They are talking about him on the Rachel Maddow Show right now...
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Subject: Re: Mubarak says will not run for reelection, but not standing
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tunisia, really
wow
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From: Ras Tafari [mailto:rastaf...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 09:57
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Mubarak says will not run for reelection, but not standing
down.
tunisia, really, had nothing to do with this. maybe the gaul to do it, but
not
I just read that..was about to post.
Scary indeed.
I just saw the movie of the government van plowing through protestors,
knocking people over as it raced through the crowds.
What's incredible is that Mubarak is either claiming he does not know
about any of this, or that it isn't his people.
B
> Vivec wrote:
> in Egypt. They said that the activities were co-ordinated against a
> variety of journalists and news organisations and they have tied it
> directly back to the Egyptian government.
>
> Scary stuff there.
>
I like HuffPo's headline based on this tweet:
@ NickKristof : Govt is tr
Great Time article there.
Just heard that the US State Department has announced that the
Egyptian Interior Ministry has been behind actions against journalists
in Egypt. They said that the activities were co-ordinated against a
variety of journalists and news organisations and they have tied it
d
The talk from the Egyptian Vice President just now does not sound like
a party that is stepping down at all.
He spoke about opening dialogue with the other political parties, and
that this will take time. My understanding of those statements was
that there were contingencies inherent in having the
this is damn cool.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2045599,00.html
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Sam wrote:
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> Look at the big picture. Would they have done this ten years ago?
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>
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> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Ras Tafari wrote:
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> > tunisia, really, had nothing t
Look at the big picture. Would they have done this ten years ago?
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Ras Tafari wrote:
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> tunisia, really, had nothing to do with this. maybe the gaul to do it, but
> not the reason.
> google this name, for the REAL reason...
>
> http://www.google.com/search?sou
tunisia, really, had nothing to do with this. maybe the gaul to do it, but
not the reason.
google this name, for the REAL reason...
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=khaled+said
the organizers have squarely confirmed this.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Vivec wrote:
>
Iraq and Afghanistan are not in any way responsible for what has
happened in Egypt based on what we know thus far.
It was events that unfolded in Tunisia that led to this.
Going one step down to the other logical rung on the ladder: The
organisers of the Tunisian protests have never once mention
"While some are talking loudly and long about cutting government spending,
it is doubtful they will discuss cuts in a $40-billion-plus annual
'intelligence' budget. This, despite the fact that our intelligence services
and our far-flung diplomatic network failed to foresee the historic upheaval
no
Yes, we are always "involved".
But as for the rest, I think you give us too much credit.
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> 90% of the time, as the world's only super powerthe US is involved.
>
> Do you deny that Mubarak has been a strong ally of the US regarding Israel?
> Do
Four years later he finally realizes the emperor is naked.
.
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Vivec wrote:
> In short Obama said f*** all in my view ^_^
>
> Now I could be wrong, but I am not a political analyst...what I came
> away from the speech is that he said nothing of substance, took no
We knew that Iraq and Afghanistan would have a sweeping effect. Some
people spent years denying it. They're the ones caught off guard. They
also happen to be the ones running the country.
.
> annual "intelligence" budget. This, despite the fact that our
> intelligence services and our far-flun
"[Comment From Persian Penis ]
I just want to say that the Egyptians are doing a fine job fighting
for their rights and freedoms! The Iranian people support you all
100%."
I guess at least the guy's 'head' is in the right place despite his
nom de plume...
lol!
And Obama said that Egypt's transi
I believe Obama has said the same thing...
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From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 07:33
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Mubarak says will not run for reelection, but not standing
down.
The United Nations, Ban ki moon (sp?) makes a
The United Nations, Ban ki moon (sp?) makes a statement that Egypt's
transition should begin immediately.
I think that they are being a bit more direct and telling Mubarak to
GTFO now lol.
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They were talking about it earlier...
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From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 20:50
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Mubarak says will not run for reelection, but not standing
down.
CNN is not showing the footage that AlJazeera films
CNN is not showing the footage that AlJazeera films: Tweeter laments
"The majority don't know" - live fire, machine guns still ongoing
in Tharir Square; littered with injured people; army just watches
frustrated tweet to Ben from CNN: "It's now 4 AM and onslaught in
#Tahrir continues unint
corporate interests
out of their governments.
Eric
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From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 20:21
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Mubarak says will not run for reelection, but not standing
down.
Huffington Post has a good article that exp
Huffington Post has a good article that explores this line of reasoning.
That fragile democracies give way to radical islamic theocracies (Iran).
"While some are talking loudly and long about cutting government
spending, it is doubtful they will discuss cuts in a $40-billion-plus
annual "intelli
> Vivec wrote:
> And you know what? Right now I think Mubarak is right where the west
> wants him to be, until they can figure something else out.
>
One line of reasoning might go this way:
1.) Egypt's recent history seems to be one of pro-west dictators or
anti-west dictators. Mubarak is pro-
" It goes to show that regardless of politics, the right idea has legs."
You hit it on the head Jerry...
Eric
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The population of Egypt is equivalent to New York, California and Texas
added together. 83 million.
Until yesterday, the number of protesters county wide were never estimated
to exceed 50K. And most of the days in Cairo saw 10-20K people total.
So, that would basically be like the crowd at a Jet
90% of the time, as the world's only super powerthe US is involved.
Do you deny that Mubarak has been a strong ally of the US regarding Israel?
Do you Deny that the US has funded him significantly, has trained
Egyptian troops, the arms contracts etc?
How can you deny that Mubarak's position
I think the US is in a no-win situation here.
We _cannot_ back the protest movement, if we want it to succeed. Nothing
would de-legitimize the movement quicker in the eyes of Egyptians and the
rest of the Middle East than US backing.
We _cannot_ back Mubarak if we want him to live out the month.
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> You need perspective, Viv
>
>
Gel has perspectivea very simple, well defined perspective:
It's the fault of the United States.
The only thing that changes, is the "it".
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On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 4:05 PM, G Money wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Vivec wrote:
> > The monster that the US has created, it now cannot control.
>
> AH! There's what I've been waiting for!
>
> I know you've been dying to say it.
I'm just glad the army of blue Yetti monsters hasn't
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> Tony Blair says that Mubarak has been a force for good.
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/02/tony-blair-mubarak-is-imm_n_817644.html
>
> If nothing else, they're loyal eh?
> Solidarity amongst world leaders against the people they are meant
It's the truth.
It is what caused Condeleeza Rice in her speech to say that in the
past the United STates has pursued Stability in the middle east at the
expense of Democracy, and now has ended up with neither.
This was 5 years ago.
*now* however everyone takes a hands off approach.
On 2 Februa
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:05 PM, G Money wrote:
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> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Vivec wrote:
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>>
>> The monster that the US has created, it now cannot control.
>>
>>
> AH! There's what I've been waiting for!
>
> I know you've been dying to say it.
Yeah and it is a bit sad. The US has certai
Tony Blair says that Mubarak has been a force for good.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/02/tony-blair-mubarak-is-imm_n_817644.html
If nothing else, they're loyal eh?
Solidarity amongst world leaders against the people they are meant to govern.
Beautiful thing.
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> The monster that the US has created, it now cannot control.
>
>
AH! There's what I've been waiting for!
I know you've been dying to say it.
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Mubarak says he will not be pressured by the US.
They also arrested the leader of the April 9th youth movement which
supported the protests.
Exactly what I said would happen :(
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"Now, I'm basically stuck between what they've established as two
cordons around Tahrir. One, is established by pro-Mubarak
demonstrators, whose job it is to keep people out of the square. That
includes ambulances and anyone whose not on their side. They ask you
if you're pro- or against. They're
not to be confused with it's horrid sister... the moose knuckle
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/277675/
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Ras Tafari wrote:
> nothing cooler
>
>
> http://www.google.com/images?q=camel+toe&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=882
>
> On W
nothing cooler
http://www.google.com/images?q=camel+toe&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=882
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Sam wrote:
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> I like camel toes
>
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I like camel toes
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On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Ras Tafari wrote:
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> i know i know :)
>
> what a dick.
>
> but seriously... a camel just makes me laugh. i bet if they could talk,
> they'd be some
> pretty funny characters.
>
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Vivec wrote:
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>>
>> You kno
i know i know :)
what a dick.
but seriously... a camel just makes me laugh. i bet if they could talk,
they'd be some
pretty funny characters.
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Vivec wrote:
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> You know it's people like you that turn this thing into a joke..when
> it's such a serious...such a s
You know it's people like you that turn this thing into a joke..when
it's such a serious...such a serious..*giggle*...
hee hee.
*ahem*
LOL LOL!!
It's a damn CAMEL in the protests!
hahahahha!
On 2 February 2011 12:04, Ras Tafari wrote:
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> http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20110202/capt.10ad58575997446
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20110202/capt.10ad585759974463bfc90ee250e3e875-10ad585759974463bfc90ee250e3e875-0.jpg?x=400&y=277&q=85&sig=GX3u9zpJ1_wbzMNc3NOpqA--
if i saw a damn camel, i think id laugh.
i know its not laughable, but the thought is just hilarious.
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Vive
Reports coming in that 'Secret' Police went into villages and offered
money to young men to go to the square and incite violence.
The amount offered was about LE50 which for those cash starved people
is apparently too good to turn down.
Reports are that the police even handed some of them tear g
> Eric wrote:
>
> No kidding...
>
It seems like there's 3 options:
(1.) Crack-down. Either full-on military or some type of secret
police type of thing. I think this is the direction Mubarak is
heading in.
(2.) Hold an election. If Mubarak does this fair he probably loses,
if he rigs it it m
No kidding...
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down.
more than anything, lets hope the Muslim Brotherhood doesnt make
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> > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 07:42
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> > Subject: Re: Mubarak says will not run for reelection, but not standing
> > down.
> >
> >
> > Plain clothes police moving among protesters taking photos of who was
>
t him this
> wish
> post haste.
>
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> From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 07:42
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Mubarak says will not run for reelection, but not standing
> down.
>
>
> Plain clothe
bject: Re: Mubarak says will not run for reelection, but not standing
down.
Plain clothes police moving among protesters taking photos of who was taking
part.
This is yet another reason why Mubarak must step down now. He will persecute
people who took part in these protests.
Now Pro Mubarak suppo
Plain clothes police moving among protesters taking photos of who was
taking part.
This is yet another reason why Mubarak must step down now. He will
persecute people who took part in these protests.
Now Pro Mubarak supporters are flooding the square and starting
violence, throwing stones and be
l not run for reelection, but not standing
down.
The US just issued a statement on Egypt through Obama saying absolutely
nothing.
Still up to the egyptians to see how this thing will go, but in my view
Mubarak needs to step down now, otherwise all this would have been for
naught.
Him staying on
The US just issued a statement on Egypt through Obama saying absolutely nothing.
Still up to the egyptians to see how this thing will go, but in my
view Mubarak needs to step down now, otherwise all this would have
been for naught.
Him staying on until September is a compromise that isn't likely
Regardless of what he might do to persecute people, he's done. He has lost
the Egyptian people. They are standing up asking for democracy, and we're a
bunch of schmucks if we don't help them achieve it. Could it become an
Islamic state? Sure. But it doesn't have to be a radical state, and I'll bet
Especially since the VP...Omar Suleiman...was the go to man for renditions
where we would send POW's to countries for interrogation when torture was
the norm. This man is just evil...
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To:
Not Mubarak.
I don't know anything about the muslim brotherhood.
The people overwhelmingly want him gone, the US and the rest of his
allies have asked that he step down.
And he did not.
The minute he gets control, he will persecute them all.
On 1 February 2011 17:42, Sam wrote:
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> Who are you
Who are you rooting for the Muslim Brotherhood or the other guy?
.
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> I hope the Egyptian people don't fall for that ruse.
>
> The moment Mubarak regains power and control of Egypt, he'll go after
> every single leader of the protests, and the oppo
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