Well, let me put it this way ... I am free in all of the ways that I need to
be free.
H.
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From: Dave Fobare [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 7:21 PM
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Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
Backing Saddam was a great idea back in the day. The long Iran-Iraq war
paid off handsomely for the west. Two
vote in 1920.
More below...
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> From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 10:39 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
>
>
> >You are not free to walk around
This thread seems to have taken a slight diversion.
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From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 17 September 2001 14:34
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
Here y
Apologies Howard..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 September 2001 05:49
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
My name is not Howie. It's Howard.
H.
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Fro
://www.neighborware.com=
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From: "Adkins, Randy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:30 AM
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are
) can't see why they are hated
My name is not Howie. It's Howard.
H.
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From: William Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 7:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
Not offici
>You are not free to walk around naked at work (yikes!). But that was
>God-given, wasn't it? (This from an agnostic).
In some places you are, this is not a law of the Federal Government this
would be a law of you city or state. It just so happens that everybody
decided that it would not be a go
ot;The Land before Time" (not sure of the author, but I love the dinosaurs).
"Demon Haunted World" Carl Sagan.
"Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot" Al Franken (pretty funny reading)
-Gary
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Came across this somewhere on the web Thought it would fit into this
discussion.
Frank
By LEONARD PITTS JR.
Miami Herald
They pay me to tease shades of meaning from social and cultural issues, to
provide words that help make sense of that which troubles the American soul.
But in this momen
o
retreat from debate have very small minds and are incapable of sustaining an
intelligent debate. I certainly hope I'm misreading this.
H.
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From: Trent Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 9:12 PM
To: CF-Community
Subj
e dinosaurs).
"Demon Haunted World" Carl Sagan.
"Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot" Al Franken (pretty funny reading)
-Gary
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:19 PM
> To: CF-Communi
ast thing I post. The propaganda is more powerfull than
than free thought.
Trent
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2001 11:19 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why
Ah, one good quote renders my entire rambling post trivial.
H.
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From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:20 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
"It is in vain, sir, to
ear, you are a very smart man, because legions of lawyers have made
>millions of dollars arguing over what those words mean and how they should
>be applied. Almost all cases taken by the Supreme Court over the last 200
>years have dealt with just those amendments.
>
>
>H.
&
over the last 200
years have dealt with just those amendments.
H.
-Original Message-
From: Trent Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 3:28 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
So lo and be hold the right
is bill was clear!!
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, 16 September 2001 3:15 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
>
>
> In other words, you want to play semantic games.
>
iving.
H.
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From: Trent Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 1:13 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
It was not a case of my "missing the point". It was more a case of look
e and I can't think of a good justification for
> doing so), to
> say we now deserve to die because of it is so ridiculous, it's insulting.
>
> I used a clichéd example of neighborliness. I'm sorry you missed
> the point.
>
>
> H.
>
>
> -Original Mess
My name is not Howie. It's Howard.
H.
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From: William Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 7:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
Not officially Howie, but American p
eighborliness. I'm sorry you missed the point.
H.
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From: Trent Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:32 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
Sugar, where did you get the idea for
Sugar, where did you get the idea for sugar. Let's be realistic. If you
supplied arms to your neighbour and said "go and kill these people because I
don't like them either". Are you not saying that killing is OK? So Bin Laden
turns around and decides he does not like you, what happens you've alrea
From: Rick Eidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:01 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
>
>
> Even if we understand it should that change our response? I think
> not bottom
> line is the
>>
I did not type that (or just that). Extreme filtering?
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> Not officially Howie, but American people have..
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 14 September
Not officially Howie, but American people have..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 September 2001 14:36
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
Where do you get this "the IRA has been
The main "charity" was called Noraid.
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From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:02 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
No but here has been quite a lot of IRA fund rai
TED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
> Clinton had a lot to do with legitimising the IRA. Pandering to them
> po
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:36 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
>
>
> Where do you get this "the IRA has been funded by America"?
>
> The
>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
> I doubt if american financial support for the IRA will cease.
>
> This is really more due to the fact that there are so many irish
decendants
> in america and its kind've
han
anything related to the Middle East"
What about the Iraqi Kurds. Both our governments had a aprt to play in that.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 September 2001 14:45
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't se
iday, September 14, 2001 4:56 AM
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
> I doubt if american financial support for the IRA will cease.
>
> This is really more due to the fact that there are so many irish
decendants
> in america and its kind've a stra
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:29 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
I think the point he is trying to make is that the US must first try and
understand why it happened. If America does not want to face the fact that
Bin Laden
Where do you get this "the IRA has been funded by America"?
The US government has never supported the IRA.
H.
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From: William Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:45 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can'
:RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
I think the point he is trying to make is that the US must first try and
understand why it happened. If America does not want to face the fact that
Bin Laden was trained, equipped and supported by them then America is
unlikely to solve this
America understands that. We know about him, we help Castro in cuba, we
have trained a number of people just so they could turn around and use it
against us. But that doesn't make what they did OK.
At 09:29 AM 9/14/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>I think the point he is trying to make is that the US mu
yup.:)
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From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 September 2001 09:57
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
I doubt if american financial support for the IRA will cease.
This is really more due to the fact
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Sent: 14 September 2001 09:45
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
I don't think anyone is trying to say that the US deserved this attack.
But, one cannot view this attack in a vacuum.
Perhaps now is too early to start critiquing American
now cease??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 September 2001 05:52
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
While it's true that the U.S. has made some very poor choices in the
governments and leaders it has ch
x27;m sure America will bomb the hell out of one
of the people that it trained.
Adam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 5:52 AM
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Subject: RE: They (Americans) can't see why they are ha
While it's true that the U.S. has made some very poor choices in the
governments and leaders it has chosen to back, to say that is what made us
so hated is a terribly simplistic answer.
To say we have been a strong and consistent ally of Israel is to misstate
the facts.
We are reviled because we
Backing Saddam was a great idea back in the day. The long Iran-Iraq war
paid off handsomely for the west. Two nasty regimes at each other's throats
for 8 long, bloody years guaranteed the West a healthy, properly
functioning oil market. In Iran, the war accelerated a huge demographic
shift tha
(Ground rule number 1: Let's try to be civil. Having said that, here I go:)
I found this article to be misleading in one of its "facts".
Namely the words "recklessly thrown its weight behind Israel's 34-year
illegal military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza as the Palestinian
intifada rages.
Sadly, this is mostly too true. We also back and armed Saddam Hussein. -Gary
> -Original Message-
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:55 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: They (Americans) can't see why they are hated
>
>
> I found
I agree, and it also makes an excellent point regarding the Wall Street
Journal mentioned reprinted in the imra.org.il mentioned in a previous post.
Jim
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From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:55 PM
To: CF-Community
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