RE: Oo! I forgot to tell you ...

2009-04-24 Thread Justin Scott
> As far as the actual story goes - did you hear > the recording of the pilots? Indeed, the pilots and the controllers did everything by the book as far as I can tell. Emergency training is drilled into both pilots and the controllers, so everyone was calm as Hindu cows given the situation. -Ju

RE: Oo! I forgot to tell you ...

2009-04-24 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Justin Scott [mailto:jscott-li...@gravityfree.com] > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:03 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: Oo! I forgot to tell you ... > > > > I've heard that Airbus has sealed the records and investig

Re: Oo! I forgot to tell you ...

2009-04-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Justin wrote: > takeoff, even if an engine fails.  The idea being that if you reached that > speed you will probably be able to liftoff and climb enough to come back > around and land rather than not be able to stop and guarantee running out of > runway. Yeah, he had no choice - not enough spee

Re: Oo! I forgot to tell you ...

2009-04-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> gMoney wrote: >> > Ya know, even if it turns out that Sully originally did f*** up, that > wouldn't really change his hero status in my eyes. Totally agree, it's just a bummer if true because it might take something away from the awesome job he did. Although if true I suspect mostly only airli

Re: Oo! I forgot to tell you ...

2009-04-24 Thread G Money
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Justin Scott wrote: > > Once those planes reach a certain speed on the takeoff run they commit to > takeoff, even if an engine fails. The idea being that if you reached that > speed you will probably be able to liftoff and climb enough to come back > around and l

RE: Oo! I forgot to tell you ...

2009-04-24 Thread Justin Scott
> The pilot responds, "don't you fncking touch those throttles!" Once those planes reach a certain speed on the takeoff run they commit to takeoff, even if an engine fails. The idea being that if you reached that speed you will probably be able to liftoff and climb enough to come back around and

RE: Oo! I forgot to tell you ...

2009-04-24 Thread Justin Scott
> I'd have to double check with my pop but.if they > accidentally shut down the wrong engine, couldn't they > just say "oops" and bring it right back up? I don't fly jets, so I couldn't tell you for their situation. I know with multi-engine props, if you suspect an engine failure you thrott

Re: Oo! I forgot to tell you ...

2009-04-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> CamChi wrote: > Since this happened right after takeoff I'm not sure they would have > had the space required to get speed back up fast enough to be going up > instead of down, even if they did start it back up. > > Interesting development though. > That and they likely didn't know/realize it i

Re: Oo! I forgot to tell you ...

2009-04-24 Thread Cameron Childress
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:30 AM, G Money wrote: > I'd have to double check with my pop but.if they accidentally shut down > the wrong engine, couldn't they just say "oops" and bring it right back up? Since this happened right after takeoff I'm not sure they would have had the space required

Re: Oo! I forgot to tell you ...

2009-04-24 Thread G Money
I'd have to double check with my pop but.if they accidentally shut down the wrong engine, couldn't they just say "oops" and bring it right back up? On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Justin Scott wrote: > > > I've heard that Airbus has sealed the records and investigation. > > That alone mak

RE: Oo! I forgot to tell you ...

2009-04-23 Thread Justin Scott
> I've heard that Airbus has sealed the records and investigation. That alone makes the report suspect. An aircraft manufacturer would not have the power to do that. The NTSB is the one in charge of investigating, not the aircraft manufacturer. What incentive would Airbus have to seal files an