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2010-09-30 Thread denstar
that there really is no true chaos as even things that may seem > chaotic are still bound to the laws of physics and other natural laws. > > -Original Message- > From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:55 PM > To: cf-community >

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2010-09-30 Thread Eric Roberts
: Talking about the religious right... It's *amazing* how hard it is to be truly random. :Den -- Fanatics are picturesque, mankind would rather see gestures than listen to reasons. Friedrich Nietzsche On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Doesn't chaos theo

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2010-09-30 Thread Eric Roberts
That's what I read into it too Den hehehe -Original Message- From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:54 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > >

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2010-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
chaos theory boil down, in really really really simplistic terms, to >> chaos is order and vice versa? I haven't really studied it, but that's the >> impression I've gotten. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail

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2010-09-30 Thread Judah McAuley
. > > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 9:39 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... > > > I've been struggling trying to understand Chaos theory for the last &

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2010-09-30 Thread denstar
It's *amazing* how hard it is to be truly random. :Den -- Fanatics are picturesque, mankind would rather see gestures than listen to reasons. Friedrich Nietzsche On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Doesn't chaos theory boil down, in really really really simplistic terms, to

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2010-09-30 Thread denstar
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "Religion and politics are poor bedfellows." > > In a democratic republic, they sure do make strange bedfellows. I'd go so far as to say whatever the form of government. > They seem to be spooning in  totalitarian regimes like Iran. I saw

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2010-09-30 Thread Sisk, Kris
September 30, 2010 9:39 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... I've been struggling trying to understand Chaos theory for the last several years. If I understand it correctly (to those more mathematically inclined on the list please correct me if I'm wrong he

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2010-09-30 Thread Larry C. Lyons
g something out of nothing.  His "let there be light" was >> really the big bang that started it all. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:23 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subj

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2010-09-30 Thread Scott Stroz
direction they were going so he throws in a curve ball from time to time to >> destroy life or almost destroy it so it can start again.  That makes more >> sense than creating something out of nothing.  His "let there be light" was >> really the big bang that starte

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2010-09-30 Thread Scott Stewart
l Message- > From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:23 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > >> >> Bah. I share that faith

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2010-09-29 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
>Here's a pic from a Creation museum. > > > >http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1611134206 >213364&ref=notif¬if_t=feed_comment#!/photo.php?pid=188828&id=11064625 >587&ref=notif¬if_t=like> >&v=wall&story_fbid=151

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2010-09-29 Thread Scott Stroz
: cf-community > Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... > > > How did we get from riding a toy dinosaur to religion and politics? > > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:45 PM, denstar wrote: >> >> I was reading a National Geographic (I think) about the evol

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2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
It was in a creation museum, which is also a combination of religion and politics... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:05 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... How did we get from riding a

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2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Different context...and it's even a CF site :-D -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... What if it were a dinosaur museuum? http://dinosuar.org/a5

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2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
LOL -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:05 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sam wrote: > I've seen purple dinosaurs with saddles in

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2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Unfortunately, this was a museum, not a supermarket... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:35 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... I've seen purple dinosaurs with saddles in fro

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2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Never know...them squirrels can be real assholes -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:03 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... > > I love the dinosaurs next to the little girl fee

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2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
ot;let there be light" was really the big bang that started it all. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:23 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Sisk, K

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2010-09-29 Thread Jerry Barnes
"Religion and politics are poor bedfellows." In a democratic republic, they sure do make strange bedfellows. They seem to be spooning in totalitarian regimes like Iran. J - “Listen, he’s a nice person, but he couldn’t sell watermelons if you gave him the state troopers to flag down traffic.”

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2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Probably...well from the slides I saw from an MIT exhibit, at least the trees were correct... -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:camer...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:18 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... On Tue

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2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
...@gckschools.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:15 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Talking about the religious right... Bah. I share that faith and you'd never catch me saying something so ridiculous. Believing that God created the world does NOT require the installation of an off swit

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2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
ROFL -Original Message- From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:14 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... > > "This is a creature meant to eat fruits and nuts." > which are ripped from the stomach

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2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
r 29, 2010 1:07 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Talking about the religious right... Actually the thing with Jericho depends upon which archeologist you listen to. Every twenty years or so a new one comes along and debunks the previous one so the consensus keeps flipping as to whether or not the even

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2010-09-29 Thread denstar
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Sam wrote: > > How did we get from riding a toy dinosaur to religion and politics? Right? :Den -- Does wisdom perhaps appear on the earth as a raven which is inspired by the smell of carrion? Friedrich Nietzsche

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2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Sam wrote: > Just saying, there's is nothing odd about a museum that has dinosaurs > on display to offer a dino ride. "there's is nothing [ironic] about a museum that has dinosaurs on display to offer a dino ride." True. "there's is nothing [ironic] about a cre

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2010-09-29 Thread Sam
Just saying, there's is nothing odd about a museum that has dinosaurs on display to offer a dino ride. If you want to cry about the museum itself cry about the girl next to the dino. That parts weird. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:03 P

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2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Sam wrote: > What if it were a dinosaur museuum? Eh - no irony there really... -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michae

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2010-09-29 Thread Sam
How did we get from riding a toy dinosaur to religion and politics? On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:45 PM, denstar wrote: > > I was reading a National Geographic (I think) about the evolution of > whales (fascinating stuff), which apparently had been one of the "god > must have done it" pillars, lik

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2010-09-29 Thread Sam
What if it were a dinosaur museuum? http://dinosuar.org/a511390-kota-dinosaur-tricaretops-the-ride-on.cfm On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sam wrote: >> I've seen purple dinosaurs with saddles in front of supermarkets that >> you ac

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2010-09-29 Thread Sam
And it only cost a quarter On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > so that's how you got your drivers license. > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> I've seen purple dinosaurs with saddles in front of supermarkets that >> you actually have to pay to ride. >> >

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2010-09-29 Thread denstar
I was reading a National Geographic (I think) about the evolution of whales (fascinating stuff), which apparently had been one of the "god must have done it" pillars, like the evolution of the eye... but no more. I think preying on people's religion for political gain is pretty lame. Religion a

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2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
so that's how you got your drivers license. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sam wrote: > > I've seen purple dinosaurs with saddles in front of supermarkets that > you actually have to pay to ride. > > As for what's inside the museum, that's a different story. > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:17 PM

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2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sam wrote: > I've seen purple dinosaurs with saddles in front of supermarkets that > you actually have to pay to ride. I've seen horses outside of supermarkets too. But then if the horse is outside of a "cowboy denial" museum, it would mean something different.

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2010-09-29 Thread Sam
I've seen purple dinosaurs with saddles in front of supermarkets that you actually have to pay to ride. As for what's inside the museum, that's a different story. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Sam wrote: >> That is cute. >> >> Yo

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2010-09-29 Thread Medic
> > I love the dinosaurs next to the little girl feeding a squirrel > a carrot...yeah right...little girl would have been ripped to pieces. > By the squirrel? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/A

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2010-09-29 Thread G Money
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Bah. I share that faith and you'd never catch me saying something so > ridiculous. Believing that God created the world does NOT require the > installation of an off switch in your brain. > Judging from your posts on this listno, you d

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2010-09-29 Thread Cameron Childress
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Sam wrote: > That is cute. > > You do realize it's a ride in the lobby not an exhibit right? Soo. It's the ***LEAST*** ridiculous thing on display in the museum? -Cameron ~| Order

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2010-09-29 Thread Sisk, Kris
12:12 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right... How? Their reason has been subjugated in the name of their faith. -- Glittering prizes and endless compromises Shatter the illusion of integrity ~|

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2010-09-29 Thread Medic
> > "This is a creature meant to eat fruits and nuts." > which are ripped from the stomachs of carrot feeding children. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinow

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2010-09-29 Thread G Money
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > Seriously, how can anyone look at a raptor (just as an example since > it's the most ludicrous one I can think of) and say "This is a creature > meant to eat fruits and nuts." > How? Their reason has been subjugated in the name of their fa

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2010-09-29 Thread Sisk, Kris
nk of) and say "This is a creature meant to eat fruits and nuts." -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:36 AM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Talking about the religious right... I was looking at the slide

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2010-09-29 Thread Eric Roberts
the little girl feeding a squirrel a carrot...yeah right...little girl would have been ripped to pieces. -Original Message- From: William Bowen [mailto:william.bo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:44 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Talking about the religious right...

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2010-09-29 Thread Sam
Um, we're talking about a saddle on a ride at the museum exit. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:43 AM, William Bowen wrote: > >> That is cute. > > That's not "cute" Sam, it's nuts. > >> You do realize it's a ride in the lobby not an exhibit right? > > So the exhibits depicting dinosaurs and humans to

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2010-09-29 Thread G Money
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:43 AM, William Bowen wrote: > > > That is cute. > > That's not "cute" Sam, it's nuts. > > > You do realize it's a ride in the lobby not an exhibit right? > > So the exhibits depicting dinosaurs and humans together in the same > "Garden of Eden" or "Before the Fall" insi

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2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
And pay for it too. that's the astounding part of it, that people would actually pay for this sh*t. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:31 AM, G Money wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > >> >> I can't look at that right now (internet filters, grrr) but if it's >> anything lik

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2010-09-29 Thread William Bowen
> That is cute. That's not "cute" Sam, it's nuts. > You do realize it's a ride in the lobby not an exhibit right? So the exhibits depicting dinosaurs and humans together in the same "Garden of Eden" or "Before the Fall" inside the museum don't bother you at all? http://web.mit.edu/gjordan/www/

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2010-09-29 Thread G Money
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Sisk, Kris wrote: > > I can't look at that right now (internet filters, grrr) but if it's > anything like the one I went to in Arkansaswell let me put it this > way: I'm a firm believer in intelligent design and even I thought those > people needed to crack a

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2010-09-29 Thread Larry C. Lyons
to:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:58 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Talking about the religious right... > > > Here's a pic from a Creation museum. > > > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1611134206 > <http://www.

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2010-09-28 Thread Sisk, Kris
nted themselves allowed me to understand exactly why the rest of the world thinks we're nuts. -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 9:58 PM To: cf-community Subject: Talking about the religious right... Here

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2010-09-28 Thread Sam
That is cute. You do realize it's a ride in the lobby not an exhibit right? On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Here's a pic from a Creation museum. > > > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1611134206 >

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2010-09-27 Thread Eric Roberts
Here's a pic from a Creation museum. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1611134206 &v=wall&story_fbid=151043221336