Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
here are a few tutorial sites to start off with: CSS Layouts: http://www.glish.com/css/ http://www.webreference.com/authoring/style/sheets/layout/advanced/ Basic 2 column layout: http://www.pmob.co.uk/faqcss/tutorial01/tt1.htm 3 columns layout with header and footer:

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Kevin Graeme
I will second these book recommendations. Personally, I think they're the best place to start out rather than jumping in at the deep end and trying to build something yourself. Sure there are a lot of sites on the web with great information, but they also often offer conflicting practices. On

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
How I started was to start with a site redesign - and slowly figured out, with the aide of both books and sites, how to set things up using CSS. It took a while but I think its worth it. Instead of having to rework a layout to accomodate a new navigation bar link, now its just a matter of putting

RE: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:59 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Time to get with the program... here are a few tutorial sites to start off with: CSS Layouts: I agree that they're well worth looking at... but I

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Deanna Schneider
You know, the thing that irks me is specificity issues - or my poor understanding of them. Say, for example, you have a table, you can give it a class and then do all your styling based off the the table structure. So, for example, look at this css. table.dashboard th { text-align: left; }

RE: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Ian Skinner
Subject: Re: Time to get with the program... You know, the thing that irks me is specificity issues - or my poor understanding of them. Say, for example, you have a table, you can give it a class and then do all your styling based off the the table structure. So, for example, look

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Deanna Schneider
AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Time to get with the program... You know, the thing that irks me is specificity issues - or my poor understanding of them. Say, for example, you have a table, you can give it a class and then do all your styling based off the the table

RE: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Ian Skinner
Subject: Re: Time to get with the program... Yah, I recognize all those solutions. I'm just saying it sorta irks me, anyway. In this particular case, ID is not an option unless I want to wrap the whole page in a div (another option!), as there are multiple tables that are all

RE: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:56 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Time to get with the program... You know, the thing that irks me is specificity issues - or my poor understanding of them. Say, for example, you

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Kevin Graeme
/me launches nerf ICBM On 7/26/05, Deanna Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See - there are just too darn many ways to do stuff with CSS and I never know which is the best way, cause I haven't done enough to have a nice little css methodology. And, that darn Kevin keeps changing his mind

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Deanna Schneider
On 7/26/05, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: body id=content sometimes overlooked solution to just tag the body. /body Now of course if there are elements on the page that do not belong in the dashboard container, then this would not work. Or if you're using templates, and the

RE: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Ian Skinner
Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning -Original Message- From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:28 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Time to get

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Kevin Graeme
She's just getting a dig in at me. I'm the UI guy but I'm working on a Flash project right now. But I'm bogged down on ActionScript. Flash is so not designer-friendly anymore. -Kevin On 7/26/05, Ian Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the hell am I doing the prototyping for anyway? I suck at

RE: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-26 Thread Ian Skinner
And I'm completely happy to leave the UI to you designer types, just as long as you have an understanding of web design and that it DOES NOT EQUAL print. PS. Just jumping on the venting bandwagon. Been fighting for a couple of weeks to develop a system that people want to look just like the

Time to get with the program...

2005-07-25 Thread CF-DEV
Ok I have always been using table layouts with some CSS properties to achieve the look and feel of a website. But now ready to tackle converting it all to CSS. What are some good resources to start with? TIA! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version:

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-25 Thread Dana
www.csszengarden.com On 7/25/05, CF-DEV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok I have always been using table layouts with some CSS properties to achieve the look and feel of a website. But now ready to tackle converting it all to CSS. What are some good resources to start with? TIA! -- No

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-25 Thread Tony Weeg
dont drop tables forever, they are GOOD. they have their place. fixed width triple column pages, and even dynamic width triple column tables and some really tricky slicing etc, can still be done WELL with tables. css = good css != the answer to everything i love it and use it, just dont go into

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-25 Thread Paul Ihrig
DO IT ALL WITH FRAMES. i do. then nest 8 tables and if you want to look coo throw in a few dozen unnamed div tags with 2 arial times fonts defined in your css ~| This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by

Re: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-25 Thread Tony Weeg
RIGHT! sure. GREAT idea. i hope there was a tongue in your cheek ;) tw On 7/25/05, Paul Ihrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DO IT ALL WITH FRAMES. i do. then nest 8 tables and if you want to look coo throw in a few dozen unnamed div tags with 2 arial times fonts defined in your css

RE: Time to get with the program...

2005-07-25 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 8:31 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Time to get with the program... DO IT ALL WITH FRAMES. i do. then nest 8 tables and if you want to look coo throw in a few dozen unnamed div tags