Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-29 Thread Jeffry Houser
At 09:04 PM 2/29/2004, you wrote: >Subject: Priestly sexual abuse statistics >From: dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:24:36 -0400 >Thread: >http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm/method=messages&threadid=11823&forumid=5#107378

Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-29 Thread dana tierney
um usually when people identify themselves as "christian" -- as opposed to prebyterian or baptist --- there are other things that go along with that, like believing that catholics worship statues. I don't know your wife of course; just making hte point that the flip side of this is that the catholi

Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
You are correct sir. The story goes that the Torah was offered to all the peoples of the world and each rejected it for one reason or another. The Jews accepted it and as such have it as their burden and legacy. It has kept us alive for thousands of years and made us the target of hate for as long.

Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
>  - Original Message - >  From: Ben Braver >  To: CF-Community >  Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 4:24 PM >  Subject: Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics > > >  Doug, I think you misunderstand the word "chosen". >  At a time of polytheism and lawlessness, the

Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread Doug White
Quite possibly that is the case, I am much more proficient in the IT world than I am in the theological one.   - Original Message -   From: Ben Braver   To: CF-Community   Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 4:24 PM   Subject: Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics   Doug, I think you

Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
Doug, I think you misunderstand the word "chosen". At a time of polytheism and lawlessness, the Jews were the people chosen to *bear the burden* of obeying moral laws, i.e. the 613 Mitzvot (commandments). So, this wasn't being singled out as favorites... Hence the old joke "would you mind choosing

Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
   > From: Ben Braver    > To: CF-Community    > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:49 PM    > Subject: Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics > >    > My wife, who is *very* Christian, says the Catholic church    > does a lot of things which are not a true part of the

Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread Jeff Garza
en Braver   To: CF-Community   Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:49 PM   Subject: Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics   My wife, who is *very* Christian, says the Catholic church   does a lot of things which are not a true part of the faith.   Patrick, I think you're right.   Hmmm, if

Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread Doug White
Actually the 4th son of an Independent Baptist Preacher Raised with that theology and turned a corner after 4 years of theology classes as electives when going to the University for my IT degree. I now have the feeling that errors in translation are being perpetuated by the Christian Theological S

Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
My wife, who is *very* Christian, says the Catholic church does a lot of things which are not a true part of the faith. Patrick, I think you're right. Hmmm, if they are supposed to abstain, maybe today when it gets really stiff and painful the priests should take Celebrex. ;-) -Ben >yes I think

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2004-02-27 Thread Harkins, Patrick
I have to side with Ben on this one. I think that the celibate "married to God" lifestyle is unnatural. Put that together with the "cult of the body" in Christianity and you're playing with fire in my opinion. -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley I dont know i think jerking off solves

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2004-02-27 Thread Harkins, Patrick
crapola. sorry, wish I could. If I tell the "dogs from hell" that I am subscribed to this list they won't be happy, so there's no way they will whitelist cf-community. :-( -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley LOL damn you and your possible spam :P whitelist us :> Outbound email scanne

RE: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread Harkins, Patrick
yes I think in the original, God said "celebrate" not "celibate". Ah the subtleties of language! :-) -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer my guess would be it's the whole celibacy issue (which just ain't natural). Outbound email scanned for viruses. (e232) [Todays Threads] [This M

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2004-02-27 Thread Bill Wheatley
age- From: Harkins, Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 4:09 PM To: CF-Community Subject: [possible spam] RE: Priestly sexual abuse statistics "Every sperm is sacred, Every sperm is great! If a sperm gets wasted, God gets quite irate!"  Monty Python. :-)

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2004-02-27 Thread Bill Wheatley
Friday, February 27, 2004 2:27 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics Bill- I disagree that the numbers are comparable. Rabbis, Protestant ministers, and I think Muslim immams get to have normal lives - marry, have sex, have kids, etc. Catholic priests are supposed to be t

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2004-02-27 Thread Bill Wheatley
. 159 F: (954) 360-9095 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.ediets.com -Original Message- From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 3:01 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics The most offensive of it all is the organized cover-up of

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2004-02-27 Thread Harkins, Patrick
"Every sperm is sacred, Every sperm is great! If a sperm gets wasted, God gets quite irate!"  Monty Python. :-) -Original Message- From: Bill Wheatley Yea but that's what whacking the pud is for :> Outbound email scanned for viruses. (e230) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscrip

RE: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread Bill Wheatley
ary 27, 2004 2:46 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics i'd still wager that the number of catholic priests who do is rather disproprtionate with the number of other rabbis, muslims, boy scout leaders, etc who molest boys. my guess would be it's the whole

Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread Ben Braver
iginal Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 11:48 AM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Priestly sexual abuse statistics > > >The report today about over 4,000 Catholic priests abusing over 10,000 >boys indicates there may be

Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread Doug White
ubject: Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics   i'd still wager that the number of catholic priests who do is rather   disproprtionate with the number of other rabbis, muslims, boy scout leaders,   etc who molest boys.   my guess would be it's the whole celibacy issue (whic

Re: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread Charlie Griefer
"Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 12:22 PM Subject: RE: Priestly sexual abuse statistics > Just keep it all in perspective i'm sure there are plenty of jewish > rabis (sp) and muslim

RE: Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread Bill Wheatley
11:48 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Priestly sexual abuse statistics The report today about over 4,000 Catholic priests abusing over 10,000 boys indicates there may be a serious phonetic problem - the priests thought they were supposed to preside over holey cum-union. /me apologizes if this offends a

Priestly sexual abuse statistics

2004-02-27 Thread bbraver_cf
The report today about over 4,000 Catholic priests abusing over 10,000 boys indicates there may be a serious phonetic problem - the priests thought they were supposed to preside over holey cum-union. /me apologizes if this offends anyone /me feeling more Friday punny than usual today, sowwies...