim", vs. Eng, as in "bling". Spanglish vs. um, latin-ish? Puerto Rico, Ho! Awww, now I'm all messed up. On 6/13/07, Vivec wrote: > > It's meng. > > On 6/13/07, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 6/13/07, Jim Davis wrote: > > > > I think there'

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Vivec
It's meng. On 6/13/07, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/13/07, Jim Davis wrote: > > I think there's a /bit/ more to linux than status, maing. ~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 &

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Dinner
On 6/13/07, Jim Davis wrote: > > where the tech elite pat themselves on the back for using Linux. I think there's a /bit/ more to linux than status, maing. 0.0 \_/ ~| ColdFusion 8 beta – Build next generation applications tod

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Dana
ah do you knowhow they are doing with that $100 laptop thing? I have not looked ina while... On 6/13/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > no, this is their own thing led by Chavez's government. > There will still be several people that can't afford a 530US$ computer. > > On 6/13/07, Dana <[EMAI

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Vivec
no, this is their own thing led by Chavez's government. There will still be several people that can't afford a 530US$ computer. On 6/13/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is this part of the one child one laptop movement? ~| C

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Dana
depends what you are measuring. Access to specific expensive remedies is a little more difficult. In Canada too. On the other hand, in the US you have people who have no access to care at all. On 6/13/07, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would call this piss poor. > > reposted form May 11 > > ht

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Dana
hehehe right. On 6/13/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That isn't really a good comparison. If a US President tried to do the > things that Chavez has done to that country, he would have been impeached > ages ago. > > On 6/13/07, Vivec wrote: > > > > > > Now it is fair to ask if broa

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Sam
I would call this piss poor. reposted form May 11 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/10/ncancer10.xml "To some extent this is determined by economic factors, but much of the variation between countries remains unexplained. In the US we have found that the survival of ca

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Dana
Is this part of the one child one laptop movement? On 6/13/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes they did, and if you could speak spanish you would see they are > doing the same thing currently on YouTube :) > > As for the computers, they aren't setting them up so to speak. They > are selling

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Vivec
Yes it is a good comparison, when you stick to the issues being compared which is the issue of Broadcast Licenses and those that have not been renewed in other countries. The commentary stated simply that if a broadcast station were involved in sedition and openly calling for a Coup that most proba

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Robert Munn
That isn't really a good comparison. If a US President tried to do the things that Chavez has done to that country, he would have been impeached ages ago. On 6/13/07, Vivec wrote: > > > Now it is fair to ask if broadcast licences would be lost in European > countries or even in the United States

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Vivec
Heres a Blog Post http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2007/5/27/162742/757 "Venevisión participated with RCTV and other private television stations in the coup against President Chávez in April 2002. The memories of journalists, television executives and coup plotters congratulating each other

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Vivec
Yes they did, and if you could speak spanish you would see they are doing the same thing currently on YouTube :) As for the computers, they aren't setting them up so to speak. They are selling them. People, thus far, can do what they want with them after that. Wipe the OS etc. if they wish. But mo

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread G Money
On 6/13/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He took their media? > > oh you mean the television station that did not get their license > renewed because they openly supported and encouraged the overthrow of > a democratically elected government? Do you know that their reporters > openly stated

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Wayne Putterill
Point 2 - how about the National Health Service in the UK, seems to work pretty well? On 13/06/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > gMoney wrote: > > Wow is right. He took their oil, he took their media, now he wants their > > computer access. > > > > Wow indeed. > > > > Gel. Why set y

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: > Wow is right. He took their oil, he took their media, now he wants their > computer access. > > Wow indeed. > Gel. Why set yourself up disappointment again? Let's cover the bases: 1.) Chavez, personally as a leader, has proven time and time again that he's a dictator in waitin

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Jim Davis
>However, it is something that needs to be considered since it can >certainly increase the number of Linux users dramatically in the >coming years. Or a dramatic increase in the sale (or, in the worst case, piracy) of Windows Licenses. ;^) Microsoft clearly has an opportunity wherever a large n

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Vivec
He took their media? oh you mean the television station that did not get their license renewed because they openly supported and encouraged the overthrow of a democratically elected government? Do you know that their reporters openly stated and encouraged venezuelans to violently overthrow Chavez

Re: More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread G Money
Wow is right. He took their oil, he took their media, now he wants their computer access. Wow indeed. On 6/13/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wow. > > The Venezuelan government mobilised fully functional computer systems > for the populace that cost 300US less than similar systems elsewh

More reason to hate Chavez ^_^

2007-06-13 Thread Vivec
Wow. The Venezuelan government mobilised fully functional computer systems for the populace that cost 300US less than similar systems elsewhere. They load it with all Open Source software and provide it to the population. In the future they are seeing what parts could be manufactured locally to f