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From: Lon Lentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 11:22 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
Thanks for the link. But I have 6 copies of the Constitution in various
forms.
States do not have rights. Govern
ember 09, 2002 11:14 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
>
> The second amendment was not written to mean that individuals have a
right
> to own a weapon...certainly not an assault
> weapon.
>
> He
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Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 7:25 AM
Subject: RE: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
> Larry,
> The only thing I would ask is this:
>
> How is the 1st amendment an individual right, but the second i
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:39 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
> Thanks for the link. But I have 6 copies of the Constitution in various
>forms.
>
> States do not have right
, 2002 2:09 PM
Subject: RE: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
> The Constitution states that the Congress will not maintain a standing
> army past 2 years (war notwithstanding). It seems to violate the
> Constitution everytime it passes a military appropriations b
The Constitution states that the Congress will not maintain a standing
army past 2 years (war notwithstanding). It seems to violate the
Constitution everytime it passes a military appropriations bill (this
contrasted with the fact that the Constitution says that Congress WILL
maintain a Navy). To
> Thanks for the link. But I have 6 copies of the Constitution in various
>forms.
>
> States do not have rights. Governments do not have rights. You can't
>enumerate a right to something that, by definition, is incapable of
>possessing such a thing.
>
> Why in the heck would our forefathers f
chard Henry Lee- Senator, First Congress
"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves?"
---Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
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From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 9:59 AM
To: CF-Community
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>Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:19 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
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>State right. based on the first clause of the statement.
>
>larry
>
>At 12:23 PM 12/6/02 -0500, you wrote:
>
ts are inherent to
individuals only.
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From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:19 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
State right. based on the first clause of the statement.
la
t interest in the out come
of the election that take part. The two party system we have adopted is causing
greater and ever more widening gaps in our beliefs.
Just hope we do something about it.
Tim
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From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday,
ver more widening gaps in our beliefs.
Just hope we do something about it.
Tim
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From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:19 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
State right. ba
cember 06, 2002 3:03 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
>
> Even if you did want to overthrow the govt, a piddly assault weapon
would
> be
> pretty useless against the sophistocation of the us military.
However,
> back
&g
Simple, if you own a gun, know how to use it properly.
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 1:20 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
>
> so
Both!
The people have the right to protect themselves and their state. The
state has the right to protect itself.
It is clear to me that the founding fathers intended to ensure the
people should not be overpowered by any aggressor, be it the government
or otherwise.
To protect the individuals an
a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
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From: Timothy Heald
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:59 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
Yes, it was written over 200 years ago, when militias
State right. based on the first clause of the statement.
larry
At 12:23 PM 12/6/02 -0500, you wrote:
>OK folks. Snap poll:
>
>"A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,
>the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." -
>The second amendmen
amendment in your eyes?
>
>Tim
>
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>From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:31 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
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>
>This was written over 200 ye
1 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
>
>
> This was written over 200 years ago when militias were
> necessary for domestic protection as the army at that time
> could not possibly protect the entire US. So, if you
uty unit at any time. So do I meet the requirements of
the amendment in your eyes?
Tim
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From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:31 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)
This was wr
This was written over 200 years ago when militias were necessary for domestic
protection as the army at that time could
not possibly protect the entire US. So, if you were in a militia that was formed for
domestic defense then you could
own a weapon. As plain as it is written, the NRA still man
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