no friend that's the burque.
hehe
> I see a pretty fun, tangled, woven web. Reality is just such a trip,
> ya know? Or maybe you don't. :-)
>
> --
> Friendship is certainly the finest balm for the pangs of disappointed love.
>Jane Austen (1775 - 1817), Northanger Abbey
>
>
~~~
On Dec 26, 2007 3:45 PM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh that's right. I forgot.
>
> Charlie Griefer wrote:
> > This is true. I know because I saw Rambo III.
1.) Are you guys saying we (the US of A) had no involvement in the
Middle East prior to 9/11?
2.) That the Bush Family's relat
On Dec 26, 2007 2:38 PM, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 26, 2007 2:22 PM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Folks are so polarized on this issue here in the US that it's
> impossible to have a reasoned debate about it. The US media just
> reinforces the insular mindset -
Oh that's right. I forgot.
Charlie Griefer wrote:
> This is true. I know because I saw Rambo III.
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On Dec 26, 2007 2:38 PM, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a lot of them were trained by Americans directly or, indirectly, by
> American money because it suited America to use Bin Laden and his
> guerrillas to help oust Russia from Afghanistan.
This is true. I know because I saw Rambo I
On Dec 26, 2007 2:22 PM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OMFG!!! Give me a break Sean. You are WAY smarter than that to believe
> this bullshit. What aggression was it exactly that made a group of
> crazies decide to commandeer some planes and attack us? Please enlighten
> me because I mus
Sean Corfield wrote:
> On Dec 26, 2007 12:34 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>> 9/11
>>
>
> Which Bush's aggression caused.
>
OMFG!!! Give me a break Sean. You are WAY smarter than that to believe
this bullshit. What aggression was it exactly that made a group of
crazies de
On Dec 26, 2007 1:57 PM, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Considering a recession
>
> Which Bush's policies caused.
All indicators show the recession started before Bush was sworn in.
> > 9/11
>
> Which Bush's aggression caused.
Wow that's the first time I heard that one.
A quick sea
On Dec 26, 2007 12:34 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Considering a recession
Which Bush's policies caused.
> 9/11
Which Bush's aggression caused.
> and two wars.
Which Bush caused.
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On Dec 26, 2007 12:01 PM, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm guessing you don't support a woman's right to choose either (re:
> abortion)? And you're against same sex civil partnerships?
Bush did nothing to change abortion rights. I am pro-choice.
> As you say, your "limited knowledg
Considering a recession, 9/11 and two wars.
Again, the debt went up at a steady rate during Clinton's surplus
On Dec 26, 2007 11:55 AM, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 26, 2007 11:15 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Unless I'm reading this wrong, on page 316
On Dec 26, 2007 12:05 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We're talking about national debt not the budget. Interesting how the
> debt went up so much during the budget Surplus years.
During Clinton's administration, the national debt went up by only
about 0.3 trillion compared to 1.4 and 2.0 (so
We're talking about national debt not the budget. Interesting how the
debt went up so much during the budget Surplus years.
I meant page 127 not 146
On Dec 26, 2007 11:15 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unless I'm reading this wrong, on page 316 it shows total federal
> surp
On Dec 26, 2007 11:03 AM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Remember Clinton's surplus? Not showing up us it?
See Zaphod's post (and my response).
> Besides embryonic stem cells, which I don't agree with but I
> understand his position, I don't see it.
I'm guessing you don't support a woman's rig
On Dec 26, 2007 11:15 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unless I'm reading this wrong, on page 316 it shows total federal
> surplus/deficits:
Yup.
Clinton:
> 1997 21.9
> 1998 69.3
> 1999 125.6
> 2000 236.2
from -107.4 - that's a pretty good achievement.
Bush:
> 2001 128.2
Unless I'm reading this wrong, on page 316 it shows total federal
surplus/deficits:
1985 212.3
1986 221.2
1987 149.7
1988 155.2
1989 152.6
1990 221.0
1991 269.2
1992 290.3
1993 255.1
1994 203.2
1995 164.0
1996 107.4
1997 21.9
1998 69.3
1999 125.6
2000 236.2
2001 128.2
On Dec 23, 2007 9:04 PM, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The national debt was about 5.7 trillion dollars when Bush took office
> (the first time) and it grew to just over 7.1 trillion dollars during
> his first term and is currently 9.1 trillion dollars. So in his first
> four years he
On Dec 23, 2007 7:14 PM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 24 straight quarters of Gross Domestic Product growth
The national debt was about 5.7 trillion dollars when Bush took office
(the first time) and it grew to just over 7.1 trillion dollars during
his first term and is currently 9.1 trillion
On Dec 21, 2007 8:09 PM, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not the economy or education or crime? Shit, those are the things that
> keep me awake - I don't give a stuff about Iraq or Afghanistan (other
> that the huge amount of money the Shrub and his cronies are pissing
> away out there,
And just as soon as I thought McCain was coming back, he goes and floats a
cross of his own in a TV ad. The level of pandering right now just pisses me
off...
On Dec 22, 2007 2:58 PM, Gruss Gott wrote:
> > Sean wrote:
> > Heh, I know a lot of right-wing evangelical types who think Bush is
> > doi
> Sean wrote:
> Heh, I know a lot of right-wing evangelical types who think Bush is
> doing a great job - but they're the folks who'd vote for Huckabee this
> time around - and I don't want anyone like that running the country!
Ya know, I liked the guy until he started up with the floating
crosses
On Dec 21, 2007 10:47 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah but they only vote if they think candidate X will bring God to
> the pulpit. Bush has kinda burned that bridge and a lot of
> evangelicals are disillusioned and staying home.
Heh, I know a lot of right-wing evangelical types w
> Sean wrote:
> because a lot of middle-America is
> still terrifyingly racist :(
Yeah but they only vote if they think candidate X will bring God to
the pulpit. Bush has kinda burned that bridge and a lot of
evangelicals are disillusioned and staying home.
It used to be that you needed the Sout
On Dec 19, 2007 5:37 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was basically a one-issue voter in 2004. I'm not totally a one-issue voter
> now, though Iraq and Afghanistan remain the biggest issues for me.
Not the economy or education or crime? Shit, those are the things that
keep me awake -
On Dec 19, 2007 11:02 AM, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tripping luny said:
> > Crazies like Sam... :]
>
> Wow, called crazy by the sane guy. :)
Awww... shucks, Sam... *digging toe in ground, blushing*
You know I love you!
--
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god, i guess i should proof-read...
On Dec 19, 2007 5:37 PM, Robert wrote:
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I was basically a one-issue voter in 2004. I'm not totally a one-issue voter
now, though Iraq and Afghanistan remain the biggest issues for me. It all
depends on who wins the primaries. No way in hell am I voting for Hillary
Clinton or Mike Huckabee. Romney rubs me the wrong way sometimes, but he
i
>> gMoney wrote:
>> You calling my God false? Prove that the FSM is more made up than your
>> God?
>>
>
>Easy. The Pope is God's rep on Earth. The pope lives in Rome, and
>Rome is in Italy. Italians invented spaghetti, and FSM is made of
>spaghetti. Therefore, FSM must be made up by Italia
> Sam wrote:
> Minor correction: it was either the Chinese or the Arabs that invented it :)
>
No really relevant. On July 15th, 1976, FSM became self aware. And
it was Sweden that did it. It's on tape, man, look at it. LOOK AT
IT!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZOKUdMr95Ig
~~
> RoMunn wrote:
> I am a supporter of the war effort, not Bush's social conservative agenda.
>
Ah, gotcha. So just out of curiousity, would you call yourself a
"bush guy" or are you more of one-issue voter right now with Iraq?
i.e., who do you like for 2008?
On Iraq, I really boil it down to 2
Minor correction: it was either the Chinese or the Arabs that invented it :)
On Dec 19, 2007 7:09 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Italians invented spaghetti, and FSM is made of
> spaghetti. Therefore, FSM must be made up by Italians.
>
~~
I am a supporter of the war effort, not Bush's social conservative agenda.
On Dec 19, 2007 6:52 AM, Gruss wrote:
> > RoMunn wrote:
> > qualification for the Presidency. That's ridiculous. I don't care about
> a
> > candidate's religious views except, as Jim said, as they pertain to
> having a
> >
> Tripping luny said:
> Crazies like Sam... :]
Wow, called crazy by the sane guy. :)
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:52 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Ron Paul quotes Sinclair Lewis, 'When fascism comes to
> this country it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross
On Dec 19, 2007 9:09 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Easy. The Pope is God's rep on Earth. The pope lives in Rome, and
> Rome is in Italy. Italians invented spaghetti, and FSM is made of
> spaghetti. Therefore, FSM must be made up by Italians.
>
> The more interesting question is
> gMoney wrote:
> You calling my God false? Prove that the FSM is more made up than your
> God?
>
Easy. The Pope is God's rep on Earth. The pope lives in Rome, and
Rome is in Italy. Italians invented spaghetti, and FSM is made of
spaghetti. Therefore, FSM must be made up by Italians.
The
> RoMunn wrote:
> qualification for the Presidency. That's ridiculous. I don't care about a
> candidate's religious views except, as Jim said, as they pertain to having a
> moral compass.
So you don't believe government should legislate morality? Cause
that's the only conservative thing Pres Bush
On Dec 18, 2007 8:49 PM, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sam - he's saying that the viewpoints of other people who base their votes
> on their faith are irrelevant. People ought to be able to separate what
> they believe in their hearts from how they vote. People should be voting
> for
On Dec 19, 2007 2:52 AM, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please remember folks -- I believe "negative space" is information too.
> The outline of the tree and all that. (Easter type holistic whatnot).
Um, that would be "Eastern", not "Easter". Heh.
One correction down... ;-)
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Oh, you grok, Matt! Amazing grasp of intent, I tell you what.
Look, a person can say a lot of shit, ya know? I'm one to know, so I'll
verify that
bit myself (but, as with all things, don't believe because I say so, believe
because
it rings true to you, or whatever the hell that sentiment is).
B
On Dec 18, 2007 8:41 PM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Dude, it's ridiculous. Whatever happened to separation of church and
> > state?
> >
> > Seems like Bush2 opened the floodgates- it's sickening to see so much
> > fuss about religion. More sickening to know how many people actuall
On Dec 18, 2007 6:06 PM, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 18, 2007 11:43 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > this would bother me should huckabee become the president.
>
> Dude, it's ridiculous. Whatever happened to separation of church and
state?
While I'm at it, whate
I like what Charles Krauthammer wroteon the subject last week. Basically he
said that Huckabee is trying to elevate religion to the primary
qualification for the Presidency. That's ridiculous. I don't care about a
candidate's religious views except, as Jim said, as they pertain to having a
moral co
> -Original Message-
> From: Chesty Puller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:50 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Ron Paul quotes Sinclair Lewis, 'When fascism comes to
> this country it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cr
> -Original Message-
> From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:06 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Ron Paul quotes Sinclair Lewis, 'When fascism comes to
> this country it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'..
"CF-Community"
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: Ron Paul quotes Sinclair Lewis, 'When fascism comes to this
country it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'...
> Not sure what your trying to say but don't blow a gasket, I doubt
> Huckabe
Not sure what your trying to say but don't blow a gasket, I doubt
Huckabee has a chance
On Dec 18, 2007 5:06 PM, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 18, 2007 11:43 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > this would bother me should huckabee become the president.
>
> Dude, it's
On Dec 18, 2007 11:43 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> this would bother me should huckabee become the president.
Dude, it's ridiculous. Whatever happened to separation of church and state?
Seems like Bush2 opened the floodgates- it's sickening to see so much
fuss about religio
this would bother me should huckabee become the president. At this
point, I don't think we need another president so closely associated
with christianity. A christian president is fine and probably
inevitable (maybe people don't consider romney a christian), but I
really don't think we need an or
Responding to a question about Mike Huckabee's ad featuring a window pane in
the shape of a cross:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkltetQ0x4
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