RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Candace Cottrell
and executed them. -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:53 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent I'd be willing to bet money that the husband is in prison for beating up the wife or beating up the

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
nt: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:12 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent > > > > > > At 10:51 AM 8/5/2003 -0500, Kevin Graeme wrote: > > >Unfortunately, there can be problems with Norplant and Depo. > > How about > &

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Doug White
| | If we legalized drugs and prostitution than we would no longer have to spend | all that money on enforcement and punishment, and we would be able to tax it | like we do cigarettes and alcohol. | If we decriminalized these so-called crimes what would be left for the right-wing to do? Gang up o

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Haggerty, Mike
think responsibility is something parents must impart, or you learn the hard way. We don't need the government teaching us that. They already fail us in our educations, why not let them fail us in teaching responsibility too. > >M > >-Original Message- >From: Heald,

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
What a shame as Downs Syndrome children often have pretty good lives. George Will wrote a really classic column about this once; his son has Down's syndrome and an Indiana court had ruled that Down's syndrome children did not have lives worth living. I looked but did not find it online; it predated

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Heald, Tim
EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:13 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent Or pro-lifers who support cuts in Head Start or Medicaid :) Kevin Graeme writes: > It's a good point. It also makes about as much sense as pro-lifers who > also support

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Kevin Graeme
Which explains the panoply of religions available. -Kevin > -Original Message- > From: William H Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:28 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > > > ahh, but releve

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Heald, Tim
quot; > >'nough said? > >Timothy Heald >Information Systems Specialist >Overseas Security Advisory Council >U.S. Department of State >571.345.2235 > > >-Original Message- >From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
wouldn't. > > Move where you like the politics. > > Tim > > -Original Message- > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:55 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > > > Yeah,

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Yeah right. More of your jibba-jabba ain't gonna make it better. Weren't you in Maryland recently? Come back and stand up for saying I was on welfare. I will personally demonstrate the meaning of responsibility to you. M -Original Message- From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Marlon Moyer
> Timothy Heald > Information Systems Specialist > Overseas Security Advisory Council > U.S. Department of State > 571.345.2235 > > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:40 PM > To: CF-Commu

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Kevin Graeme
oing... -Kevin > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:36 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent > > > http://www.openprairie.com/revas.html > > From the website: &g

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
he people to be secure in their persons" > > 'nough said? > > Timothy Heald > Information Systems Specialist > Overseas Security Advisory Council > U.S. Department of State > 571.345.2235 > > > -Original Message- > From: Haggerty, Mik

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
At 03:13 PM 8/6/2003 +, Dana Tierney wrote: >good point, but this is not an argument for the validity of astrology. In >other words, just because it is there does not mean you have to adopt it as >a guide to daily living > >Dana > > From a scientific (non-Christian) point of view, we don't

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Ketsdever
not such a hard concept to buy into. -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:14 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent Or the bible is just a book that was written by some guys to make everyone conform

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Kevin Graeme
m to have any backers here though. > > Matt Small > > PS. I don't hold any of this against any of you. It's a > simple debate. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community"

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
garner. > >> > >> > >>And let's face it - 30% of children in America are born > >>>out of wedlock, it's not like they are necessarily getting these > >>>skills > >> > >>>at home. > >> > >>So, it should be the governments r

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And as such is beyond the realm of scientific inquiry. larry At 06:49 PM 8/6/2003 +, Dana Tierney wrote: >Isn't that his point? God is unknowable. > > > Its unknowable. Given that what could possibly exist before the big bang > > most likely operated under different physical laws, (assuming a

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
yeah yeah yeah... thought of you after I wrote that and left the house :) Sorry if that offended you :) Dana John Stanley writes: > ahem.. > > -Original Message- > From: Dana Tierney > To: CF-Community > Sent: 8/6/03 5:14 PM > Subject: Re: Yet another scum

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
’s the fundamental flaw in Christianity, > >>I could never believe in a God who acts in such an unfair manner. > >> > >> > >> > >>>-Original Message- > >>>From: William H Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>Sent: 06 Aug

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread William H Bowen
> >>>-----Original Message- >>>From: William H Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: 06 August 2003 19:42 >>>To: CF-Community >>>Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent >>> >>> >>> > Absolutely, it's the who

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
; > think there are many non-Christians on this list. > > > > -Kevin > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:58 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subjec

RE: Yet another scumbag parent PART II....

2003-08-14 Thread John Stanley
See, now that's something. Because when I gave up trying to date, I had sacks of both, and no one to give them to. -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 6:48 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent PART II...

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Small
've got my own tenets to follow. Matt Small - Original Message - From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 5:56 PM Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > I guess s

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Heald, Tim
Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:10 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent My dad used to work for a company called "Baby Think It Over." They made computer-enhanced baby dolls, that could be programmed to respond in various

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
; > >retribution. Fortunately, Christians know to also look at themselves and > > >ask for the forgiveness for their sins (including judgement of others) > that > > >Jesus Christ gave to us when He died on the cross, and we do try to live > the > > >right l

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
not really, I thought of this too. I saw some girls recently who had some of these dolls. I seem to remember reading that a lot of inner-city girls see having babies kind of like having a big doll, and of course it is not -- there is one big cause of abuse right there, and this is definitely one ca

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
seas Security Advisory Council > U.S. Department of State > 571.345.2235 > > > -Original Message- > From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:10 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > >

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Marlon Moyer
See, as a practicing atheist, I don't discriminate at all.I believe none of you nor I are going to heaven. Marlon On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 21:14:23 GMT, Dana Tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that everyone who has answered you considers themselves a > Christian. My personal issue i

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
's still there, correct? > > Matthew Small > > - Original Message - > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:45 AM > Subject: Re: Yet another scumb

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread William H Bowen
organizations, >but from distictly non-religious people. > >I don't have any problem with people believing what they want to believe. >Why do you? I'll practice my religion, you... do whatever. > >Matt Small > > >- Original Message - >From: "William

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
I'd be willing to bet money that the husband is in prison for beating up the wife or beating up the kids... Stuff like this really disturbs me. At least the child is probably in better hands now. Dana John Stanley writes: > http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/08/04/girl.in.trunk.ap/index.html > ~~

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
; To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > > > Not knowing the story of the woman with 9 kids I am not going to defend > her. As for myself I am quite content to leave your income alone. I have my > own. I am merely making the point, as someone who has b

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread John Stanley
it's all good Dana. Have a happy day. ;-) -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:52 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent yeah yeah yeah... thought of you after I wrote that and left the

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
s and those that can't be helped elsewhere, I just think that it > should get no federal money, and that it should be a last resort. > > Tim > > -Original Message- > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:37 PM > To

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
Information Systems Specialist > HT> Overseas Security Advisory Council > HT> U.S. Department of State > HT> 571.345.2235 > > > HT> -Original Message- > HT> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > HT> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:40 PM >

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Heald, Tim
Actually that's republicanism at work. I wish people would stop saying democracy already. Timothy Heald Information Systems Specialist Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2235 -Original Message- From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Haggerty, Mike
ople, actually serves the same end, that the common good can be upheld through vigorous preparation of young adults. M -Original Message- From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:54 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread William H Bowen
;>their version of Hell when I die. That's fine with me. I'm >>> >>> >>not going >> >> >>>to make them accept Jesus (although I believe they should). I'm not >>>going to tell them that they need to pick a leader wh

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
time out. Calling someone a hypocrite is an insult in my book and I suspect n most people's. Dana Kevin Schmidt writes: > Please Larry, show me where the insult is there. If pointing out one's hypocrisy is > an insult, you have onion thin skin. But, that's the left's favorite tactic. I > ca

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Okay, stand up for it: "The issue is taking responsibility for your actions. The action of having a child is one that requires responsibility... If you weren't ready, than why should I have to spend my tax dollars to handle your irresponsibility." M -Original Message- From: Kevin Schmid

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Kevin Graeme
-Original Message- > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:35 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > > > Episcopalians still follow the bible dont they? I am not sure > why you think Time th

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Tim Heald
erney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent I am pro choice, with reservations. Restrictions on third term abortions seem reasonable to me. I am not sure I agree with the move where you like the politics thing thou

People who would benefit from Parental Licensing (was RE: Yet another scumbag parent....)

2003-08-14 Thread Haggerty, Mike
http://www.local6.com/news/2383769/detail.html This guy is exactly the sort of person who would benefit from a parenting license. M ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://ww

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Wayne Putterill
. > -Original Message- > From: William H Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 06 August 2003 19:42 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > > > > Absolutely, it's the whole idea about Christanity - that if you're > outside >

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
e that you're saying that the greatest fault with the church > >is the judgement of fellow man. It is a failing, but don't forget the fact > >that the ultimate judgement comes from God, and either you're with Him or > >against Him. > > > >Matthew Small >

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Jerry Johnson
- Original Message - From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:11 PM Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > I am sorry if this list strikes you as anti-Christian. Some of the

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread John Stanley
gt; >-Original Message- >From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:38 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent > > >Look - I don't know where the idea of social eugenics came into all >this, but a

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Doug White
SP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Deanna Schneider
;Heald, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:36 PM Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent > Umm I said catholic where? > > If they want to say yes more power. I guess they haven't read the bib

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
it. > >Anyway, this list is decidedly anti-Christian as a whole, and I can accept >that. I try to not stand by and let the list bash me as a Christian, >though, and I try to explain my views as Biblically correct as I can >although I don't force them on you . Why force your

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Small
L PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > > Absolutely, it's the whole idea about Christanity - that if you're > outside > > of the religion, you're going t

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Wayne Putterill
> -Original Message- > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 August 2003 22:08 > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > I hear testimony at the church my daughter goes to which > seems to indicate that people think tha

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Haggerty, Mike
Look - I don't know where the idea of social eugenics came into all this, but a licensing program for expectant parents could be very beneficial in a utilitarian sense of the word. I see no reason that parents should be prohibited from having children or from being with their children, except in th

RE: The World According to Me (WAS RE: Yet another scumbag parent .... )

2003-08-14 Thread Kenneth Ketsdever
Rule level 1 punishment explains "The Last Comic Standing" -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:28 AM To: CF-Community Subject: The World According to Me (WAS RE: Yet another scumbag parent ) Agreed. I think

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Deanna Schneider
My point exactly. - Original Message - From: "William H Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:28 PM Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > ahh, but relevency is in the eye of the be

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Marlon Moyer
] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, >> 2003 1:49 PM >> > To: CF-Community >> > Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent >> > > > Wait. I have no problem with anyone based on sexual > preference, >> however, how can one claim to be a "Christian&quo

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Jerry Johnson
Systems Specialist Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2235 -Original Message- From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:10 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent My dad used to work for a c

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
hypocrisy? > >I agree with Kevin's point though. > > > >Timothy Heald > >Information Systems Specialist > >Overseas Security Advisory Council > >U.S. Department of State > >571.345.2235 > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Da

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Haggerty, Mike
If only that brave statement were true. I see what you're made of now. Cheap shots and dirty rhetoric, never offering up anything better and always looking for someone to beat up on. "Don't just beat the competition, bury them" - right? You know, if I wanted to, I could waste my time watching MS

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Jerry Johnson
hatever. God loves us all. Anyway, that's my take. Matthew Small - Original Message ----- From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Jerry Johnson
list bash me as a Christian, though, and I try to explain my views as Biblically correct as I can although I don't force them on you . Why force your views on the Christian? - Matthew Small - Original Message - From: "Jerry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Co

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Isn't that what's happening now, i.e., Laramie Wyoming and the most recent election fiasco with the Episcopalian Church. larry At 01:33 PM 8/5/2003 -0500, Doug White wrote: >If we decriminalized these so-called crimes what would be left for the >right-wing to do? Gang up on the homos? > >

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
> >-Original Message- >From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:07 AM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent > > >You should hear the stories I hear here at Children's. It's sickening. > &

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Kevin Graeme
To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent > > > Wait. I have no problem with anyone based on sexual > preference, however, how can one claim to be a "Christian" > after the bible says sodomy is a no go, and god killed a > bunch of those that p

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Small
The difference is... When you tell somebody that they can't have a baby, you're restricting the use of the reproductive organs. When you tell somebody that they must have a baby (if that person is pregant), you're forcing the use of the reproductive organs. The government restricts all kinds of a

RE: The World According to Me (WAS RE: Yet another scumbag parent .... )

2003-08-14 Thread John Stanley
lol -Original Message- From: Kenneth Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:42 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: The World According to Me (WAS RE: Yet another scumbag parent ) Rule level 1 punishment explains "The Last Comic Standing" ---

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
At 12:01 PM 8/5/2003 -0400, Kevin Schmidt wrote: >I hope you're kidding. Otherwise Larry, you are making a huge hypocrite >out of yourself. It's not ok to tell a woman what she can do with her >body when it comes to aborting a pregnancy, but it's ok to do it before >she conceives? Where is th

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Jerry Johnson
A few clarifications. People in general (not just Christians) seldom practice love and tolerance, and are really good haters. (People in general are selfish jerks. Me included). But they are allowed to be if their beliefs don't require them to be nice. But if among your basic tenets is "be good

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Wayne Putterill
:) Nice analogy. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 August 2003 22:21 > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent > > > I think a lot of these people seem more Ferengi than Judeo-C

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Small
Some crimes should only have one punishment when the evidence is undisputed and totally verifable - the death penalty. - Matt Small - Original Message - From: "John Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:01 AM Subject: Yet a

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Doug White
== If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Matthew Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Deanna Schneider
My dad used to work for a company called "Baby Think It Over." They made computer-enhanced baby dolls, that could be programmed to respond in various ways. High schools would buy them and use them in their health classes. There was a key that you had to insert and turn every so often to simulate fe

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread William Wheatley
ry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > First off, I am a Christian. Methodist to be precise. > > But I don't often go to Church. > > I

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Haggerty, Mike
eld through vigorous >>preparation of young adults. > >I don't necessarily agree with that. I think responsibility is >something parents must impart, or you learn the hard way. We don't >need the government teaching us that. They already fail us in our >educations,

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Heald, Tim
- From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent Why? Because the people who need the most help are the most likely to not know about / not care to attend the classes, and also because direct

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
; Sent: 06 August 2003 19:42 > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > > > > > > > Absolutely, it's the whole idea about Christanity - that if you're > > outside > > > of the religion, you're going to H

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Doug White
TECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent | Okay, stand up for it: | | "The issue is taking responsibility for your actions. The action of | having a child is one that requires responsibility... If you weren't | ready, than why

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Dana Tierney
ut not from other members of religious organizations, > >but from distictly non-religious people. > > > >I don't have any problem with people believing what they want to believe. > >Why do you? I'll practice my religion, you... do whatever. > > > >Matt Small

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Deanna Schneider
Kevin S. wrote: > They don't care one bit about women who want to have children, they are only > concerned about the ability to have an abortion, and the opinions by the pro- > choice members of this list on this issue proves that point. Painting with an awfully broad brush, there, aren't you? I h

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Heald, Tim
] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:35 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent | | If we legalized drugs and prostitution than we would no longer have to spend | all that money on enforcement and punishment, and we would be able to tax it | like we do cigarettes and al

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Small
Sure it was. Over a period of several thousand years, and in multiple languages. - Matthew Small - Original Message - From: "John Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:14 AM Subject

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread William H Bowen
>>From: William H Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:28 PM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent >> >> >>ahh, but relevency is in the eye of the beholder, no? >> >>will >> >> &

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-14 Thread Larry C. Lyons
At 03:09 PM 8/6/2003 +, Dana Tierney wrote: >Homeschoolers are likely to have involved parents. Probably private school >children too though this is less certain... they are at least involved >enough to pay for an education they perceive to be better... Don't know whether my previous post went

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-11 Thread bbraver_cf
I think a lot of these people seem more Ferengi than Judeo-Christian ;-) -Ben > > -Original Message- > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 08 August 2003 22:08 > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > &

Re: People who would benefit from Parental Licensing (was RE: Yet another scumbag parent....)

2003-08-11 Thread Dana Tierney
he would not get a license and imo a parenting class would not solve what looks to me to be some sort of repressed rage the kid would would benefit from being rescued from his father but this has happened without anyone being screened for fitness by the government Dana Haggerty, Mike w

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-11 Thread Dana Tierney
gt; > > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:53 AM > >To: CF-Community > >Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > > > > > >I'd be willing

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-11 Thread Kevin Graeme
Unfortunately, there can be problems with Norplant and Depo. How about reversible vasectomies? Much less long-term stress on the body. -Kevin > -Original Message- > From: Marwan Saidi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:36 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Yet an

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-11 Thread Larry C. Lyons
From CNN http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/08/05/baby.killed.ap/index.html Villanova professor charged with killing her baby ST. PAUL, Minnesota (AP) -- A Villanova University history professor accused of fatally slitting her 6-month-old daughter's throat was charged Tuesday with second-degree murde

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-10 Thread Dana Tierney
he common good can be upheld through vigorous preparation of young > >adults. > > I don't necessarily agree with that. I think responsibility is something parents > must impart, or you learn the hard way. We don't need the government teaching us > that. They

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-10 Thread Dana Tierney
naw, they already have that covered, didn't you see? George Bush wants top make sure gays can't marry. Apparently this is more important to him than any of the myriad other public policy issues he could have made a priority instead. Dana Doug White writes: > | > | If we legalized drugs and prost

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-10 Thread Dana Tierney
s the Jews > didn't care for in the people they were subjugated to. That's not to > diminish the religion, just that every religion is in part a product of > it's history. > > -Kevin > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Dana T

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-10 Thread Kenneth Ketsdever
Our government do something that is not rational, surely you jest. -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:34 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent Not knowing the story of the woman with 9 kids I am not

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-10 Thread Dana Tierney
ust 06, 2003 10:16 AM > | To: CF-Community > | Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > | > | > | Actually, you need to read and study the Bible to understand which parts of > | it to follow. I'm not a Bible scholar, but I do go to Bible studies and > | read the

Bishop (RE: Yet another scumbag parent....)

2003-08-10 Thread Kevin Graeme
ng about a major rift. -Kevin > -Original Message- > From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:22 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent > > > It's awesome, because it is gonna fracture t

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-10 Thread William H Bowen
Him or >against Him. > >Matthew Small > > >- Original Message - >From: "Jerry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:56 PM >Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag pare

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-09 Thread Dana Tierney
be > responsible for her. Then society should be able to tell her if she can > have more kids or not. Otherwise, pay your own way in life and reserve your > right to make your own choices in life. > > -Original Message- > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-09 Thread Kevin Graeme
ying the former, while most self-described fundamentalist christians I've known believe the latter. Just curious about how different people think. -Kevin > -Original Message- > From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 8:36 AM > To: CF-Comm

RE: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-09 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Those Old Believers sounds like a very fundamentalist Doukhobor sect in Alberta and BC. The Doukhobors were from the Ukraine and Russia originally. In the 60's and 70's one Doukhobor faction decided that the end times were upon us and decided to destroy everything they owned. Unfortunately some

Re: Yet another scumbag parent....

2003-08-09 Thread Matthew Small
ny of this against any of you. It's a simple debate. - Original Message - From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:11 PM Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent > I

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