Re: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Judith Dinowitz
LOL. : ) Thanks, you made my night! Judith > bored? :) > > -Original Message- > DUKE DUKE DUKE > DUKE OF URL > DUKE DUKE > DUKE OF URL > DUKE DUKE > DUKE OF URL > DUKE DUKE > > AS IiIIHI, walk through this world > Nothing is unimpossible, if you go to this urrl (http://www.

Re: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Ben Doom
> If it is AN Uniform, then it's An Uniform Resource Locator, or AN URL. > > But I could be wrong. Yes, you could.  :-) "A URL" if you pronounce the U like in unicorn.  That is, "you are ell" or "yerl". "An URL" if you pronounce the U like in urba.  That is, "erl". Presuming you pronounce "un

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Angel Stewart
Yes, but we are referring to the word Uniform. So..do you say A Uniform or An uniform? I think if you say A uniform then it should be a URL. If it is AN Uniform, then it's An Uniform Resource Locator, or AN URL. But I could be wrong. -Gel -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner

Re: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Philip Arnold
I very rarely pronounce acronyms as a word, otherwise it gets confusing to clients I've spoken to people who pronounce URL as "earl" (Judith springs to mind) and "yurl", and it takes a second to realise what they're talking about You can get silly pronouncing acronyms as words: FBI as fee-bee CIA

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Tyler Silcox
being made into a movie by Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston's production company for a summer release next year.) Tyler    _   From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 3:02 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: URL grammar It's a long "U", so it s

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Tyler Silcox
It's a long "U", so it should be an "a", not an "an"... Tyler    _   From: Monique Boea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:51 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: URL grammar The PROPER way to do it is a URL ("A Uniform Re

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Marlon Moyer
I'm afraid if I pronounced it as "an EARL", someone would come up behind me and do the Heimlich maneuver... Marlon > -Original Message- > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:44 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re

Re: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Charlie Griefer
y'know what?  (not that this topic hasn't already been beaten to death)... I think that the word preceding the letters 'URL' would probably actually lead me in how I pronounce it. If I see "a URL", I'd probably read it as "a YOO-ARE-EL" (who, coincidentally enough, was Superman's third cousin on

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Ian Skinner
Isn't there a hard and fast rule that before a vowel you use an? SO whether it is an URL, or an Uniform Resource Locater, it's still before a vowel? -Gel The rule is "a" before a consonant and "an" before vowels or vowel-like sounds.  It's how the next word is pronounced not spelled. We use

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Dharmesh Goel
Very good information to have. Thanks. DG -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:23 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: URL grammar Looks like Bob is right on the money. Using articles with abbreviations and acronyms: One of the

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Ian Skinner
You seem to be in the majority.  I found a rather dated survey that indicated 87% of the responders pronounce it "you are el", 8% pronounce it "earl" and 3% pronounce it "yurl."   So under the general rule of writing to your audience I would go with "a URL" On a side note though, it has no relevan

Re: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Ben Doom
Not bored.  brobborb.  They're even spelled differently.  :-\ --BenD Monique Boea wrote: > bored? :) > > -Original Message- > From: brobborb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:41 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: URL grammar > &

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Monique Boea
bored? :) -Original Message- From: brobborb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:41 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: URL grammar DUKE DUKE DUKE DUKE OF URL DUKE DUKE DUKE OF URL DUKE DUKE DUKE OF URL DUKE DUKE AS IiIIHI, walk through this world Nothing is

Re: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread brobborb
Message -   From: Judith Dinowitz   To: CF-Community   Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:40 PM   Subject: Re: URL grammar   Thanks, everyone, for all of your help.   We've decided to go with the use of "a" here, as it seems to be the proper writing style, despite the difference i

Re: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Howie Hamlin
"Earl" is how my grandmother used to say "oil" - Brooklynese   - Original Message -   From: Judith Dinowitz   To: CF-Community   Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:40 PM   Subject: Re: URL grammar   Thanks, everyone, for all of your help.   We've decided to go

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Tangorre, Michael
YES! THE 'A's WIN!!! AN people are a bunch of losers! Mike > We've decided to go with the use of "a" here, as it seems to > be the proper writing style, despite the difference in > pronunciation between "You R L" and "EARL." [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsub

Re: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Judith Dinowitz
Thanks, everyone, for all of your help. We've decided to go with the use of "a" here, as it seems to be the proper writing style, despite the difference in pronunciation between "You R L" and "EARL." Sometimes I think English grammar is nuts. Most people I know pronounce it "EARL," including myse

Re: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Kevin Graeme
The Queen's English (an) or American, Harvard Manual of Style, English (a)? :-) Also, I never pronounce the initialism "URL" to sound like "earl". I say "duke". Really though, I say "you are ell" which would use an "an" anyway. If I were to say "earl" none of my clients would know what I was tal

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Ian Skinner
Looks like Bob is right on the money. Using articles with abbreviations and acronyms: One of the most often asked questions about grammar has to do with the choice of articles - a, an, the - to precede an abbreviation or acronym. Do we say an FBI agent or a FBI agent? Although "F" is obviously a

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Monique Boea
There's GOT to be exceptions "AN URL" just does not sound right "Do you have AN URL for Microsoft?" -Original Message- From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1:12 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: URL grammar Isn

Re: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Ben Doom
> Some people pronounce it 'YURL' tho...in which case it would be 'a'. > > I really didn't help at all there, did I :) > > (final answer would be that I believe 'EARL' is the proper pronunciation of > the acronym, so 'a' is correct) I pronounce it "you are ell", which would be a vote for "a". -

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Angel Stewart
Isn't there a hard and fast rule that before a vowel you use an? SO whether it is an URL, or an Uniform Resource Locater, it's still before a vowel? -Gel --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.712 / Virus Databas

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Monique Boea
I've never heard it pronounced as "EARL" funny -Original Message- From: brobborb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:52 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: URL grammar Use "an" of the "word" starts with a vowel, use "

Re: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread brobborb
ions of URL are acceptable, but assuming they do, you must use "a" and "an" respectively. An "Earl" is used for this A "You Are El" is used for this.   - Original Message -----   From: Michael Dinowitz   To: CF-Community   Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 1

Re: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Charlie Griefer
which case it would be 'a'. I really didn't help at all there, did I :) (final answer would be that I believe 'EARL' is the proper pronunciation of the acronym, so 'a' is correct) - Original Message - From: "Monique Boea" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> T

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Tangorre, Michael
From my fiance (BS education, MS English)... "a" Mike > I'm done with the SES article (and it rocks) but there's one > issue that we're stuck on. I like to write sentences talking > about URLs like the following: > "...an URL is used for this..." > Judith thinks that because URL is an acronym

Re: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Jim Campbell
Say "an URL" and "a URL" out loud.  If you're pronouncing it as an acronym, "a" is appropriate.  If you're rhyming it with "Duke of", then "an" is the better choice. - Jim Michael Dinowitz wrote: >I'm done with the SES article (and it rocks) but there's one issue that we're >stuck on. I like t

RE: URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Monique Boea
The PROPER way to do it is a URL ("A Uniform Resource Locator" Not "AN Uniform Resource Locator") My opinion -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: URL grammar I

URL grammar

2004-07-08 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I'm done with the SES article (and it rocks) but there's one issue that we're stuck on. I like to write sentences talking about URLs like the following: "...an URL is used for this..." Judith thinks that because URL is an acronym, it should be "...a URL is used for this..." The difference is betwee