Re: oops, disregard the waste of time email

2013-10-15 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
what i find interesting, is that the current government shutdown, where all "non essential" workers are laid off, seems to be EXACTLY in line with tough Republican spending wishes. Look at the red highlighted portions of the visualization here: http://labs.enigma.io/shutdown2013/ Why on earth wo

Re: oops, disregard the waste of time email

2013-10-15 Thread Judah McAuley
The Daily Currant is a satire site, however, it's not far from the truth in this case. Republicans outside Congress (see Ms. Palin) and inside the House (Rep. Gohmert for one) have started pushing a theory that if Obama "defaults on the debt" that it will constitute a High Crime and Misdemeanor.

oops, disregard the waste of time email

2013-10-15 Thread Bruce Sorge
I jumped the gun and didn't check Snopes first. My bad and apologies ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.hous

OOPS!

2013-09-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Practice bomb dropped outside Maryland tavern nearly went unnoticed. http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/practice-bomb-dropped-outside-maryland-tavern-nearly-went-unnoticed/2013/08/31/ba35ff38-124a-11e3-85b6-d27422650fd5_story.html ~~~

RE: Gallup...oops

2013-06-06 Thread Eric Roberts
If anything, the poll showing Romney winning was the one that was biased... -Original Message- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 1:01 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Gallup...oops They were biased because they did not show his guy was going to

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-06 Thread Larry C. Lyons
In other words, he thinks he is entitled to his own facts, as well as his own opinion. What an entitlement junkie. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > They were biased because they did not show his guy was going to win, > regardless of the fact that his guy did not win. > >

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-06 Thread Scott Stroz
They were biased because they did not show his guy was going to win, regardless of the fact that his guy did not win. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Sam how were the polls biased? According to the definition of statistical > bias > > A statistic

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-06 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Sam how were the polls biased? According to the definition of statistical bias A statistic is *biased* if it is calculated in such a way that is systematically different from the population parameter of

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-06 Thread Scott Stroz
Right, so you are saying that the polls that correctly predicted President Obama would win were flawed, but the single poll that incorrectly predicted Gov. Romney would win was not flawed. Perfect 'Sam Logic' there. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Sam wrote: > > I'll type slower this time. >

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-06 Thread Sam
come on, you can't be arguing over this and not know anything about it can you? Yeah you can, nevermind. . On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Nice story, any citations for that? Its nice making all those assertions > (you'd think it was a TDD exercise) but you still ha

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-06 Thread Sam
Kind of like shooting someone and missing, but hitting a branch above their head causing it to fall and kill them. Inaccurate but correct. . On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Sam wrote: > I'll type slower this time. > > The sample was biased. > > Last minute decisions by the conservative base

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-06 Thread Sam
I'll type slower this time. The sample was biased. Last minute decisions by the conservative base to not show up changed the results. No polls accounted for it. The the biased polls were correct but for the wrong reasons. So yes they were inaccurate. Kind of like shooting someone and missing,

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-06 Thread Larry C. Lyons
We could be seeing a birth of a new Republican meme here. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > So, again, the 'left leaning' polls that correctly predicted the President > would win were 'inaccurate', while the single poll that incorrectly > predicted Gov. Romney would win wa

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-06 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Nice story, any citations for that? Its nice making all those assertions (you'd think it was a TDD exercise) but you still have to back them up Sam. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Sam wrote: > > I will try again. The left leaning polls over sampled dems by using the > high turnout of dems fr

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-06 Thread Scott Stroz
So, again, the 'left leaning' polls that correctly predicted the President would win were 'inaccurate', while the single poll that incorrectly predicted Gov. Romney would win was accurate. That makes perfect sense. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Sam wrote: > > I will try again. The left lea

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-05 Thread Judah McAuley
And who among the major polling firms presupposed an 11 point Democratic turnout advantage in their model? On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Let me see if I got this right: the polls that correctly predicted the > President winning were 'left leaning', but the one poll tha

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-05 Thread Sam
I will try again. The left leaning polls over sampled dems by using the high turnout of dems from 2008. That was rare and unlikely. The dems actually showed up in lower numbers. However, since so few R's voted the polls were right in the end. This is not due to them being correct, just dumb luck t

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-05 Thread Scott Stroz
Let me see if I got this right: the polls that correctly predicted the President winning were 'left leaning', but the one poll that incorrectly predicted Gov. Romney winning was accurate? On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Sam wrote: > > But, the polls had 11+ D and more independents than normal.

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-05 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I love this." "I may have been wrong...but it's ONLY BECAUSE THE REST OF YOU ARE IDIOTS!" As usual, you're making an assumption. I didn't say voting for Romney was the right thing to do. It's just what I thought people would do since Obama did such a horrendous job. You're also assuming willi

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-05 Thread Sam
But, the polls had 11+ D and more independents than normal. This was to mimic the high D turnout in 2008 which wasn't likely. However, the extremely low R turnout gave them the correct numbers after all. I believe that's because Romney told voters he was the same as Obama in the last debate. .

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-05 Thread Judah McAuley
CNN exit polls from 2012: http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president Voting break down by party: Democrats: 38% Republicans: 32% Independents: 29% So, yes, a 6% advantage in D vs R voting. And then Registered Voters via Pew: http://www.people-press.org/2012/08/23/a-closer-look-at-

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-05 Thread Sam
There was around a 10 point difference but the sample differences where in the 30 point range. I'm guessing / exaggerating because I don't feel like looking it up but you get the idea. . On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > To expand when doing statistical sampling you wan

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-05 Thread Sam
Not necessarily idiots. Just not interested or too trusting in the media to realize there's a problem. . On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:30 AM, GMoney wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > > > > "They mentioned that the 'correct' polls showed Romney winning." > > > > I

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'll have to dig it up again. From what I remember it was self-identified. But here's Gallup report on it (yes I'll use Gallup) http://www.gallup.com/poll/151943/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx This came out Jan 2012 based on 2011 data. So this survey may be good as an estimator

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-05 Thread GMoney
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Very large scale surveys and the census have > indicated that there are more Democratic than Republican voters. > I was a little bit surprised to hear that. Larry, are you talking about REGISTERED voters, or people who actually cast votes

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
To expand when doing statistical sampling you want a representative sample of the overall population. Very large scale surveys and the census have indicated that there are more Democratic than Republican voters. What you would want - equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans, is a false equivale

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-05 Thread Larry C. Lyons
No Jerry that is demographics. You know how the over all population is made up of? On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "I remember Jerry and Sam proselytizing that the polls were biased to the > Democrats. They said that the majority of people questioned were > Democrats, a

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-05 Thread GMoney
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "They mentioned that the 'correct' polls showed Romney winning." > > I don't know who "they" is. I didn't mention any correct polls. > > > I'll admit I thought Romney would win. I underestimated the willingness of > Americans to except an

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-04 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I remember Jerry and Sam proselytizing that the polls were biased to the Democrats. They said that the majority of people questioned were Democrats, and so the polls were all skewed." The internals for these polls showed over and over again a larger percentage of Democrats than Republicans. Tha

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-04 Thread Sam
The IRS has been cleansing the Tea Party for years. . On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:03 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Partisans following an election loss are hilarious in their postmortem's. > > Without fail, they feel they lost because they weren't partisan enough. > > Independents can only shake their h

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-04 Thread GMoney
Partisans following an election loss are hilarious in their postmortem's. Without fail, they feel they lost because they weren't partisan enough. Independents can only shake their heads with bemusement, and wonder if they will be voting Democratic again next election because the GOP actually lis

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-04 Thread Larry C. Lyons
FWIW Nate Silver had a pretty good explanation of why the polls were not biased. http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/03/nov-2-for-romney-to-win-state-polls-must-be-statistically-biased/ http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/nov-1-the-simple-case-for-saying-obama-is-the-

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-04 Thread Scott Stroz
Not talking about who won or lost or why - talking about the polls themselves. The company that runs the ONLY poll that gave Romney a lead just admitted that their methodology was flawed and inaccurate...yet you still argue. Nice to know some things in life will never change. On Tue, Jun 4, 20

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-04 Thread Sam
The polls are left leaning but that's not the issue. Romney lost because he agreed with Obama's foreign policy in the last debate. Many conservatives originally willing to hold their noses and vote for him gave up and stayed home because of that. . On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Scott Stroz

Re: Gallup...oops

2013-06-04 Thread Vivec
BS they were pushing for Romney to win the last election lol. The incorrect polling was a part of that strategy, in my view. They were just doing their part to assist the Republicans and ensure Obama didn't get re-elected. I am surprised they came out and said anything at all, because I am not s

Gallup...oops

2013-06-04 Thread Scott Stroz
Maybe the polls are not 'left leaning' after all? http://usat.ly/10OnOsf -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder what the f*&k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris http://xkcd.com/386/ ~~

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-26 Thread Dana
Original Message- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 8:56 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for > Extra Scrutiny in 2012 > > > Why didn't the simple fact that this man was

RE: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-25 Thread Eric Roberts
PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012 Why didn't the simple fact that this man was coming straight out of the Chicago machine make all of this the obvious tactical result of this administration? On May 24, 2013 9:50 PM

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-24 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Why didn't the simple fact that this man was coming straight out of the Chicago machine make all of this the obvious tactical result of this administration?" It was obvious to plenty of people. Not enough to change the outcomes of two elections. But if things were different, we would have John

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-24 Thread LRS Scout
Why didn't the simple fact that this man was coming straight out of the Chicago machine make all of this the obvious tactical result of this administration? On May 24, 2013 9:50 PM, "Jerry Barnes" wrote: > > Now The Gibson Guitar Raids Make Sense > > The inexplicable raid nearly two years ago on

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-24 Thread Jerry Barnes
Now The Gibson Guitar Raids Make Sense The inexplicable raid nearly two years ago on a guitar maker for using allegedly illegal wood that its competitors also used was another targeting by this administration of its political enemies. On Aug. 24, 2011, federal agents executed four search warrant

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"The blind belief and obedience of the die hard party bots on both sides has been sickening. Watching one corrupt man question another corrupt man does nothing for me." Let me now … warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally. This spirit,

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread LRS Scout
eeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > > > Did Obama appoint him? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:sor...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:22 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: Re: Oops: Th

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread Bruce Sorge
To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra > Scrutiny in 2012 > > > BLAME BUSH!!! > > Sent from my iPhone 4S. > > On May 21, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Eric Roberts > wrote: > >> >> you meant h

RE: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
Did Obama appoint him? -Original Message- From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:sor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012 BLAME BUSH!!! Sent from my iPhone 4S. On

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread LRS Scout
The blind belief and obedience of the die hard party bots on both sides has been sickening. Watching one corrupt man question another corrupt man does nothing for me. On May 21, 2013 5:52 PM, "C. Hatton Humphrey" wrote: > > Nope, Lois Lerner. Google her, once you get through the bevy of po

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Nope, Lois Lerner. Google her, once you get through the bevy of posts about today's news you'll find some rather interesting reading. On May 21, 2013 4:34 PM, "Eric Roberts" wrote: > > you meant he guy that was appointed by Bush? > > > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > >

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread Bruce Sorge
BLAME BUSH!!! Sent from my iPhone 4S. On May 21, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > you meant he guy that was appointed by Bush? > > > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > >> >> Keep'm rolling. >> >> Top IRS official will invoke 5th Amendment >> >> A top

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread Eric Roberts
you meant he guy that was appointed by Bush? On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Keep'm rolling. > > Top IRS official will invoke 5th Amendment > > A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will > invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer quest

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
Keep'm rolling. Top IRS official will invoke 5th Amendment A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups. Loi

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread Marlon Moyer
I suspect it had more to do with the infamous "Now watch this drive" quote. On May 21, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > . He also gave up golf > after 9/11 for the same reason. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Antholog

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Did you pay this attention to how the President travels when a Republican president was in office? What are you comparing this to?" Actually, I didn't. But I did recently read an analysis of Bushes vacations versus Obamas. According to what I read, Bush did not take big, fancy vacations becaus

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread Vivec
Did you pay this attention to how the President travels when a Republican president was in office? What are you comparing this to? Because we already know that you were off base on the umbrella issue...could you be off base on this as well? On 21 May 2013 12:50, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Where

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Where do you think Michelle's taking the kids on the jet this long weekend? " The Mediterranean. Remember that time the Obamas vacationed in Hawaii. Michelle and the daughters took one plane and an hour later President Obama took AF1? No need to inconvenience her or save money by waiting an h

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread Sam
Yawn... Where do you think Michelle's taking the kids on the jet this long weekend? . On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > It's one chart topping hit after another from the most transparant, > whistleblower supporting administration ever: > > IRS targeted conservative co

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-21 Thread Jerry Barnes
It's one chart topping hit after another from the most transparant, whistleblower supporting administration ever: IRS targeted conservative college interns The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) demanded information about conservative groups’ college-aged interns, prompting outrage from one of the

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-20 Thread Jerry Barnes
At some point, even the most ardent Obamabot's bullshit meter has to be redlining. I wonder if they just go into fantasy mode and just start saying "It's Bush's fault." Senior W.H. staff knew of IRS investigation, did not tell Obama Senior White House staff knew of the ongoing investigation in

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-20 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Nixon not only was aware of what was going on, he instigated most ofit. IF it is found that Obama did that, then yes, he deserves the same as Nixon." It seems you have a hidden assumption here, though I doubt it was intentional. You seem to be implying that the minimum misconduct to warrant im

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-19 Thread Maureen
Nixon not only was aware of what was going on, he instigated most of it. IF it is found that Obama did that, then yes, he deserves the same as Nixon. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:14 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > Then should the same thing that happened to Nixon happen to Obama? ~

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Its very much tit for tat partisan politics as usual, which does not excuse it our mean we should allow it to pass unremarked. " It is inexcusable regardless of party control. The IRS should not be the brown shirts of any administration. Abolish the income tax and go to a national sales tax.

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Then should the same thing that happened to Nixon happen to Obama?" Of course. President O'Biden. Outstanding entertainment value. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-18 Thread Sam
Is that a really bad joke or are you that ignorant? . On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Eric Roberts < > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > ...and where was Jerry's a

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-18 Thread LRS Scout
I'd really like the re to be an investigation of the VA as well. I kniw individuals who have absolutely held and used my politics against me to almost soviet and chicom proportions. On May 18, 2013 1:14 PM, "C. Hatton Humphrey" wrote: > > Then should the same thing that happened to Nixon happen

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-18 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Then should the same thing that happened to Nixon happen to Obama? http://washingtonexaminer.com/flashback-nixons-articles-of-impeachment-included-irs-scandal/article/2529560 Time’s Joe Klein wrote that the IRS scandal places President Obama “on the same page as Richard Nixon.” How so? Well, the

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-18 Thread LRS Scout
Its very much tit for tat partisan politics as usual, which does not excuse it our mean we should allow it to pass unremarked. Or unprosecuted. The incessent internecine bickering and bitching of both sides and their hypocrisy is making me ill. None of them seem truly interested in the union an

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-18 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Its a longer history than that. The Republicans have a long record of using government agencies for their own uses. For instance going back to Nixon's enemy list and his use of IRS audits, or Ronnie Raygun's directing the FBI to investigate peaceful ant-war groups, or Bush I directing the state de

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-18 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:06 AM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > ...and where was Jerry's and his fellow faux patriots outrage when they > targeted liberal groups under the Bush administration? BTW...the guy Obama > fired was the commissioner appointed by Bush... > Ho

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
More and more chicanery at the IRS is being exposed and it is beginning to look like the administration knew all about it. The Treasury Department’s inspector general told senior Treasury officials in June 2012 he was investigating the Internal Revenue Service’s screening of politically active

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-17 Thread Eric Roberts
...and where was Jerry's and his fellow faux patriots outrage when they targeted liberal groups under the Bush administration? BTW...the guy Obama fired was the commissioner appointed by Bush... On May 10, 2013 10:39 AM, "Jerry Barnes" wrote: > > And in the "No Shit Sherlock" category: > > IRS

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-17 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Then there's the suit being filed against the IRS for seizing medical records for 10,000,000 patients while carrying out a warrant related to a former employee of the company, despite warnings that their actions were not covered by the warrant nor were any of the records pertinent to their investi

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
It's getting better. The IRS was sending information about some of these groups to third party organizations and acknowledges that it wasn't supposed to. IRS sent unpublished info on conservative groups to investigative news outfit ProPublica, a left-leaning nonprofit organization that doesin

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
Damn. This is getting disturbing. Certainly not surprising, but disturbing none the less. 05/13/2013 The Internal Revenue Service wrote to the Richmond Tea Party last year demanding to know the names of all its financial donors and volunteers, as part of a 55-question inquisition into its app

Re: Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-16 Thread Jerry Barnes
Many Obamabots and Progressive Statists Zealots have no problem with the IRS targeting Patriot groups and Tea-Party Groups. It might ruffle their feathers if the IRS ever started targeting the Tides Foundation or MoveOn.org, but anyone on the other side of the aisle is fair game to special attent

Oops: The IRS Target Conservative and Tea Party Groups for Extra Scrutiny in 2012

2013-05-10 Thread Jerry Barnes
And in the "No Shit Sherlock" category: IRS APOLOGIZES FOR TARGETING CONSERVATIVE GROUPS ( http://bigstory.ap.org/article/irs-apologizes-targeting-conservative-groups) The Internal Revenue Service is apologizing for inappropriately flagging conservative political groups for additional reviews du

FW: Oops!

2012-11-16 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Taliban Accidentally Reveal Identities of Their Mailing List Members http://abcnews.go.com/International/taliban-accidentally-reveal-identities-mailing-list-members/story?id=17737950#.UKax0uOe-5b ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion An

Re: Oops....

2012-11-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
get sold to companies that then resell them in the third world. A buddy of mine is with the State department in Africa. He sent me a few photos about 6 years ago showing all these people buying these John Kerry t-shirts in Uganda. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solut

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2012-11-08 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
depends on who prints them. I have bought some on the streets of boston outside events immediately after losing bids. 2 bucks for a decent tshirt or hat. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > What happens to all the c

Re: Oops....

2012-11-08 Thread Scott Stroz
They are typically sent to poor countries. Like the '19-0' shirts from 2007 http://blog.epromos.com/images/super-bowl-shirts-patriots-19-0.jpg On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > What happens to all the championshi

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2012-11-08 Thread Jerry Barnes
"What happens to all the championship t-shirts, hats and stuff that get printed for the loosing teams?" The "loosing" team probably gives them to the salvation army or goodwill. Or they hide them with all of the Atari 2600 ET cartridges. J - Every immigrant who comes here should be required w

Re: Oops....

2012-11-08 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
What happens to all the championship t-shirts, hats and stuff that get printed for the loosing teams? On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > You mean like this one: > > http://emergingcritic.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/34569547.jpg > ~~

Re: Oops....

2012-11-08 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You mean like this one: http://emergingcritic.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/34569547.jpg On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Not meant as political commentary > > Who here has never pushed something to production that should not be there? > > http://gizmodo.com/5958827/rom

Re: Oops....

2012-11-08 Thread Scott Stroz
WowI had not seen that one before. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Sam wrote: > > Remember this one? > > http://www.darryl.com/guilty.html > > . > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > Not meant as political commentary > > > > Who here has never pushed somethi

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2012-11-08 Thread Sam
Remember this one? http://www.darryl.com/guilty.html . On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Not meant as political commentary > > Who here has never pushed something to production that should not be there? > > http://gizmodo.com/5958827/romney-staffers-publish-sad-victor

Oops....

2012-11-08 Thread Scott Stroz
Not meant as political commentary Who here has never pushed something to production that should not be there? http://gizmodo.com/5958827/romney-staffers-publish-sad-victory-website-by-mistake -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can

Re: OOPS!

2012-02-01 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
Maybe THESE are the birth control we should make Catholic hospitals buy. They cannot object morally to being forced to buy birth control that doesn't work, can they? On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Just in time for Valentines Day! It's the gift that keeps on giving... >

Re: OOPS!

2012-02-01 Thread Judah McAuley
Just in time for Valentines Day! It's the gift that keeps on giving... Judah On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/birth-control-pills-that-may-not-work-recalled-1 > > Birth control pills that may not work recalled > > Pfizer Inc. is recall

Re: OOPS!

2012-02-01 Thread Cameron Childress
Does this make Pfizer the "baby daddy" for any kids that result from this slip-up? Talk about child support payments -Cameron On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/birth-control-pills-that-may-not-work-recalled-1 > > Birth control pill

OOPS!

2012-02-01 Thread Larry C. Lyons
http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/birth-control-pills-that-may-not-work-recalled-1 Birth control pills that may not work recalled Pfizer Inc. is recalling one million packets of birth control pills because of a packaging error that could leave women with an inadequate dose of the hormone-based

Re: Oops! US gives $360 million to Taliban, other enemies.

2011-08-18 Thread Vivec
This is so true! And probably is the reason for continued conflict in many areas of the world. On 18 August 2011 11:42, Jerry Barnes wrote: > Congress is examining the problem. Rep. John Tierney, D-Mass. explained, " > When war becomes good business for the insurgents, it is all the more > diffi

Oops! US gives $360 million to Taliban, other enemies.

2011-08-18 Thread Jerry Barnes
Oops! US gives $360 million to Taliban, other enemies. Excerpt: A careful audit of combat support and reconstruction contracts reveals that at least $360 million in US tax dollars has gone to fund the Taliban and terrorist operations in Afghanistan. Corrupt contractors and subcontractors are

Oops. Global Warming's Back

2011-07-29 Thread Grussgott
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2011/07/29/no-new-data-does-not-blow-a-gaping-hole-in-global-warming-alarmism/ Sent from my iPad ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-

Re: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch [PG-13 (language)]

2011-03-09 Thread denstar
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: ... > If there's one law that always hold true it's that unsustainable things > cannot be sustained. LOL! "How much longer can this go on?" "It's unsustainable" "In general, or... like, it /is/ going on right now, neh?" "Well, yeah, but, like, no

Re: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch

2011-03-02 Thread Gruss Gott
Judah McAuley wrote: > > Debt interest is not the same thing as Medicare which is not the same > thing as Social Security. They are three totally different problems > with totally different solutions and Social Security hardly counts as > even a pressing problem. > > Well, we all have our own ac

Re: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch

2011-03-02 Thread Gruss Gott
G Money wrote: > > This post pretty much echoes his first post on this list many years > agobut of course the date of doom was much closer to 2011 back then. > Now > that it's 2011, the date of doom has been pushed back to 2025. When 2025 > comes along, and America is still humming along, im

Re: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch

2011-03-02 Thread G Money
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > It's a horrible situation and one that's not going to be easy to fix: By > 2025 US entitlements and debt interest will exceed our entire revenue. > That's not much more than a decade away. > > The bottom line is that we're broke. > > The cur

RE: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch

2011-03-01 Thread Eric Roberts
percentage of the budget that goes to paying just interest on our debt, but it is a pretty good sized chunk. Eric -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 20:02 To: cf-community Subject: Re: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch On Tue

RE: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch

2011-03-01 Thread Eric Roberts
t: Re: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch Eric Roberts wrote: > > Prior to having private for profit hospitals, the hospitals were > usually run by religious groups and other non-profits > > It's a horrible situation and one that's not going to be easy to fix: By 2025 US

Re: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch

2011-03-01 Thread Judah McAuley
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Eric Roberts wrote: > >> >> Prior to having private for profit hospitals, the hospitals were usually >> run >> by religious groups and other non-profits >> >> > It's a horrible situation and one that's not going to be easy to fix:  By > 2025

Re: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch

2011-03-01 Thread Gruss Gott
Eric Roberts wrote: > > Prior to having private for profit hospitals, the hospitals were usually > run > by religious groups and other non-profits > > It's a horrible situation and one that's not going to be easy to fix: By 2025 US entitlements and debt interest will exceed our entire revenue.

RE: Oops! Wis Gov Thinks Caller is Koch

2011-02-28 Thread Eric Roberts
sick she has to go to the ER. I do know how much we owe...I don't think I want to know how much we owe. Looks like bankruptcy is around the corner for us. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 00:09 To: cf-community Subject

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