Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

"Do I think we would be better off without term limits? Possibly, but things are so bad now that we need drastic action to improve." That's where I was heading. California seems to be so far past the tipping point that it's too late for political reform. Like you said, the only hope is federal

Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

Actually, the one procedural thing that works in this state is the requirement for a budget to pass with a 2/3 vote rather than a simple majority. It has prevented the Democrats from enacting massive tax hikes that would wipe out what's left of the economy. Do I think we would be better off witho

Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

Robert, Do you think things would better in CA without term limits? Just curious. Also, doesn't CA have a system in place where it's hard for anyone to actually do anything, regardless of party? The system is f'd up, running on inertia, and there is too much partisanship to fix it? On 8/20/10

Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

California has term limits, and look at the sh!t we're in. I don't like having a bunch of corrupt old fools in Congress either, but I don't think term limits are the way to deal with the problem. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > Nancy and Harry are shining examples of why

Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

"Personally I think we need to do something about Congressional pensions before we look at term limits. Otherwise we'll have this beast of a budget problem in the form of hundreds of former congressmen who were only replaced by more congressmen we have to pay for the rest of their lives because of

RE: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

cause of term limits. Both are things that need looked at. -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:23 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Jerry Barnes

Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

"By your logic, it would only eliminate the mid-term pandering when a representative was at the very end of their term limit. Up til then, they are running for office again. " Which is better than what we have now. "So unless you limit them to one term in one chamber, I don't think you'll elimi

Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Term limits don't eliminate crazy, pandering or power hungry, they just > shuffle the pieces on the board. " > > Maybe to some extent.  But term limits would also eliminate mid term > pandering like Harry and Nancy are engaging in.  The r

Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

"I used to be in favor of term limits but as I thought about it more, I realized that idiots are just idiots." Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself. - Mark Twain "Michele Bachmann is one of the craziest people in Congress (and that's saying a

Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > Nancy and Harry are shining examples of why we need term limits.  No need to > tap dance if you don't need to spend your whole term preparing for the next > election. I used to be in favor of term limits but as I thought about it more, I r

Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

"...so why investigate?" Like any politician, dhe was just trying to score political points with some faction and miscalculated the blow back. Fortunately, some enterprising "pajama media" types found the statement and shared with all of us. Nancy and Harry are shining examples of why we need

Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Actually, she called for the investigation of both sides. The > Washington Times, of course, is going to cherry pick. I think her > position is ridiculous and the tap dancing that she and Harry Reid are > doing is shameful. Not one of Pel

Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

"Actually, she called for the investigation of both sides" You're right. She did. The next day. The first call was one sided only. Then the shit storm hit and she had to back track. The call to investigate all those relatives and friends of the victims of the 9-11 terrorist attack didn't pan

Re: Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

Actually, she called for the investigation of both sides. The Washington Times, of course, is going to cherry pick. I think her position is ridiculous and the tap dancing that she and Harry Reid are doing is shameful. Not one of Pelosi's more shining moments in my opinion. Judah On Wed, Aug 18,

Pelosi Adds Fuel to the Mosque Fire.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, called for an investigation of those who are protesting the building of the ground zero mosque on Tuesday. She told San Francisco's KCBS radio: