Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-04 Thread denstar
DAMN Obama can rock a conversation, neh? I hoped for change and I got it. Most of it good, too, which for politics, is like knocking it out of the freaking park. :Den -- The analysis of concepts is for the understanding nothing more than what the magnifying glass is for sight. Moses

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-04 Thread Robert Munn
Dude, he's the President. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Eric Roberts ow...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote: That is not Obama...Obama has been quite clear that it is a penalty for not complying...not a tax. ~| Order the

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-04 Thread Jerry Barnes
Dude, he's the President. The buck stops here. Or does it? J - Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny - Thomas Jefferson on government

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-04 Thread Jerry Barnes
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2010/07/the_university_of_virginia_hol.html Cuccinelli wants UVA to turn over records pertaining to global warming research to make sure public funding was not used to commit fraud. Don't see a problem with this one. Anyone receiving public

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-03 Thread Jerry Barnes
Virginia is making headlines. Virginia AG: Police Can Ask for Immigration Statushttp://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0810/760630.html: In the opinion, issued Friday, Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli ruled: Virginia law enforcement officers have the authority to make the same inquiries as

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Attorney General Cuccinelli is an ass. he's wasting state money and trying to use the powers of the AG to advance his rather extremist ideologically driven agenda. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Jerry Barnes critic...@gmail.com wrote: Virginia is making headlines. Virginia AG: Police Can

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-03 Thread Jerry Barnes
he's wasting state money and trying to use the powers of the AG to advance his rather extremist ideologically driven agenda. Be specific. I'd like some more info on this guy. Do you mean the specific cases mentioned in this thread? By the way, change state to national and AG to presidency

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-03 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I won't be commenting but here are a few articles from the last 3 months or so: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2010/07/the_university_of_virginia_hol.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/22/AR2010072206100.html

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-03 Thread Jerry Barnes
I won't be commenting but here are a few articles from the last 3 months or so: I will check them out. Thanks. J - Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny - Thomas Jefferson on

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-03 Thread Robert Munn
That's just a sideline. The main event is the suit against the health care law. VA is not the only state challenging the individual purchasing mandate. No question in my mind that this suit eventually gets to the Supreme Court and the individual mandate will be struck down. The Obama

RE: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-03 Thread Eric Roberts
Except that Obama isn't trying to characterize it as a tax... -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 8:16 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward That's just a sideline

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-03 Thread Robert Munn
it as a tax... -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 8:16 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward That's just a sideline. The main event is the suit against the health

RE: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-03 Thread Eric Roberts
to characterize it as a tax... -Original Message- From: Robert Munn [mailto:cfmuns...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 8:16 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward That's just a sideline. The main event is the suit against

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-03 Thread Jerry Barnes
That is exactly how the Justice Department is trying to characterize it.. But, but, but, . . .President Obama said it wasn't a tax. Obama: Mandate is Not a Taxhttp://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/09/obama-mandate-is-not-a-tax.html STEPHANOPOULOS: You were against the individual mandate...

Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
the Health Care Law Goes Forwardhttp://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/08/02/virginia-judge-the-suit-against-the-health-care-law-goes-forward/ J - Mrs. Powel: Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy? Benjamin Franklin: A republic, if you can keep

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-02 Thread Scott Stewart
. There are several rounds of appeals left on each case. Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forwardhttp://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/08/02/virginia-judge-the-suit-against-the-health-care-law-goes-forward/ J - Mrs. Powel:  Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-02 Thread Larry C. Lyons
, the Obama suffers a defeat in its attempt to get a case against health care deform dropped. There are several rounds of appeals left on each case. Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forwardhttp://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/08/02/virginia-judge-the-suit-against-the-health-care-law

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-02 Thread Judah McAuley
to get a case against health care deform dropped. There are several rounds of appeals left on each case. Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forwardhttp://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/08/02/virginia-judge-the-suit-against-the-health-care-law-goes-forward

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-02 Thread Casey Dougall
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote: That sounds like a fairly reasonable judgement to me. It isn't like the judge put an injunction in place to stop the law provisions from taking effect, he just ruled that the issues at hand were serious enough to

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-02 Thread Judah McAuley
I understand about the marijuana case, believe me, and I disagree with it. The thing about the health insurance reform law, however, is that it is comprised of a rather large number of moving parts. I don't think you can easily affirm or toss aside the law as a whole piece. So if you want to get

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-02 Thread Judah McAuley
And, for what its worth, I think that insurance plans should be able to be sold and compete nationally which definitely makes it interstate commerce. I question the individual mandate though. I understand the arguments made by the proponents of the provision that an individual mandate is

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
also the judge was a republican activist before being appointed by a conservative governor. So what do you expect? At least the judge in AZ wasn't appointed by a Democrat, oh never mind . . . J - The Constitution does not grant rights, it recognizes them - Jason Laumark

Re: Virginia Judge: The Suit Against the Health Care Law Goes Forward

2010-08-02 Thread Jerry Barnes
This is the same Virginia State government that says it doesn't have money to pay for roads, but can pay for Cuccinelli's run to be the next RNC head? Wow. That sounds interesting. Got any links on it. J - That government is best which governs the least, because its people discipline