> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
> was right.
>
>
> Even taking into account everything you get from the news and your
> personal accounts, you are still talking about a very small percentage
> of police officers.
To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
> was right.
>
>
> Even taking into account everything you get from the news and your
> personal accounts, you are still talking about a very small percentage
> of police officers.
>
Would you like a tissue Scott?
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 7:23 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
was right.
Even taking into account everything you get
ou continue to chose to ignore.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:06 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
> was right.
>
>
>
One just has to watch the
news
> and read the newspaper or just live life to see that.
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:44 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer I
You don't? yeah right...
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:53 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
was right.
So, you admit that you apply different rul
I knew that about him the day he joined this list. :)
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> So, you watch the news and see a few story about a 'bad' police
> officer and automatically assume they are all 'bad'? That is anecdotal
> evidence at best.
>
> A police officers are li
nd read the newspaper or just live life to see that.
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:44 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently
-Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:43 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
> was right.
>
>
> So, now, you are expecting police officers t
our logic?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:39 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
> was right.
>
>
> Again, why is it wrong to judg
ing cops to muslims is pretty stupid. You are arguing apples and
> rocks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Appar
software development can always be fixed. Bad examples...
Eric
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:43 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
was right.
So, now, you are
.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 12:43 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was
right.
So, now, you are expecting police officers to NEVER make mistakes?
Does this
them, according to your logic?
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:39 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
was right.
Again, why is it wrong to judge one group based on
es and
> rocks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
> was right.
>
>
> How so?
>
> Al
oz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:30 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
> was right.
>
>
> The violation is just as bad, and I said as much.
>
> Where the difference lies is with h
stupid. You are arguing apples and
> rocks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
> was righ
he intention is
> irrelevant as the end result is the same.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:30 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
Comparing cops to muslims is pretty stupid. You are arguing apples and
rocks.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
was right
intention is
> irrelevant as the end result is the same.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:30 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
>
Overzealous to me is just as bad as a bad officer. The intention is
irrelevant as the end result is the same.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:30 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration
ail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:53 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
> was right.
>
>
> Kris, slice it any way you want, justify it any way you want. you are
> still judging an entire group of peopl
PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> Now you are just being stupid Scott...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:25 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Ap
Except that it is not just a few...
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:53 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
was right.
Kris, slice it any way you want, justify
Now you are just being stupid Scott...
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:25 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
was right.
Oh...so, its OK to pre-judge people
Apples and oranges
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:18 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
was right.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Phillip Vector
wrote
I know quite a few cops that don't think it is disrespectful...to include my
brother in law and several of my family members.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:06 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to a
Yeah, but you said it better
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Did I just say the same thing as Sam? :D
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On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Judah McAuley
>>> wrote:
>>> If you treat all police officers as if they are one of t
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
> Someone call Satan and ask if it's snowing...
>
> Seriously though, like I said earlier, I'm polite to officers. You can
> be respectful and politely decline to answer questions.
I agree. And that is a lot of the 'coaching' I was referring
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>> If you treat all police officers as if they are one of the 'bad' or
>> 'corrupt' ones, even a 'good' one might be put off by
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Medic wrote:
>
> That's one of the things I like about Scott. He's all like "Yeah I said it.
> So what?"
Thank you kind sir.
One of the greatest compliments I ever received was from Charlie
Griefer. We met face to face a few years back at CFunited. After the
co
way since there's this widespread idea that only people with
something to hide plead the 5th, but his treatment while he was delayed
would have been better.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:02 AM
To: cf-community
Subje
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Judah McAuley wrote:
> If you treat all police officers as if they are one of the 'bad' or
> 'corrupt' ones, even a 'good' one might be put off by your attitude.
> There is a way to protect your rights, even
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> I think that you may be not understanding the context in which Kris
> was stating this. What he's trying to say (at least how I take it) is
> equivalent to the recommended practice for handling guns: always
> assume that a gun is loaded a
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
>>I think you are back stepping a little, or maybe just clarifying your
> position.
>
>>Pretty sure it was you who made a comment earlier that was similar to
> 'I assume all cops are bad until proven otherwise'.
>
> Yes, that was a very poor c
If you act like all officers are corrupt then even a good cop could
become unpleasant.
Try starting with all are good and work on weeding out the bad
when you get to them.
It'll do us all better.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Judah McAuley wrote:
>
> I think that you may be not underst
That right there is pure gold.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Judah McAuley wrote:
> The same is true with police officers. You could be dealing with the
> nicest, most ethical, caring police officer in the world, in which
> case everything is going to be fine. Or you could be dealing with an
Exactly. Thank you Judah.
-Original Message-
From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:45 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently,
he was right.
I think that you may be not understanding the
>I think you are back stepping a little, or maybe just clarifying your
position.
>Pretty sure it was you who made a comment earlier that was similar to
'I assume all cops are bad until proven otherwise'.
Yes, that was a very poor choice of words on my part. Looking at it now
it doesn't accuratel
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> I think you are back stepping a little, or maybe just clarifying your
> position.
>
> Pretty sure it was you who made a comment earlier that was similar to
> 'I assume all cops are bad until proven otherwise'.
>
> There is a way to protect
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Phillip Vector
wrote:
> I would not be willing to assume all cops are bad as default...
Kris would, and that is my point. Here is a snippet from earlier in
the thread, the first part is from me, the response is from Kris.
>> I guess 'innocent until proven gui
That was meant for Kris. :D
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Phillip Vector
wrote:
>
> I'm clarifying my position. It's still early here on the west coast. :)
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>
>> I think you are back stepping a little, or maybe just clarifying your
>>
I'm clarifying my position. It's still early here on the west coast. :)
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> I think you are back stepping a little, or maybe just clarifying your
> position.
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Order the Ado
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Nice try Phil. I never mentioned anything about the process one needs
> to go through when they are unemployed.
I know. I did. But it's the same concept.
> People cheat the system. I have seen it, more times than I care to remember.
Agree
ere to protect the innocent, not the guilty. If you choose not to use
> that right to protect yourself, fine, whatever. To me that's kinda like
> cutting in line at the checkout counter in front of that guy in my
> example above.
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Scot
t's kinda like
cutting in line at the checkout counter in front of that guy in my
example above.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:53 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Appa
Nice try Phil. I never mentioned anything about the process one needs
to go through when they are unemployed.
People cheat the system. I have seen it, more times than I care to remember.
All I asked is, 'is it fair to assume everyone on welfare is cheating
the system because a few people on welf
I have to agree with Scott here. You and Phil are way wrong.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Erika L. Rich wrote:
>
> I have to agree with Phillip here Scott: As one that normally has your
> back buddy, you're approaching this conversation with some deep heavy
> blinders and getting more a
the store. A bad mechanic and you'll have to take your car
>>>>> to another one. Expensive maybe, but not exactly life altering. A bad
>>>>> programmer and you get bugs that don't get fixed. You're out the cost of
>>>>> the software, but 9
> >> makes sense to use every shield against bad cops that we have. It's not
> >> about being disrespectful to them. It's about protecting myself.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
&g
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>
> Would it be fair to automatically assume that all people on welfare are
> cheating the
> system until proven otherwise? No, it wouldn't.
Scott
Are you actually saying the Government is discriminating against the
unemployed because the
t; But here, how about we have the view of a police officer on the matter.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:25 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refu
fixed. You're out the cost of
>>>> the software, but 90% of the time you can just switch programs.
>>>>
>>>> Now with a bad police officer, you might end up in jail or you might
>>>> have a ticket on your record that shouldn't be there and
Umm...I am not getting aggravated, at all. I am just trying to point
out the hypocrisy of some on this list.
Apparently, it is bad to pre-judge an entire group of people based on
the words or actions of a few, unless, of course, its a group of law
enforcement officers.
If I was having this discu
y
> makes sense to use every shield against bad cops that we have. It's
not
> about being disrespectful to them. It's about protecting myself.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:08 AM
> To: cf
I have to agree with Phillip here Scott: As one that normally has your
back buddy, you're approaching this conversation with some deep heavy
blinders and getting more aggravated by the minute.
It might be time to stop, take a breath and try and look at it from someone
elses shoes. Doesn't mea
gh it only
>>> makes sense to use every shield against bad cops that we have. It's not
>>> about being disrespectful to them. It's about protecting myself.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
>
5 years. With the stakes that high it only
>> makes sense to use every shield against bad cops that we have. It's not
>> about being disrespectful to them. It's about protecting myself.
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.c
ul to them. It's about protecting myself.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:08 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently,
> he was right.
>
answer Immigration questions.Apparently,
he was right.
Considering there is about 1 million cops there is bound to be a few bad
ones... But remember this is a group of around 1 million people.
Take another random group of 1 million people and you could have
murderers
and rapists
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Phillip Vector
wrote:
> What I heard was, "When first meeting a police officer, I default to
> the worst case until I have reason to believe otherwise".
Replace 'police officer' with 'Muslim' in that sentence. See how bad that looks?
--
Scott Stroz
-
inal Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:08 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently,
he was right.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Sisk, Kris
wrote:
>
> There are enough bad cops that there
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> > There are enough bad cops that there are at least one or two in every
> > police department in the country (which is just about like any other job
> > really).
>
> So, based on this statement, is it safe to assume that you pre-judge
> ever
I don't believe that was what he was saying...
What I heard was, "When first meeting a police officer, I default to
the worst case until I have reason to believe otherwise".
Let me turn it around on you.
Would you lend money to a friend? Probably. Would you lend money to
someone you just met or
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
> There are enough bad cops that there are at least one or two in every
> police department in the country (which is just about like any other job
> really).
So, based on this statement, is it safe to assume that you pre-judge
everyone and ass
I know quite a few police officers who consider the term 'cop' to be
disrespectful, and even more people outside of law enforcement who use
the term to be disrespectful.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
>> (Pretty sure I know what your response
> will be, but can we at least
Wow...just...wow.
At least you admit you pre-judge people.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote:
>
>>You are judging an entire group of people based on the words and
> actions of a few. That is wrong, regardless of what that group it is
> (with a few obvious exceptions - like the K
> (Pretty sure I know what your response
will be, but can we at least show the position some respect and call
them 'police officers' rather than 'cops'?)
If you insist, sure, but I don't see how the term 'cop' is in any way
disrespectful.
~
>You are judging an entire group of people based on the words and
actions of a few. That is wrong, regardless of what that group it is
(with a few obvious exceptions - like the KKK).
There are enough bad cops that there are at least one or two in every
police department in the country (which is j
>So, if you get pulled over by a police officer for a traffic violation
you will not answer any of his questions unless you have your lawyer
with you?
Here's how that conversation would go: "Do you know how fast you were
going?" "Why don't you tell me?" I'd be polite and hand over my ID, but
no,
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> Exactly, unfortunately you have this culture where you have a mob like
> mentality where you are a bad person if you "snitch" on a fellow cop
> regardless of how bad a person and how bad a cop they are.
As opposed to the mob like mentality
troz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:43 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
> was right.
>
>
> To make it easier to understand my point, lets substitute the word
> 'cop'
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
...
> You seems to have issues with the way the system works, that does nto
> mean that all cops are 'bad'. So much for 'innocent until proven
> guilty'. With attitudes like this so prevalent, I would not want to be
> a law enforcement officer in
Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
was right.
I understand the point you're trying to making and I never said "all
cops are bad". I was pointing out that your analogy doesn't hold
water.
I've known some fine police officers, they serve a very
I understand the point you're trying to making and I never said "all
cops are bad". I was pointing out that your analogy doesn't hold
water.
I've known some fine police officers, they serve a very important role
in our community and they do an immensely hard job. It is, without a
doubt, the sort
not them" Typical Badge as Viagra substitute syndrome (and yes...that
applies to female cops too).
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:43 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions
al Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:43 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
was right.
To make it easier to understand my point, lets substitute the word
'cop' with Muslim or Jew
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Eric Roberts
wrote:
>
> I just don't assist them in violating my rights, so unless they need to
> know, they don't need to know ;-)
I don't assist anyone of violating my rights, regardless of what they
do for a living, so why single out law enforcement?
You are
To make it easier to understand my point, lets substitute the word
'cop' with Muslim or Jew or Democrat.
Slice it any way you want it, you are still judging an entire group of
people based on the words and actions of a few.
Sorry, I find your attitude (and others, like Eric and Kirs) towards
law
I just don't assist them in violating my rights, so unless they need to
know, they don't need to know ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 11:33 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer I
Not the same thing at all. Being black or Hispanic is something you
don't have a choice about, being a cop is a job. There are processes
in place that are supposed to get rid of bad cops and they rarely do.
Give every black guy a badge, a gun, a union, a toothless internal
affairs department and a
So, if you get pulled over by a police officer for a traffic violation
you will not answer any of his questions unless you have your lawyer
with you?
Either a) you are the world's best driver (and are not afraid of being
pulled over) or b) you have more free time than this guy.
'Granted for eve
w enforcement banks
> on that and will take complete advantage of it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 6:17 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
gt;> 5th amendment protect you from this kind of bullshit.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-
>>> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:34 PM
>>> To: cf-community
>>> Subject: Re
g a crime. The 4th and
>> 5th amendment protect you from this kind of bullshit.
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:34 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immig
Rule number one when dealing with any type of law enforcement in the Us: answer
no questions under any circumstances without a lawyer present. This isn't to be
a dick or to waste time. It's because A) we have the right to refuse to answer
questions here and B) there are a lot of bad cops here (
> Meh, big deal. In my eyes he was just wasting time.
One of the things at play here is that freedom is not a universal value, but
power is. Freedom is highly valued by most people in our society, but those
with power (however little) like to assert that power in many ways. We have
laws to prot
, 2010 6:17 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
was right.
Meh, big deal. In my eyes he was just wasting time. He didn't change
anything. Customs isn't going to stop asking these types of questions.
When I'm on my way home I j
ht to violate your rights for any
> reason unless you have proof that one is committing a crime. The 4th and
> 5th amendment protect you from this kind of bullshit.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:34 P
Something we can agree on Jerry.
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 3:40 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
was right.
I love it. Good for him
, 2010 3:34 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
was right.
That he has lots of free time to muck about with customs.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Vivec wrote:
>
>
>
http://knifetricks.blogspot.com/2010/04/i-am-detained-by
I love it. Good for him.
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That he has lots of free time to muck about with customs.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> http://knifetricks.blogspot.com/2010/04/i-am-detained-by-feds-for-not-answering.html
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> Of course..I think the guy has a few screws loose.
> What was he trying to prove really?
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> Of course..I think the guy has a few screws loose.
> What was he trying to prove really?
http://knifetricks.blogspot.com/2010/09/10-brief-responses-to-700-comments.html
In a nutshell, this:
A U.S. Citizen Cannot Be Denied Re-Entry To Her Own Country.
(The Right To) Silence Is Golden.
(and a f
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