Nick McClure wrote:
>
> What concerns me most is if the EU for instance created their own root
> servers, and then said .com for the EU root servers is controlled by this
> group. Then king-nacho.com is one thing in the US and something completely
> different in the EU.
That could definitely happ
is one thing in the US and something completely
different in the EU.
That is my definition of a problem :)
> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 1:09 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: UN wants to inter
Nick McClure wrote:
> But what if they had differing information, wouldn't that create a problem?
Depends on your definition of a problem :)
The most likely scenario for a conflict that would cause a split in the global
DNS system is that some legal proceedings in the US would result in some co
But what if they had differing information, wouldn't that create a problem?
> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:18 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: UN wants to internationalize the Intrawebs
>
Nick McClure wrote:
> I realize there aren't only 13 boxes, however by their own terminology there
> are 13 root servers, and by my count 10 of them are operated by US
> companies.
And internet would function fine if all 10 of them were taken down.
But which fair amount of hardware is owned or g
To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: UN wants to internationalize the Intrawebs
>
> Nick McClure wrote:
> >
> > From my count 10 of the 13 servers are with US based organizations
>
> It is a mistake to think that there are only 13 servers. There are close
> to a hundre
Nick McClure wrote:
>
> From my count 10 of the 13 servers are with US based organizations
It is a mistake to think that there are only 13 servers. There are close to a
hundred servers using 13 IP adresses (anycast). Count servers and the numbers
change significantly: only a minority of the ser
ent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:07 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: UN wants to internationalize the Intrawebs
>
> Nick McClure wrote:
> > The Root Servers
>
> The physical servers (the hardware) are not owned by the US. They are
> owned by the hosting organisat
Nick McClure wrote:
> The Root Servers
The physical servers (the hardware) are not owned by the US. They are owned by
the hosting organisations. A significant part of the hosting organizations does
not fall under US jurisdiction: http://www.root-servers.org/
The only thing that falls exclusively
Deal. I liked gopher better, anyway.
And what was wrong with Fidonet, I ask you?
On 7/18/05, Wayne Putterill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, you keep the internet and we'll have the web back as that was
> invented in Europe.
>
> ;)
>
> On 7/18/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > S
You got your chocolate in my peanut butter!
On 7/18/05, Wayne Putterill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, you keep the internet and we'll have the web back as that was
> invented in Europe.
>
> ;)
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OK, you keep the internet and we'll have the web back as that was
invented in Europe.
;)
On 7/18/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Simple answer: No.
>
> We built it. It is ours. Just be glad we let you play.
>
> On 7/18/05, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.cd
Nick McClure wrote:
> http://www.cdt.org/headlines/headlines.php?hid=796
Samizdata.net had a round-up this weekend:
http://www.samizdata.net/blog/archives/007798.html
Taxation via domain-name sales sounds like it will pull the little votes
along, with the big push coming from those states which
The Root Servers
_
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 4:33 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: UN wants to internationalize the Intrawebs
Nick McClure wrote:
> Well, besides ownership of the systems
Which systems?
Joc
Nick McClure wrote:
> Well, besides ownership of the systems
Which systems?
Jochem
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Well, besides ownership of the systems I'm not sure what else really plays
in to it.
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From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:05 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: UN wants to internationalize the Intrawebs
Nick McClure wrote:
> I
Nick McClure wrote:
> I can see those negotiations now. All these people around the table, and
> they have all these ideas but they will rely on one thing. The US giving up
> control of the root servers.
If push comes to shove, what control does the US really have over the root
servers?
Jochem
:p thpt!
-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 8:49 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: UN wants to internationalize the Intrawebs
I blame Bush :)
--- On Monday, July 18, 2005 11:46 AM, Ken Ketsdever scribed: ---
>
> But it
Well, I think it was a case of the people that agreed and the people that
actually made the choice were not the same people.
_
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 11:59 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: UN wants to internationalize the Intrawebs
Personally, most of the SPAM I receive is from:
comcast
verizon
roadrunner
etc.
These are all from the US and most are from zombies. However, the zombies and
spammers are mostly US-based.
Howie
--- On Monday, July 18, 2005 11:48 AM, Nick McClure scribed: ---
>
> How much of what they are coun
The US previously agreed to give up root control and then renegged. I'd prefer
that we kept the control of the root but, since we previously agreed to give it
up, you can see why people would be upset.
Howie
--- On Monday, July 18, 2005 11:53 AM, Jerry Johnson scribed: ---
>
> Simple answer: N
count spoofing and hacked
computers.
> -Original Message-
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 11:43 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: UN wants to internationalize the Intrawebs
>
> The lion's share of SPAM originates in the US
Simple answer: No.
We built it. It is ours. Just be glad we let you play.
On 7/18/05, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.cdt.org/headlines/headlines.php?hid=796
>
>
>
> I can see those negotiations now. All these people around the table, and
> they have all these ideas but th
I blame Bush :)
--- On Monday, July 18, 2005 11:46 AM, Ken Ketsdever scribed: ---
>
> But it always sounds better if you can blame the communists or the
> Israelis.
>
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But it always sounds better if you can blame the communists or the
Israelis.
-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 8:43 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: UN wants to internationalize the Intrawebs
The lion's share of SPAM origi
The lion's share of SPAM originates in the US:
http://www.techworld.com/features/index.cfm?featureID=1372
1. United States (35.7 percent)
2. South Korea (24.9 percent)
3. China and Hong Kong (9.7 percent)
4. France (3.1 percent)
5. Spain (2.7 percent)
6. Canada (2.6 percent)
7. Japan (2.1 p
And give it to China which will rule all spam not only legal, but required
reading as well.
Have I mentioned today that I hate the UN and think it has as much reason to
exist as a steaming pile of dog feces? Actually, less.
> http://www.cdt.org/headlines/headlines.php?hid=796
>
>
>
> I can see
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