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On 5/18/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Doesn't legitimising these people who are already in the country, and
> will likely remain illegally in the country for generations, mean that
> you start RECEIVING taxes?
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> And if they are involved in criminal activities now they are
On 5/18/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tony wrote:
> > there are plenty of unemployed AMERICANS who need jobs.
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> Yeah, but Bruce said it himself: they don't want to work for what
> those jobs pay. And that pay is connected to the cost of the service
> provided. And that cost
bject: Re: This absolutely takes the cake - Immigration Reform
I doubt most of the nation has any clue as to what is happening in
California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas pertaining to immigration.
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 6:45 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: This absolutely takes the cake - Immigration Reform
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>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:56 AM
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>> Subject: Re: This absolutely takes the cake - Immigration Reform
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>> Here you can go down to a certain area and pick up day l
English.
Bruce
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Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 6:45 AM
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Subject: Re: This absolutely takes the cake - Immigration Reform
In 1987 we had a huge amnesty program. Illegal immigration was out of
control et
$8 and hour is more than they are making here.
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 9:56 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: This absolutely takes the cake - Immigration Reform
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> Here you can go d
Here you can go down to a certain area and pick up day laborers (illegal
hispanic immigrants) for $8.00 an hour. The live 6 - 10 guys per
apartment have no cars, no insurance, or any other responsibilities.
Sure they send money back to Mexico or where ever but the average wage
in Mexico is wha
> Tony wrote:
> there are plenty of unemployed AMERICANS who need jobs.
>
Yeah, but Bruce said it himself: they don't want to work for what
those jobs pay. And that pay is connected to the cost of the service
provided. And that cost determines if that service is offered.
Lower cost services = h
In 1987 we had a huge amnesty program. Illegal immigration was out of
control etc...
So now we are doing it again?
WTF???
Fix the system and stop forgiving those who break the law.
I went to see the whales in Sacramento yesterday. Probably upwards of
1,500 people. An event that had no soc
You can't do either.
Employers will always find a way around the laws. They've been paying cash
for a lot of these jobs for years even before the immigrant workforce came
in.
Construction demand went way up, so the builders and the contractors needed
people to do the work. It will be interesting
is what I think anyway.
Bruce
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From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 6:07 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: This absolutely takes the cake - Immigration Reform
To me that's the crux: you were not willing to work for the amount of
]> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:06 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: This absolutely takes the cake - Immigration Reform
> >
> > I beg to differ. Last year
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:06 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: This absolutely takes the cake - Immigration Reform
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> I beg to differ. Last year when I moved back to California I could not
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For the second time in the history of this list, I agree with Gel. This is
an imperfect solution to an imperfect problem in an imperfect world. But I
think it's as good as we can get, I think we need to just bite the bullet on
this one and focus on doing the right thing GOING FORWARD.
On 5/18/07,
In a perfect world this would be the case, but it is not.
(1.) Those that illegally immigrate to work. Sure, they work for
roofing companies, for example. There's no way an employer is going
to hire an illegal when there are plenty of legal workers available
for the job and this bill makes that
s
the border to work here (or steal). It is breaking the law and they should
be punished, not rewarded.
Bruce
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From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 11:45 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: This absolutely takes the cake - Immigration Re
Doesn't legitimising these people who are already in the country, and
will likely remain illegally in the country for generations, mean that
you start RECEIVING taxes?
And if they are involved in criminal activities now they are 'on the
map' so to speak and can be found?
And also, doesn't give yo
> RoMunn wrote:
> bro, don't sweat it. most of these people do jobs you wouldn't touch, for
> money you would think of as pocket change. the country needs these people.
I'm with Robert on this one. The law regarding the legal immigration
of *workers* hasn't been touched in over 20 years and the l
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bro, don't sweat it. most of these people do jobs you wouldn't touch, for
money you would think of as pocket change. the country needs these people.
as far a
bro, don't sweat it. most of these people do jobs you wouldn't touch, for
money you would think of as pocket change. the country needs these people.
as far as lawbreaking goes, most of them have done nothing more than sneak
across the border to fend jobs with employers who are dying to hire them. i
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