RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-21 Thread Loathe
Have you guys seen Mionoriforce, or whatever it's called on adult swim? -- Tim Heald [EMAIL PROTECTED] 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (fo

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-21 Thread Vivec
Those opposed to the Scientology cult have placed an Ad in the LA Times: "The battle between Tom Cruise and Scientology and its foes is heating up. Cruise and Scientology have been in the news lately because of an allegedly censored "South Park" parody of the religion — and now Scientology and the

RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Nick McClure
0, 2006 7:34 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now) > > Yeah, I think it should have been put out there. I find it hard that > Hayse would do such a 180, and it would occur so long after the episode > aired. > > > -Original Mes

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Kevin Graeme
I couldn't have given two shits about this story before, but THAT sounds very x-files. On 3/20/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hayes didn't quit, he had a stroke: > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188463,00.html ~

RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: William Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:30 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now) > > > Hey Gel, what if an SP episode were to feature cartoons of Mohammed

RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Nick McClure
ty > Subject: Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now) > > According to one person while the other story is all over the place. Not > saying fox is wrong, but > > > > Hayes didn't quit, he had a stroke: > > > &g

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
According to one person while the other story is all over the place. Not saying fox is wrong, but > Hayes didn't quit, he had a stroke: > > http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188463,00.html ~| Message: http://www.houseoff

RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Nick McClure
Hayes didn't quit, he had a stroke: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188463,00.html > -Original Message- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:41 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Scientology wins vs.

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Charlie Griefer
in the US...is there really much difference? (except for the animated part) :) On 3/20/06, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mmm. > Then why do you read opinion pieces? > > Empathy may have been the wrong word. I went onto mention that the > level of responsibility of Southpark is not comparable

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Vivec
Mmm. Then why do you read opinion pieces? Empathy may have been the wrong word. I went onto mention that the level of responsibility of Southpark is not comparable to that of a Newspaper, or news channel such as the BBC or CNN. You see how stupid it becomes when one tries to compare a satirical a

RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Loathe
y. -- Tim Heald [EMAIL PROTECTED] 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:01 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now) No, that too is Satire. This is not the case with the Dutch Newspapers

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Vivec
No, that too is Satire. This is not the case with the Dutch Newspapers which initially ran their series of Articles on Islam with accompanying writeups and editorials related to the cartoons which was not satire (and has never been described as such by the Newspaper in question, nor the editor who

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think the comments have exactly the opposite effect, Mike. By having an ignorant, childish character say such things, obviously not actually meaning it and probably parroting back something they heard, in situations where it doesn't really fit, it highlights just how stupid such epithets are. I

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Too late. Already done it in the super best friends episode, but that might have gone under the radar. No protests about the use of Mohammed's likeness. > Hey Gel, what if an SP episode were to feature cartoons of Mohammed? > >> BS. >> South Park is satire, and is free speech. >> >> We shoul

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Michael Dinowitz
And any group that is offended has the right to be offended when a negative stereotype is used. I can laugh about it once. Maybe twice, but when it's ongoing and will influence what people think about Jews, then I worry. And yes, things in media influence what people think and feel. I know it may

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread G
Hey, it was an honest question. I was making no equivocations! > So what if it did? > > Are you trying to equate a National Newspaper to a Comedy Satire show? > LOL! > > Try again. > > On 3/20/06, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hey Gel, what if an SP episode were to feature cartoons of Mohamme

RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Loathe
, March 20, 2006 11:42 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now) So what if it did? Are you trying to equate a National Newspaper to a Comedy Satire show? LOL! Try again. On 3/20/06, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Gel, what if an SP episode were t

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Vivec
So what if it did? Are you trying to equate a National Newspaper to a Comedy Satire show? LOL! Try again. On 3/20/06, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Gel, what if an SP episode were to feature cartoons of Mohammed? ~| M

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread G
The OBL episode never mentioned Mohammedi don't think. >> Hey Gel, what if an SP episode were to feature cartoons of Mohammed? > > erm... it has... hasn't it? > > or was that just OBL? > > > -- > will > > "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; > and that would just be unacceptab

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread William Bowen
> Hey Gel, what if an SP episode were to feature cartoons of Mohammed? erm... it has... hasn't it? or was that just OBL? -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread G
Hey Gel, what if an SP episode were to feature cartoons of Mohammed? > BS. > South Park is satire, and is free speech. > > We should never give up our right to question, and our right to satire > and humor. > South Park has a right to poke satirical commentary at Scientology. > > If Tom Cruise

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Vivec
BS. South Park is satire, and is free speech. We should never give up our right to question, and our right to satire and humor. South Park has a right to poke satirical commentary at Scientology. If Tom Cruise and his ilk don't like it, they can take whatever action they want. Their problem is th

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread DRE
Aaack, I just wasted 30 minutes! On 3/19/06, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Seems that the show that loves to piss people off went too far when it > > offended the 'religion' of scientology. Tom Cruise reportedly made > > threats to force comedy central to pull the repeat of th

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Jerry Johnson
Now, the funny thing with the Scientology episode (which I watched again last night), I got the impression they were making fun of all the people in real life commenting on Tom needing to come out of the closet rather than actually making fun of Tom. I also liked the random merging of Scientology

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Ben Doom
Michael Dinowitz wrote: > A once in a while stereotype is one thing but they're negative references to > Jews is in almost every episode. I can laugh at the bris episode where they > show a maple leaf symbol type of tool but for it to continuously go into how > Jews are cheap or different or som

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Raymond Camden
IL PROTECTED] > 703-300-3911 > -Original Message- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:48 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now) > > A once in a while stereotype is one thing but they&#

RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-20 Thread Loathe
Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:48 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now) A once in a while stereotype is one thing but they're negative references to Jews is in almost every episode. I can laugh at the bris episode where they s

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-19 Thread Michael Dinowitz
hell. > > > -- > Tim Heald > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 703-300-3911 > -Original Message- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:11 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now) > >

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-19 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Right. Hayes can put up with every other religion being beaten upon but his own. There's almost a negative Jewish reference per episode and he had no problem with it ('don't be a Jew stan' when stan says he doesn't want to spend his money). As for cruise, it's all 'behind the scenes'. It'll

RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-19 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:38 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now) > > To be fair, unlike Cruise, Isaac Hayes just left the show, which to > m

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-19 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I think being able to accept that people will make jokes about you that you don't like is an absolute requirement if you choose to be a celebrity. Granted it's harder to reneig on celebrity status once you've got it, but Johnny Dep for example is nearly off the radar now in spite of still making th

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-19 Thread Charlie Griefer
Well, Isaac Hayes might not have the kind of influence that Tom Cruise does :) Walking away is (in my own very humble opinion) his way of "throwing a fit". Which I would have been ok with if not for the fact that I find it to be terribly hypocritical that he's made a good deal of money making fun

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-19 Thread Raymond Camden
I'm just saying. There is a difference between walking away, which is what he did, and what Tom Cruise MAY have done, used his power to have the show pulled off the air. I think what he did was fair. We all have a place, whaever it is, where things cant go, by that I mean where jokes should not go.

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-19 Thread Charlie Griefer
Right...he didn't want to be associated with the show anymore because he was offended by the Scientology episode. He had no problems cashing checks he earned from shows that made fun of any other religion tho. On 3/19/06, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To be fair, unlike Cruise, Isaa

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-19 Thread Raymond Camden
To be fair, unlike Cruise, Isaac Hayes just left the show, which to me, is the -right- way to protest. He simply didn't want to be associated with the show anymore (from what I read.) On 3/18/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seems that the show that loves to piss people off went t

RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-19 Thread Loathe
I so wish there was a way to download stuff off of youtube. -- Tim Heald [EMAIL PROTECTED] 703-300-3911 -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 3:15 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now

Re: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-19 Thread Jochem van Dieten
> Seems that the show that loves to piss people off went too far when it > offended the 'religion' of scientology. Tom Cruise reportedly made > threats to force comedy central to pull the repeat of the episode, > Isaac Hayes left and the creators have joined forces with the evil > Xenu (ask a s

RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-19 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
ugh at any. I think mick jokes are funny as > shit. > That episode in specific was funny as hell. > -- > Tim Heald > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 703-300-3911 > -Original Message- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:

RE: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-19 Thread Loathe
ichael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 12:11 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now) Seems that the show that loves to piss people off went too far when it offended the 'religion' of scientology. Tom Cruise reportedly mad

Scientology wins vs. South Park (for now)

2006-03-18 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Seems that the show that loves to piss people off went too far when it offended the 'religion' of scientology. Tom Cruise reportedly made threats to force comedy central to pull the repeat of the episode, Isaac Hayes left and the creators have joined forces with the evil Xenu (ask a scientologis