Re: Iran’s Supreme Leader Praises U.S

2012-08-31 Thread GMoney
Hey, Endless Summer Nights is a great song. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Not gonna try to weasel my way out of that by saying I was working, > because I have been to a Richard Marx concert as a ticket holder. > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: >

Re: Iran’s Supreme Leader Praises U.S.

2012-08-30 Thread Scott Stroz
Not gonna try to weasel my way out of that by saying I was working, because I have been to a Richard Marx concert as a ticket holder. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Hell I got called there once for a fight at a Richard Marx concert." > > So, you admit going to a Richar

Re: Iran’s Supreme Leader Praises U.S._

2012-08-30 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Hell I got called there once for a fight at a Richard Marx concert." So, you admit going to a Richard Marx concert. J - Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation. - Henry Kissinger Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel, go ou

Re: Iran’s Supreme Leader Praises U.S._

2012-08-30 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Yea...that about sums it up. > > Funny, though, unlike other concerts, there was rarely violence. Hell > I got called there once for a fight at a Richard Marx concert. > Not that surprising. Weed mellows.

Re: Iran’s Supreme Leader Praises U.S. ‘O

2012-08-30 Thread Scott Stroz
Yea...that about sums it up. Funny, though, unlike other concerts, there was rarely violence. Hell I got called there once for a fight at a Richard Marx concert. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Sam wrote: > > Too many mushrooms and too much puke? > > . > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Scot

Re: Iran’s Supreme Leader Praises U.S. ‘O

2012-08-30 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
No, that was when Trey was still getting high. They needed extra paramedics just in case he collapsed on stage. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Sam wrote: > Too many mushrooms and too much puke? > > . > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > > When I was still a paramedic

Re: Iran’s Supreme Leader Praises U.S. ‘Occ

2012-08-30 Thread Sam
Too many mushrooms and too much puke? . On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > When I was still a paramedic, there was a open air amphitheater in our > coverage area. I hated working on the nights Phish was there. Some of > the busiest nights I had in my 14 year career. >

Re: Iran’s Supreme Leader Praises U.S. ‘Occup

2012-08-30 Thread Scott Stroz
When I was still a paramedic, there was a open air amphitheater in our coverage area. I hated working on the nights Phish was there. Some of the busiest nights I had in my 14 year career. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2

Re: Iran’s Supreme Leader Praises U.S. ‘Occup

2012-08-30 Thread GMoney
Sharin' in the Weekapaug Groove.. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Sam wrote: > > > Phish still tours? > > That explains why there was a OWS movement in the first pla

Re: Iran’s Supreme Leader Praises U.S. ‘Occupy_

2012-08-30 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Sam wrote: > Phish still tours? > That explains why there was a OWS movement in the first place. > The Phish and Dave Matthews Band tours are a whole ecosystem that don't care about OWS one way or the other, they are not protesters by any means. ~

Re: Iran’s Supreme Leader Praises U.S. ‘Occupy ’_

2012-08-30 Thread Sam
Phish still tours? That explains why there was a OWS movement in the first place. . On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Is that still going on? Now that Phish is back out on tour, i figured > all those people would have something else to do. > ~~~

Re: Iran’s Supreme Leader Praises U.S. ‘Occupy ’ Mo_

2012-08-30 Thread GMoney
Is that still going on? Now that Phish is back out on tour, i figured all those people would have something else to do. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Sam wrote: > > > http://cnsnews.com/news/article/iran-s-supreme-leader-praises-us-occupy-movement > > The Ayatollah Ali Khamenei – the “su

Re: Iran

2012-01-20 Thread Dana
there's an interesting idea On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:38 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions < ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Larry C. Lyons >wrote: > > > it wouldn't be the first time that the country dumped itself into debt > > over an u

Re: Iran

2012-01-20 Thread GMoney
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Sam wrote: > > > http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/01/19/bush_s_cia_director_we_determined_attacking_iran_was_a_bad_idea > > Looks like the Bush team ruled against it. Seems like what Hayden is > saying should still be confidential. > > > "It's not so

Re: Iran

2012-01-20 Thread Sam
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/01/19/bush_s_cia_director_we_determined_attacking_iran_was_a_bad_idea Looks like the Bush team ruled against it. Seems like what Hayden is saying should still be confidential. "It's not so much that we don't want Iran to have a nuclear capacity, it's

Re: Iran

2012-01-20 Thread Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > it wouldn't be the first time that the country dumped itself into debt > over an unnecessary war. The US has had a habit of doing such since > 1812. > We have taxes because of wars... If Corporations want to continue to throw us into confl

Re: Iran

2012-01-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
it wouldn't be the first time that the country dumped itself into debt over an unnecessary war. The US has had a habit of doing such since 1812. On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:02 PM, PT wrote: > > And who is going to pay for another "conflict"? > > Dammit congress, you and your war profiteers .. I me

Re: Iran

2012-01-19 Thread Sam
You guys should vote for Paul. He'd probably help them build a nuke. That would probably solve the Israel problem. . On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:02 PM, PT wrote: > > And who is going to pay for another "conflict"? > > Dammit congress, you and your war profiteers .. I mean, companies with > defen

Re: Iran

2012-01-19 Thread PT
And who is going to pay for another "conflict"? Dammit congress, you and your war profiteers .. I mean, companies with defense contracts, might not care, but we are out of money. So, we start screwing around with Iran. What is the return on that investment? We have them surrounded, their nei

Re: Iran

2012-01-19 Thread Maureen
As long as those in power can profit from war, there will be war. Their ability to use the propaganda machine to create villains has become even more effective with the use of the Internet and 24/7 media. The only way to stop them is to refuse to be their propaganda tool. Don't even say their na

Re: Iran

2012-01-19 Thread Dana
amen On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:47 PM, GMoney wrote: > > > http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/01/18/iran-threatens-us-persian-gulf-cities-with-missile-attacks > > A "nuclear Iran" is the next bogeyman that is being constructed to convince > you that your sons and daughters should be sent t

Re: Iran "assassination" plot. Building the case to invade?

2011-10-13 Thread Maureen
I would be astonished beyond words if anyone in the current administration suggested an invasion of Iran. What are they going to use to pay for it? Some of the opposition candidates, however, I could see attempting it. Imagine Bachmann breaking a nail in the middle of one of her migraines and bl

Re: Iran "assassination" plot. Building the case to invade?

2011-10-13 Thread Robert Munn
I laid out what I figured was the plan for the Middle East years ago. Use Iraq as a wedge in the Arab world. Spur the idea of democracy. Then divide and conquer. Take a look at this 2009 Brookings report called 'Which Path to Persia?' to get a sense of the current thinking about Iran. http://www.

RE: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Didn't we do that during the riots they had? -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:27 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters That would be a great opportunity to show the Ir

Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-29 Thread Judah McAuley
afari [mailto:rastaf...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:26 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters > > > #ithinktheyareTHATcrazy > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfu

RE: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
They may be crazy, but they aren't stupid...that would be a better phrase -Original Message- From: Ras Tafari [mailto:rastaf...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:26 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters #ithinktheyareTHAT

Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-28 Thread Gruss Gott
That would be a great opportunity to show the Iranian people our satellite surveillance technology On Sep 28, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Scott Stewart wrote: > > I think one of their own vessels will sink just fine by itself without > them having to scuttle it... they'll still blame it on us tho.. >

Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-28 Thread Larry Lyons
>> I think it will be much ado about nothing. Iran may want to beat it's chest >> a bit but they aren't going to do anything that's going to get >> them annihilated. They may be crazy, but they aren't that crazy. > > >The rules of engagement at sea at pretty well defined and the US has a ton >of e

Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-28 Thread Larry Lyons
>There is no way this ends well. > >On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Camer >> At least one of them though the end was well... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430

Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-28 Thread Scott Stewart
I think one of their own vessels will sink just fine by itself without them having to scuttle it... they'll still blame it on us tho.. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Never said they would 'attack' However, I think they ARE crazy enough > to sink one of their own vessel

Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-28 Thread Scott Stroz
Never said they would 'attack' However, I think they ARE crazy enough to sink one of their own vessels and try to blaem us On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Medic wrote: > > I think it will be much ado about nothing. Iran may want to beat it's chest > a bit but they aren't going to do anything t

Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-28 Thread GMoney
Agree. Let them sail their cute little boat. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Medic wrote: > > I think it will be much ado about nothing. Iran may want to beat it's chest > a bit but they aren't going to do anything that's going to get > them annihilated. They may be crazy, but they aren't tha

Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-28 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Medic wrote: > I think it will be much ado about nothing. Iran may want to beat it's chest > a bit but they aren't going to do anything that's going to get > them annihilated. They may be crazy, but they aren't that crazy. The rules of engagement at sea at pre

Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-28 Thread Ras Tafari
#ithinktheyareTHATcrazy On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Medic wrote: > > I think it will be much ado about nothing. Iran may want to beat it's chest > a bit but they aren't going to do anything that's going to get > them annihilated. They may be crazy, but they aren't that crazy. > > On Wed, S

Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-28 Thread Medic
I think it will be much ado about nothing. Iran may want to beat it's chest a bit but they aren't going to do anything that's going to get them annihilated. They may be crazy, but they aren't that crazy. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > There is no way this ends well. >

Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-28 Thread Scott Stroz
There is no way this ends well. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Saw this on Twitter. > > http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/27/world/meast/iran-navy/index.html > > ...and is the third sailor from the right cupping the other dude's butt? >  Isn't that blasphemy in Iran? > >

Re: Iran planning to send ships near U.S. waters

2011-09-28 Thread Ras Tafari
that is definitely some cuppage. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > Saw this on Twitter. > > http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/27/world/meast/iran-navy/index.html > > ...and is the third sailor from the right cupping the other dude's butt? >  Isn't that blasphemy in Iran? > >

Re: Iran has its own UAV.

2010-08-23 Thread Greg Morphis
It's probably a typo. It's suppose to read 1000m not km. Damn it, we shouldn't have sold them those Air Hogs! They totally ripped the technology! Where do you put the double A's? On Aug 23, 2010 10:11 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > Looking at the photos I suspected the same thing, like somethin

Re: Iran has its own UAV.

2010-08-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Looking at the photos I suspected the same thing, like something out of the 60's or early 70's. As for a Target Drone, you're half right - its just a target. On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Its actually looks like a rip off of another US Target Drone > > On Mon, Aug 23,

RE: Iran has its own UAV.

2010-08-23 Thread Sisk, Kris
Wow...the Sheik is hitting the hashish a bit harder than normal. "The key message is friendship..." It's a fricking BOMBER! What are they going to do? Paint smileys on the bombs that the thing drops? I can see this now "Hey Israel, let's be friends. We'll send our friendship messenger right awa

Re: Iran has its own UAV.

2010-08-23 Thread Ray Champagne
Target is sponsoring drones now too? On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Scott Raley wrote: > > Its actually looks like a rip off of another US Target Drone > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Larry C. Lyons >wrote: > > > > > Not much to worry about. Just another aerial target. I'll wait until

Re: Iran has its own UAV.

2010-08-23 Thread Scott Raley
Its actually looks like a rip off of another US Target Drone On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > Not much to worry about. Just another aerial target. I'll wait until > Jane's Defense Weekly does an analysis. > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Vivec wrote: > > > > It's

Re: Iran has its own UAV.

2010-08-23 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Not much to worry about. Just another aerial target. I'll wait until Jane's Defense Weekly does an analysis. On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Vivec wrote: > > It's capable of mounting several types of bombs and has a 1000km range. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11052023 > > ~~

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread denstar
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Denny wrote: >> >> Heh.  I just read some Ayn Rand, so you guys are freaking cracking me up. >> > > Watch Wallstreet again.  Did you know they're making another one??  They are. > > Then read the History of Government Wealth Creation. Readin

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Denny wrote: > > Heh.  I just read some Ayn Rand, so you guys are freaking cracking me up. > Watch Wallstreet again. Did you know they're making another one?? They are. Then read the History of Government Wealth Creation. Actually I can save you some time there - you'll find the full text b

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread denstar
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Gel wrote: >> >> That would mean putting human interest before Capitalist concerns... >> So its doubtful. >> > > Capitalism - aligning self-interest with systemic societal wealth > creation - is the only thing that will save the planet. Heh

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Gel wrote: > > That would mean putting human interest before Capitalist concerns... > So its doubtful. > Capitalism - aligning self-interest with systemic societal wealth creation - is the only thing that will save the planet. and, as long as I'm going all GG on you, I'll quote the other famou

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread sor...@gmail.com
Yeah, me too, except people who are helping iraqis kill my friends and fellow servicemembers, then i do not mind seeing them die, needlessly or not. -Original Message- Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 8:02:21 am To: "cf-community" From: "Michael Grant" Subject:

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Grant
I was under the impression that there was no state of war between US and Iran. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > > Wasn't a question of good or bad. It was a statement as to what state > of war, quasi-war, or whatever exists between the US

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Wasn't a question of good or bad. It was a statement as to what state of war, quasi-war, or whatever exists between the US and Iran. Actually, between Iran and the various national forces in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. On 9/29/09, Michael Grant wrote: > >> >> Arming insurgents and terrorists usually

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Vivec
That would mean putting human interest before Capitalist concerns... So its doubtful. 2009/9/29 Michael Dinowitz > > I wonder if either country will stop selling Iran the parts they need for > their > "we only want peaceful energy" program. > ~~

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Reading the news on a daily basis shows that it's coming faster and faster as we find new 'hidden' sites, they test fire longer ranged missiles, make more threats, etc. etc. etc. The 5 year assessment was from those who want to show how long we have to be diplomatic and sing kumbaya. 5 years was a

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Casey Dougall
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > > But we are not officially and openly at war with them at the moment. > Not until their 5th nuke is launched. Maybe their 7th. No, we'll give > them one more chance - their 11th. and on and on and on. > > T

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Grant
> > Arming insurgents and terrorists usually constitutes an act of war. > Yesh, any country that would secretly arm insurgents or terrorists is just evil. 0_o *nods* ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something the

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Arming insurgents and terrorists usually constitutes an act of war. > Um, maybe I missed something, but since when is Iran at war with my > countrymen and allies? But we are not officially and openly at war with them at the moment. Not until their 5th nuke is launched. Maybe their 7th. No, we'll

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Grant
Um, maybe I missed something, but since when is Iran at war with my countrymen and allies? On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > Grant wrote: > > > > Not really the point. The Iranian military is just doing it's job the > same > > way the US, UK and Canadian militaries are d

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Grant wrote: > > Not really the point. The Iranian military is just doing it's job the same > way the US, UK and Canadian militaries are doing theirs. And their job is to kill your countrymen and your allies. ~| Want to reach

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Grant
Not really the point. The Iranian military is just doing it's job the same way the US, UK and Canadian militaries are doing theirs. I just personally don't find anyone dying funny. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > Grant wrote: > > > >> > >> Ha, this is funny stuff. > >>

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Greg Morphis
Surely they must be running out of virgins... On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Michael Grant wrote: > >> >> Ha, this is funny stuff. >> > Ya, ha, seven crew dead. Hahaha. > > 0_o > > > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Gruss Gott
> Grant wrote: > >> >> Ha, this is funny stuff. >> > Ya, ha, seven crew dead. Hahaha. > > 0_o > They don't like the US, but they don't like Canadians either: you have freedom and democracy. It's tragic when anyone is needlessly killed, but the Iranian military is probably still fighting against

Re: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread Michael Grant
> > Ha, this is funny stuff. > Ya, ha, seven crew dead. Hahaha. 0_o ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/

RE: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident

2009-09-29 Thread sor...@gmail.com
Ha, this is funny stuff. -Original Message- Date: Monday, September 28, 2009 10:27:11 pm To: "cf-community" From: "Judah McAuley" Subject: Iran loses last AWACs in air show accident F-5 runs into the sole remaining AWACs and the remains crash down at the tomb of Kohmeni. http://www.st

Re: Iran, North Korea, wtf?

2009-05-26 Thread denstar
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:51 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > yeah, i gotta agree it does NOT smell good in that neck of the woods. > > :( a bit scared Smells like teen spirit. Don't be scared, be prepared! I'm stocking up on deodo-rant, personally. And 100 mile per hour tape, gotta have the tape. H

Re: Iran, North Korea, wtf?

2009-05-25 Thread Ras Tafari
yeah, i gotta agree it does NOT smell good in that neck of the woods. :( a bit scared On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > > See what happens when the list goes quiet? Iran is threatening Israel more > than ever, Israelis are preparing for all-out war, and North Korea just > te

Re: Iran: Maybe they just have a misunderstood dislike for Orange Juice?

2009-03-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
They really want OJ put to death. I'm sure a peaceful guy like that could not mean anyone else that sounds like juice. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > http://failblog.org/2009/02/09/jihad-fail/ > > -Cameron >

Re: Iran: Maybe they just have a misunderstood dislike for Orange Juice?

2009-03-04 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
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Re: Iran: Maybe they just have a misunderstood dislike for Orange Juice?

2009-03-04 Thread Robert Munn
It's the new Jihad Diet On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Cameron Ch wrote: > > http://failblog.org/2009/02/09/jihad-fail/ > > -Cameron > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date G

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-22 Thread Larry Lyons
>You are making my point exactly. He is NOT being treated like any other spy. >He IS being treated differently. The spies had jail terms measured in >months. The ones I mentioned all have been given the equivalent punishments. Pollard is not being treated any differently. He is an American citiz

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
You are making my point exactly. He is NOT being treated like any other spy. He IS being treated differently. The spies had jail terms measured in months. Why should someone spying for Israel be treated any differently than > Virginia Jean Baynes. She was caught slipping military secrets to the >

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-21 Thread Michael Grant
Isreal not set us up the bomb. All our base... nevermind. *doodlydo dweeooweeoo* (that's the music) On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > > To put this into thread context with the idea that spies are bad, should be > s

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-21 Thread Larry Lyons
Pollard gave military secrets to a foreign government. Whether and for what reason he did so is immaterial. He could have done it for the noblest of intentions, or a lot of money like Aldrich Aimes, or a Robert Hanssen, its still spying for a foreign government. Why should someone spying for

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
well, you can't say that we atheists didn't try to warn you. We said, "Hey, don't make laws that are based on religious values and repeal the ones you already have". We said, "Not everybody believes the same beliefs so let's not legislate based on one set of beliefs". We said, "Some day

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
You know that is so much bull shit. I'm critical of Israel when they deserve it but as I said, when they are held to a double standard or are in the right, I'll defend them. Point in fact, in the Pollard case they are totally in the wrong. They have betrayed Pollard at every turn and have done zer

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
To put this into thread context with the idea that spies are bad, should be shot, etc. What should we do about the spies we have in Iran? Should they not do their job of letting us know what Iran is doing and/or stopping them? Should we pull them all out? I mean, spying is wrong, spying is bad,

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Tongue in cheek, which should have been said in my haste before Shabbos. Point is, Pollard is being treated differently because he exposed the US doing wrong. My saying he was upholding America's honor was a way to walk around the point. Bottom line from the beginning of this fork is that America'

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I didn't say its ok, I'm saying that they are being held to a different standard. EVERY other spy (those not specifically charged with treason) has been released FAR faster than Pollard. He's "a special case". Why? Because he made the US look bad by exposing their non-compliance to their sworn wor

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-21 Thread Vivec
Larry...It was Israel. They can do no wrong, they are always right. Haven't you realised this after years of discussions relating to Israel on this list? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic relea

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-21 Thread Larry Lyons
>Hypocrisy >Our agents should live and others should die? What if our agent is a foreign >national? They should live as well? Double standard all the way. > >As for the case I was talking, the agent wasn't a spy, he was an American >patriot willing to save America's honor. Say what?? The man was

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-21 Thread Larry Lyons
So its ok for someone to be a traitor for Israel, but not elsewhere. Why should Israel get any special treatment? The guy should be locked away in a hole. Spies are spies. if they are caught they should be dealt with harshly whether they come from. Moreover it was not commercial espionage that

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-21 Thread Vivec
*points* It's sammy! :) Hey sam! *waves* 2009/2/20 Sam : > > Didn't Dianne Feinstein give out top secret information? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial htt

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Jerry Johnson
No, it isnt a step towards war. It is par for the course. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > > I DESPISE double standards. Always have, always will. My defense of Israel > is almost always based on the total double standard applied against it

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Sam
Didn't Dianne Feinstein give out top secret information? On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Any American who gives or sells military secrets to a foreign government, > ally or not, in my book is guilty of treason, and should be shot. > > Very simple. > > They basically ha

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I DESPISE double standards. Always have, always will. My defense of Israel is almost always based on the total double standard applied against it. This is a double standard as well. We can kill their spies but they can't kill ours? Sounds good on paper (or email) but it's a step towards war. On F

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:02 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > He should have been killed. Period. One rule for all. We kill theirs and they should be allowed to kill ours. > Also, the Liberty? The liberty was investigated and found to be an accident. It's old news kept alive by conspiracy theorists a

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:13 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > Look it's a sore spot here. We killed people that passed secrets to the > Russians when they were our allies, remember that? Please refresh my memory as to when we killed a Russian agent and they were our allies. WW2? > Because of our "spec

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Jerry Johnson
Um, yes, Exactly. That is called betraying your country be giving military secrets to a foreign power. That is spying. Very simple, really. And no, it isn't hypocrisy. It is a double standard. What it the problem there? On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.

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2009-02-20 Thread LRS Scout
No they should be shot too. Look it's a sore spot here. We killed people that passed secrets to the Russians when they were our allies, remember that? Because of our "special relationship" with Israel they need to keep themselves above reproach. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Michael Dinowit

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2009-02-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Hypocrisy Our agents should live and others should die? What if our agent is a foreign national? They should live as well? Double standard all the way. As for the case I was talking, the agent wasn't a spy, he was an American patriot willing to save America's honor. America violated its treaty wi

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread LRS Scout
He should have been killed. Period. Also, the Liberty? Come on man, we share interests with Israel, we're their friend, but neither of us is perfect. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > > Truth be told, treaties between American and Israel

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread LRS Scout
Good to have, but they should be shot when youcatch them, it's not supposed to easy work. It's black, covert. You know the risks going in. Quite honestly if I had it to do all over again, and a degree On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> w

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Justin Scott
Larry Lyons wrote: >> territories. If they fire a nuke at Israel, that's Israel's business, >> not ours. > > It is ours. Since the late 50's there have been several treaties and other > agreements that states that if there's a nuclear attack on Israel, the US > will nuke the perpetrator, on

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Jerry Johnson
Any American who gives or sells military secrets to a foreign government, ally or not, in my book is guilty of treason, and should be shot. Very simple. They basically have declared "that other government is more important than the safety of mine. My loyalties lie elsewhere". Foreign nationals

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Pound for pound, he is punished beyond the pale. He's still rotting in the worst solitary confinement possible while North Korean spies go free in a month. And this was a spy from an ally, something that is not uncommon (from France, England, etc.) But if we go with your view of things, how many

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Jerry Johnson
Are you actually saying the spy was punished too harshly? I disagree. He should have been shot, on general principles. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Michael Dinowitz < mdino...@houseoffusion.com> wrote: > > Truth be told, treaties between American and Israel are not always worth > the > pape

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Truth be told, treaties between American and Israel are not always worth the paper they are printed on. America has screwed Israel on more than one occasion which should have been covered by treaty. America was supposed to give Israel intelligence reports about Saddam's weapons buildup and America

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Larry Lyons
>Michael Dinowitz wrote: >> Excuse me while I laugh. The rest of the world? Like who? The UN? Russia? >> China? Go into the UN records and read what's going on (not just what hits >> the news) and you'll see that the "rest of the world" isn't doing much and > >If they don't act then that's their b

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Justin Scott
Michael Dinowitz wrote: > Why do I hear the specter of "going in alone" in what your saying. There is > little to no chance that we will retaliate against Iran without UN and/or > world backing. I just don't see it happening. As for Israel, well, they'll As I said, I hope we would have the balls

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread LRS Scout
Well with Obama and Hillary maybe we'll be able to get some backers. Who knows. Europe seems tired of Afghanistan, I don't see them lending many troops. Israel can't launch a first strike or other middle eastern neighbors will respond. The best thing I could see happening would be using Iraq a

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2009-02-20 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> The flag is not illegal (by law) but displaying it may be grounds for > punishment of one form or another based on where you are in England. Since we both know some won't bother searching - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article47306.ece - England flag ban fury http://www.thesun.co.

Re: Iran has enough uranium for a bomb

2009-02-20 Thread Jerry Johnson
If anyone on earth uses a nuke first, I think it is our interest to get involved. Just like people rush a gunman in an enclosed room, it isn't safe to allow _anyone_ to escalate to that extent. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Justin Scott > wrote: > > > > If they don't act then that's their b

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