Re: hypothetical

2005-03-24 Thread Dana
I am just interested in when people's lives are not worth living according to you all. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:25:22 -0800, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ok so am I hearing that we do nothing until we hear from next of kin? > > No, I am saying it would be in the best interest

Re: hypothetical

2005-03-24 Thread William Bowen
> ok so am I hearing that we do nothing until we hear from next of kin? No, I am saying it would be in the best interest of the hospital to find out who a person is that can speak for this patient. She is conscious, meaning, eyes open and breathing on her own, right? And I see in a later post, yo

Re: hypothetical

2005-03-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
There's an even older story (from the 1840's) about another of my greats - an uncle this time. Daniel Elijah (spelling?) was married to a woman whom many considered a battleaxe supreme. Her name was Elizabeth. One day after plowing the fields in May, he came in for supper. His wife refused to give

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2005-03-24 Thread Jacob Kisner
Kill her. Do not feed her, give her any medication or medical treatment. Prolonging her life, or anybodys life in this matter, is a strain on Social Security. It is because of old people living longer, there will be no Social Security when I retire... On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:20:15 -0600, Dana

Re: hypothetical

2005-03-24 Thread Dana
excuse me, the patient is conscious but appears confused. (great story btw) Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 17:53:36 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Catatonia? Boredom? Damned stubborn old bat. > > There's a family story that my great, great grandmother didn't speak > for about 10 y

Re: hypothetical

2005-03-24 Thread Dana
ok so am I hearing that we do nothing until we hear from next of kin? Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:08:26 -0800, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mistake? We don't know that. > > Okay, so then why are you concerned about the DNR? > > If there is no immediate danger, i.e., she's consc

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2005-03-24 Thread William Bowen
> Mistake? We don't know that. Okay, so then why are you concerned about the DNR? If there is no immediate danger, i.e., she's conscious even though unresponsive, then the DNR doesn't come into play. > Let's say the answer to all of the > following questions is no. So then, for clarity > > Is

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2005-03-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Catatonia? Boredom? Damned stubborn old bat. There's a family story that my great, great grandmother didn't speak for about 10 years. No reason except that she was supremely pissed at her husband. larry On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 05:39:03 -0600, jerry johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was she in th

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2005-03-24 Thread Larry C. Lyons
For whom, Delay or Randal Terry? larry On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:05:39 -0600, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nothing a 15-year supply of Ensure and Depends can't cover, I'm sure. I > would then immediately check into that gift food basket to see if there > were any of those Hillshire Fa

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2005-03-24 Thread Dana
no On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 05:39:03 -0600, jerry johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was she in this exact same state with no improvement for 7 years? > > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:43 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: hypothet

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2005-03-24 Thread Dana
Mistake? We don't know that. Let's say the answer to all of the following questions is no. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:32:34 -0800, William Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Discuss. > > Let's see, a DNR generally pertains to breathing, heart stoppage or > something imminently life threateni

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2005-03-24 Thread jerry johnson
Was she in this exact same state with no improvement for 7 years? -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:43 PM To: CF-Community Subject: hypothetical An 87-year-old woman is brought to the hospital from a nursing home, which has a do not

Re: hypothetical

2005-03-24 Thread William Bowen
> Discuss. Let's see, a DNR generally pertains to breathing, heart stoppage or something imminently life threatening. "Conscious but unresponsive" seems to indicate that she is able to breath on her own. So, please answer any one or all of the following please: Is she arresting or seizing in an

Re: hypothetical

2005-03-24 Thread Dana
The lawyer's wife is not a doctor. Average intelligent housewife. Dana On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:08:46 -0800, Jacob Kisner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What medical education, training and experience does the lawyer's wife > have? Maybe the patient was having a hard time eating because of a > sore

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2005-03-24 Thread Jacob Kisner
What medical education, training and experience does the lawyer's wife have? Maybe the patient was having a hard time eating because of a sore throat... Beside, a "do not resuscitate" in this matter means nothing. A "do not resuscitate means no performing CPR if heart stops. On Thu, 24 Mar 200

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2005-03-24 Thread Jim Campbell
Careful, Gruss. If your wife catches you in the nurse's lounge, she's likely to smack you in the face with a baseball bat. - Jim Gruss Gott wrote: >>Dana wrote: >>An 87-year-old woman is brought to the hospital from a nursing home, >>which has a do not resussitate order in her chart. She is co

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2005-03-24 Thread Jim Campbell
Nothing a 15-year supply of Ensure and Depends can't cover, I'm sure. I would then immediately check into that gift food basket to see if there were any of those Hillshire Farms cheese things, cause they're /awesome/. - Jim Dana wrote: >ok. And while you are waiting for them to return your ca

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2005-03-24 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > An 87-year-old woman is brought to the hospital from a nursing home, > which has a do not resussitate order in her chart. She is conscious > but unresponsive. She is accompanied not by family members but by the > wife of her lawyer, who was bringing her a gift of food and became > a

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2005-03-24 Thread Dana
ok. And while you are waiting for them to return your call, what care if any do you provide? Daha On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:53:15 -0600, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, first, we need to call Randall Terry, Tom DeLay and Jeb Bush for > advice... > > - Jim > > Dana wrote: > > >An

Re: hypothetical

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Campbell
Well, first, we need to call Randall Terry, Tom DeLay and Jeb Bush for advice... - Jim Dana wrote: >An 87-year-old woman is brought to the hospital from a nursing home, >which has a do not resussitate order in her chart. She is conscious >but unresponsive. She is accompanied not by family membe

RE: Hypothetical Job Question

2004-11-10 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
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Re: Hypothetical Job Question

2004-11-10 Thread Paul Ihrig
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RE: Hypothetical Job Question

2004-11-10 Thread Tangorre, Michael
> From: Candace Cottrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > What happens when a prospective employer asks to see some of > your work and code, yet most of your more impressive work has > been created on an intranet? > Do you ask your current boss to allow you to show it? > Do you take screenshots and s

Re: Hypothetical Job Question

2004-11-10 Thread Kevin Graeme
I would take screenshots and make sure they don't show confidential information. And I'd take some select samples of the code as well. Then I would put together a CD that included links to each with very obvious copyright statements. That still leaves you susceptible to some legal issues, but care

Re: Hypothetical Job Question

2004-11-10 Thread Howie Hamlin
You do a ho-down dance and leave the stage. Seriously, though - you are damned if you do and damned if you don't (unless you don't mind your current employer knowing that you are looking for another job). And, even if you ask, I'd imagine that you'd get a negative response anyway. Maybe you h