hehe. Gotta run, we're doing a demo :P
>On 5/4/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I definitely care. What I don't do is understand is what Gruss is all
>> upset about.
>>
>> Dana
>>
>>
>He just found out they canceled "Gillmore Girls"give the guy a break.
>
>--
>I knew the mome
Santa Fe Community College offers them. I am not sure how they are funded or
how prevalent they are at other instution. I work for Title V/Distance
Education/Professional Development and mostly do web stuff but I handle pretty
much anything that walks in the door. If Scott's neighbor arrived the
http://www.sstwebworks.com
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From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:43 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
Not at all.
Part of what I actually do it outreach to people to say hey you know what we
have free En
On 5/4/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I definitely care. What I don't do is understand is what Gruss is all
> upset about.
>
> Dana
>
>
He just found out they canceled "Gillmore Girls"give the guy a break.
--
I knew the moment had arrived, for killing the past and coming back
On 5/4/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Not at all.
>
> Part of what I actually do it outreach to people to say hey you know what
> we have free English classes!
>
So we DO have taxpayer paid free english classes?
Good...need more of it, needs to be almost required (strongly, stron
Va. 22152
>(703) 220-2835
>
>http://www.sstwebworks.com
>
>-Original Message-
>From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:47 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
>*shrug*
>
>any poor soul unlucky enough to be
Society does, the inability for people to communicate in their own
neighborhood is a bad thing.
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> My fundamental point however is this. In all of your examples, who
> suffers the consequences?
>
iday, May 04, 2007 11:30 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
>I'm not telling you you need to learn his language. Though I don't think it
>would hurt you to try.
>
>My fundamental point however is this. In all of your examples, who suffe
04, 2007 11:47 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
*shrug*
any poor soul unlucky enough to be vacationing in France without a full
grasp of the language?
On 5/4/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> and again, who suffers the consequences?
>
*shrug*
any poor soul unlucky enough to be vacationing in France without a full
grasp of the language?
On 5/4/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> and again, who suffers the consequences?
>
--
I knew the moment had arrived, for killing the past and coming back to life.
and again, who suffers the consequences?
>On 5/4/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> My mother never really learned to speak French, even though we lived in
>> France for years. Fortunately there were no silly-assed laws saying she
>> needed to do so to drive. My ex-landlord spoke ev
Actually it does say that, you're right. Hmm. I thought I read that there was
no official language. It must have been elsewhere. Something to research if
anyone has time I guess.
>> Scott
>> I don't think English has never been officially designated the "official"
>> language of the US.
>
>I to
ay 04, 2007 11:30 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
I'm not telling you you need to learn his language. Though I don't think it
would hurt you to try.
My fundamental point however is this. In all of your examples, who suffers
the consequences?
>Dana,
&
On 5/4/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My mother never really learned to speak French, even though we lived in
> France for years. Fortunately there were no silly-assed laws saying she
> needed to do so to drive. My ex-landlord spoke even less English than I do
> Spanish, but we man
#x27;t tell me it's up to me to learn his language
>--
>Scott Stewart
>ColdFusion Developer
>
>SSTWebworks
>7241 Jillspring Ct.
>Springfield, Va. 22152
>(703) 220-2835
>
>http://www.sstwebworks.com
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMA
://www.sstwebworks.com
>-Original Message-
>From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 8:28 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
>> Dana wrote:
>> how?
>>
>
>I think that's already been
not at all. This is a fundamental misunderstanding of what an offical language
does. Some application forms need to be translated. A speaker of the language
should be available at front-line government offices, such as reception at the
IRS office. De facto this already happens. And the going pay
On 5/4/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I'll gladly take a tax hit for that.
>
>
I won't, but I'd gladly axe some other ill conceived social welfare program
that is being exploited...and direct that money into a more productive and
worthy program like this.
--
I knew the moment had
> Scott
> I don't think English has never been officially designated the "official"
> language of the US.
I took that from Dana's wiki link which says that English is the
official language of the US. Could be wrong though.
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> gMoney wrote:
> Question: Do we currently have federally funded centers where recent
> immigrants can go to help learn the language for free? I think that would be
> a worthy program for all immigrants, and would remove any real excuse for a
> recent immigrant to NOT learn english.
>
I agree! T
o learn his language
--
Scott Stewart
ColdFusion Developer
SSTWebworks
7241 Jillspring Ct.
Springfield, Va. 22152
(703) 220-2835
http://www.sstwebworks.com
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From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:58 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: R
Scott Stewart
ColdFusion Developer
SSTWebworks
7241 Jillspring Ct.
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(703) 220-2835
http://www.sstwebworks.com
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 8:28 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
Yeah, its like the Statue of Liberty says: "Give us your tired, your poor,
your english speaking huddled masses".
Do I think immigrants should learn english? Hell yes, for their own good if
they want to succeed here. But in no way do I think we should somehow try to
tie that in as a mandate fo
> Dana wrote:
> how?
>
I think that's already been addressed, but one way is that it now
means that every single government document could be requested in
NewLanguage which would, by itself, would cost billions.
As for making anyone who comes to the US learn english, yeah, they
should, because:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:32 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
> I guess I don't see that the current situation is causing any problems.
> It is not currently a requirement and I am utterly unaware of any bad
&
how?
>and adding a language increases gov't so I oppose it.
by the way the discussion has been much more about these people need to learn
English than about making Spanish an official language, which is definitely not
happening at the federal level anytime soon
> Dana wrote:
> when I see people frothing at the mouth about the enormous cost
I could care less myself as long as there's no excuse to increase
taxes or bureaucracy (which go hand-n-hand). Small gov't is my motto
and adding a language increases gov't so I oppose it.
~~~
Gruss, I have not advocated making Spanish an official language so you are
completely beside the point. I really don't care much about this either way,
but when I see people frothing at the mouth about the enormous cost of not
requiring everyone to speak English, my bullshit detector goes off, t
I posted a list. There are quite a few. Many countries have several.
>China - Mandarin
>
>
>Vivec wrote:
>> Which countries have set an 'official' language?
>>
>>
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I guess I don't see that the current situation is causing any problems. It is
not currently a requirement and I am utterly unaware of any bad consequences of
this. Sounds like it's not broke to me.
> Don't know about where you live but in Northern California the Amber
> Alert type programmable
welp -- when I worked in DC they would put a note on stuff that as in the hall
for whatever reason -- no es basura.
>Try explaining the difference between recycling and trash
>
>Dana Tierney wrote:
>>
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not a damn thing -- just answered the question, i thought.
>Yeah? So.
>What you trying to prove?
>
>On 5/3/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_languages
>>
>> >Which countries have set an 'official' language?
~~~
China - Mandarin
Vivec wrote:
> Which countries have set an 'official' language?
>
>
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Don't know about where you live but in Northern California the Amber
Alert type programmable signs are used frequently. Especially during the
winter advising drivers (doing 65 mph down the freeway) of road
conditions ahead (chains required, severe conditions ahead, road closed
at ___, Pass clos
and both sides of the story, and any
> witnesses that were there.
>
> I don't give my information to the other person, I give it to the police
> officer.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:40 PM
&g
Try explaining the difference between recycling and trash
Dana Tierney wrote:
> I'm saying that if these people are janitors, who cares if they speak
> English? If you can show me how it's a legitimate job requirement, that's a
> different story.
>
>
>> You're defending the government for sui
> Dana wrote:
> I don't think it will affect your poor widdle taxes.
Well, my taxes aren't "widdle" due to the AMT, and of course it would
affect them.
Tell me the value to the US taxpayer in adding an additional official
language and, if there is value, I'll back you. (Make an NPV
argument; THA
Yeah? So.
What you trying to prove?
On 5/3/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_languages
>
> >Which countries have set an 'official' language?
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w can you hold somebody responsible that
>signed a contract not knowing what it said?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:08 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
>I speak tw
w can you hold somebody responsible that
>signed a contract not knowing what it said?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:08 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
>I speak tw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_languages
>Which countries have set an 'official' language?
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> Nick wrote:
> You consult a lawyer before reading a lease agreement on a car?
>
Chances are the lawyer won't understand the lease either. To
understand a car lease you need a finance expert who also understands
finance law.
I just went through this experience and we argued the facts of a Kia
l
to me in English.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:54 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
>ok so -- in what way is knowledge of English required to sort used
>clothes?
You consult a lawyer before reading a lease agreement on a car?
-Original Message-
From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:03 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
On 5/2/07, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 5/2/07, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As for legal documents, how can you hold somebody responsible that
signed a contract not knowing what it said?
That's why you consult a lawyer before signing a legal document...
Of course this said lawyer would speak English and your language so
If I'm the boss, the requirements include talking to me in English.
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From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:54 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
ok so -- in what way is knowledge of English requir
Yeah but this is Kentucky, we don't have much crime.
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From: Loathe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:22 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: English in America in trouble?
Good luck with that in MD.
The cops don't respond to car acci
t: Re: English in America in trouble?
Wow. And it's a gun-control state too, huh.
>Here failure to report an accident, any accident is a crime. In general
>moving the vehicles before the police get there is not accepted either.
>
>Insurance companies won't do much of any
6:08 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
I speak two fluently and two more badly but well enough to decipher
parts of a news article and understand answers to questions like what
time is the bus coming, how much is this food item, and where is the
restroom. I also took
TED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:13 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
>and your point?? Obviously it's a legitimate job requirement for an English
>teacher! Your example looks a little more dubious, but ok, there is public
>contact. What if t
ok so -- in what way is knowledge of English required to sort used clothes?
I've actually done that job for about a week once -- the main requirement as
far as I can tell is not being allergic to dust. It's mindnumbingly boring work
and anyone who would do it for six years, well, ya, they would
ay 02, 2007 6:13 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
and your point?? Obviously it's a legitimate job requirement for an English
teacher! Your example looks a little more dubious, but ok, there is public
contact. What if these guys are janitors though? I mean-- Salv
BTW, they were clothes sorters:
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_505139.html
Sounds like the SA wanted to help them and they refused. Lack of
motivation is good enough for me to get rid of them, but that's me.
On 5/2/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and your point??
Good luck with that in MD.
The cops don't respond to car accidents here unless there is an injury.
-Original Message-
From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:53 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: English in America in trouble?
First you call the
and your point?? Obviously it's a legitimate job requirement for an English
teacher! Your example looks a little more dubious, but ok, there is public
contact. What if these guys are janitors though? I mean-- Salvation Army --
what can you do for them without speaking English? THey apparently we
t, they rely on police to establish fault and get official stories
>at the time of the accident.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:51 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
pringfield, Va. 22152
>(703) 220-2835
>
>http://www.sstwebworks.com
>-Original Message-
>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:40 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
>you pull out your driver
http://jobs.faa.gov/SecurityScreeningRequirements.htm
U.S. Department of Transportation
Transportation Security Administration (TSA)
Screener Employment Eligibility Requirements
December 19, 2001
- Be able to read, speak, and write English well enough to:
Carry out written and oral instructions
the show, you can do what you want.
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From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:46 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
umm :) I spent considerable time in hotels in Texas after the flood, and
most of them managed to
time of the accident.
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From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:51 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
you asked about an accident on private property, presumably a fender
bender in a parking lot. I don&#
erson, I give it to the police
>officer.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:40 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
>you pull out your driver's license, registra
) 220-2835
http://www.sstwebworks.com
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From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:40 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
you pull out your driver's license, registration and insurance card? You
guys are m
umm :) I spent considerable time in hotels in Texas after the flood, and most
of them managed to vacuum quite well despite a lack of English.
As for legitimate rob requirements ::cough:: please tell me you don't have
hiring authority where you are. If you do, you might want to check with your
erney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:40 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
you pull out your driver's license, registration and insurance card? You
guys are making this hard to fit your
urt..
>
>--
>Scott Stewart
>ColdFusion Developer
>
>SSTWebworks
>7241 Jillspring Ct.
>Springfield, Va. 22152
>(703) 220-2835
>
>http://www.sstwebworks.com
>-Original Message-
>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007
Cleanup in isle three :)
On 5/2/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "limpieza en la isla tres."
>
> Huh?
>
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> http://www.sstwebworks.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:31 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
> Doesn't matter what the job is; if they can'
17 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
> I don't think so, Nick.
>
> >If I feel that programmers will respect a male project manager more
than
> >they will respect a f
ance staff here couldn't read or speak English
they wouldn't be able to do their jobs.
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:15 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
Doesn't matter what the job is; if they can't communicate with their
supervisor then they can't perform their job adequately. Businesses
should not be forced to hire a translator just to say "limpieza en la
isla tres."
May
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From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:21 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
you know -- when I was in Mexico I was well away from the border and nobody
spoke English. I speak the most rudimentary Spanish ima
Doesn't matter what the job is; if they can't communicate with their
supervisor then they can't perform their job adequately. Businesses
should not be forced to hire a translator just to say "limpieza en la
isla tres."
Maybe they should fire the supervisors for not learning all the
different the l
ommunity
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
I'm saying that if these people are janitors, who cares if they speak
English? If you can show me how it's a legitimate job requirement, that's a
different story.
>You're defending the government for suing a charity that gave t
you know -- when I was in Mexico I was well away from the border and nobody
spoke English. I speak the most rudimentary Spanish imaginable. I was still
able to buy food, film, and bus tickets. Sign language gors a very long way. If
you have an accident here, you are supposed to stop and exchange
you know -- when I was in Mexico I was well away from the border and nobody
spoke English. I speak the most rudimentary Spanish imaginable. I was still
able to buy food, film, and bus tickets. Sign language gors a very long way. If
you have an accident here, you are supposed to stop and exchange
I don't think so, Nick.
>If I feel that programmers will respect a male project manager more than
>they will respect a female project manager while I could be wrong, I can
>still do it.
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I'm saying that if these people are janitors, who cares if they speak English?
If you can show me how it's a legitimate job requirement, that's a different
story.
>You're defending the government for suing a charity that gave these
>people six years to learn English and they refused. Who's the t
Did you read it?
He says the government should stop suing businesses that ask employees
to speak English. You really spun that one around.
On 5/2/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On the contrary, Newt proposes that the government be in the business of
> having people speak English.
2007 3:30 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
> me either. The official language deal is a slippery slope argument and
> a bad one at that. I'm an agnostic on whether these particular workers
> should have been fired. If they were janitors o
igrated from Nova Scotia (New Scotland) to Southern Louisiana in
>
> > the
> > > mid to
> > > >late 1800's
> > > >
> > > >They brought their language and culture with them.
> > > >
> > > >--
> > > >Scott Stewa
Regarding this, if you get pulled over and cannot interact with the officer,
or if you are in accident and cannot interact with the other parties then
there is a problem.
Say you have an accident on private property, where police officers have no
jurisdiction, what do you do, how do you deal with
Well, in a private company you can. If part of the duties involve talk to me
then they are going to need to speak English.
If you want to hire a man because you feel they can better do the job you
can, you can be an ass when you own the company. It is your company.
If I feel that programmers wil
In the 80's I went to the information desk at Miami airport and they
only spoke Spanish.
On 5/2/07, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's the problem that I'm dealing with The US, while it has no
> official language, is a predominantly english speaking country. To a certain
> exten
You're defending the government for suing a charity that gave these
people six years to learn English and they refused. Who's the tabloid
thinker here?
On 5/2/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Sam. Missed ya. I used to always be able to count on your tabloid
> contributions ;)
~~
STWebworks
7241 Jillspring Ct.
Springfield, Va. 22152
(703) 220-2835
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From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:06 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
mmm... I am not sure. If you are
Hi Sam. Missed ya. I used to always be able to count on your tabloid
contributions ;)
> Did you read it?
> He says the government should stop suing businesses that ask
> employees
> to speak English. You really spun that one around.
>
>
> On 5/2/07, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
mmm... I am not sure. If you are saying you will only hire people who speak
English, even if this is not required to perform the job duties, it might be
discrimination. You aren't allowed to say we will only hire people who can
bench-press 150 pounds and use the men's room to manage software dev
me either. The official language deal is a slippery slope argument and a bad
one at that. I'm an agnostic on whether these particular workers should have
been fired. If they were janitors or even sorters, why is language a legitimate
job requirement? I might see it for front-line store clerks, d
I don't think it will affect your poor widdle taxes. I think if Rwanda can
manage, so can the US. And in any event -- I don't see any proposal out for a
second official language at the federal level.
On the contrary, Newt proposes that the government be in the business of having
people speak E
> there was an Irish colony in New Orleans at one point, but these are not the
> acadians.
true. The Irish arrived in New Orleans by many different means, some
were dropped there by ships that had promised passage to California,
some were dropped off after having left Ireland for New York. Some
s
t;SSTWebworks
> > >7241 Jillspring Ct.
> > >Springfield, Va. 22152
> > >(703) 220-2835
> > >
> > >http://www.sstwebworks.com
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Tuesday
Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:09 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
> You haven't read this entire thread then, or the Newt Gingrich rant
> that started it. The Salvation Army fired some workers for not
> Dana wrote:
> um... had I bothered with my high school transcripts (from France) they would
> have been translated at my expense. Not the taxpayer's.
Yes, but that's because English is the official language. If we
changed that to add in other languages then I would assume that the
government w
> Dana wrote:
> um... had I bothered with my high school transcripts (from France) they would
> have been translated at my expense. Not the taxpayer's. Apparently I did not
> make that clear.
>
> In my case, since it was not clear how much of it transferred and the
> questions was only did I hav
ok well, look at this though. I know nothing about this list, but there are
lots and lots of stories like this. You start to worry about what language
people are speaking and next thing you know you're busting a maker of Jewish
headstones for having Hebrew letters on his sign, and Chinese restau
according to this though, yer official document from Rwanda could also be in
French or Kinyarwanda. And I don't see that a school transcript actually needs
to be in an official language -- Bantu and Swahili are pretty big languages.
Rwanda, Rwandese Republic, Republika y'u Rwanda, former Ruanda
Utility service and several
>other things.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:41 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>>
>> some can&#
You haven't read this entire thread then, or the Newt Gingrich rant that
started it. The Salvation Army fired some workers for not learning English. The
language of the courts is one thing, but that isn't what Newt is talking about.
>I don't hear about that. I hear about the things that concern
ok bad example if so. Shall we say Sweden? :) I was just trying not to have all
my examples be from Europe. And I couldn't think how to spell Kyzyrkistan or
whatever it is. What do I know -- Turkey or China or Senegal. I think you see
my point.
>Considering English is an official language of Rw
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