Myself I'm on a history bing right now, looking at the military and
political history of the Byzantium empire. AT times its really creepy
seeing the parrellells between what's happening now and what was
happening about 1200 years ago in the late Roman empire.
larry
On 10/7/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL
Sam is my hero :-)
> From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> No comment. ;)
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> That Sam I am,
> That Sam I am,
> I do not like that Sam I am!
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On 10/7/05, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't ever remember reading a book as a kid. My parents read to us but I
> never read for fun or enjoyment, ever. I still don't unless it is a Java
> book or a book on programming or some other IT topic. I think I have read 2
> complete
I've read some of the Gor books. I also like Harry Harrison, James Lee
Burke, Robert Asprin, CJ Cherryh and the aforementioned Terry Pratchett. The
latter are definitely not junk but not as self-conciously literature as say
Nicholas Sparkswhom I have never been able to read. On the pulp theme,
> Jerry wrote:
> Why oh why does he start of The Grapes of Wrath with like a 6 page
> description of the front porch.
>
Ha! That book is so funny. Of course it supposed to be this big
tragedy, but it's so jokable: Rose o "sharn"; the electronics course;
the dusty wasteland. I dunno, it's just
I've tried reading Doors of Perception by Huxley a dozen times just
can't make it through the whole thing.
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From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:16 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: What Teachers Make
I have that pr
Yep, I have some "worthless" habits I slip in between the "better" stuff.
Mack Bolan (The Executioner, Stony Man, Pheonix Force, Able Team)
The Rat Bastards (WWII pacific theater)
The Destroyer
The Survivalist
the Gor books
JT Edson (The Floating Outfit series) and other pulp westerns
On 10/7/05
> Dana wrote:
> really? I thought it was a great book. Just geeky I guess.
>
I am NOT a fan of Dickens. In fact many of the gosh-they're-great
authors I've found to suck.
It's kind of like musicals. There's all this buzz around, say, Les
Miserables. What a fekking snoozer. In fact I'm sweari
well... my favorite book ever is Remembrance of Things Past. Speaking of
slow paced. Maybe it's something genetic.
Dana
On 10/7/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have that problem with Steinbeck.
>
> Why oh why does he start of The Grapes of Wrath with like a 6 page
> descriptio
I have that problem with Steinbeck.
Why oh why does he start of The Grapes of Wrath with like a 6 page
description of the front porch.
PICK UP THE PACE!
On 10/7/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ain't that the truth. I LITERALLY couldn't get past the second page.
~~
> Jerry wrote:
> I LOVE books.
>
Me too, but I go in kicks from fiction to non-fiction and then
different types. Right now I'm in my "worthless reading" kick and
I've got a Joseph Kannon going. Other authors in this kick are:
Robin Cook
WEB Griffith
James Rollins (just read most of his in one
really? I thought it was a great book. Just geeky I guess.
Dana
On 10/7/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Dana wrote:
> > I think I was in grade
> > three when I read A Tale of Two Cities.
> >
>
> That's about the only way anybody could get past the first page and a
> half.
>
>
~
Ain't that the truth. I LITERALLY couldn't get past the second page.
Matthew Small
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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:59 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: What Teachers Make
> Dana wrote:
> I think I was in gr
> Dana wrote:
> I think I was in grade
> three when I read A Tale of Two Cities.
>
That's about the only way anybody could get past the first page and a half.
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I agree. My ex and my son are kind of like that. definitely smart,
definitely *can* read, but it's not the first choice for fun. Though James
is most of the way through Terry Pratchett now I think he enjoys the
in-jokes.
Dana
On 10/7/05, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > F
Yes its OK. I just cannot understand it. I LOVE books. (And music and
movies and tv and video games)
I also cannot understand guys that KNOW they can pick up any girl.
I cannot understand thinking your race/religion/gender is inherantly
better than everyone elses.
I cannot understand people who ca
I can't concentrate on that stuff at bedtime. For study I need quiet and
someplace that I am not supposed to be cleaning. On the other hand, I read
before falling asleep every night and find it hard ot fall asleep without
doing so. As for time, well, I just take it out of the time when everyone
els
No comment. ;)
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That Sam I am,
That Sam I am,
I do not like that Sam I am!
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When I read I find a good book I get sucked in, stay up all night
reading. It's like an addiction and I try to stay away. Now I mainly
read programming books or non-fictions, which help me sleep :)
On 10/7/05, Charlie Griefer wrote:
> My wife reads anything and everything she could get her hands o
> From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I find that I just don't have the patience for a good (fiction) book.
> I wish I did, but I don't. For that, I can wait for the
> movie and rent the DVD. Plus there's just too much other
> stuff I need to learn (again, be it professional or
My wife reads anything and everything she could get her hands on. I
wish I had the time/desire.
If I do have the time to read, it's almost always a "how to" book. If
it's programming related, it might be Java, Pragmatic Programmer, or
Code Complete. Otherwise it's more along the self-help lines
> From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> i think with the advent of intellivision, and colecovision i
> lost all interest in anything that wasnt RIGHT AWAY,
> colorful, graphically AWESOME, fast, full of sounds, etc..
Reading doesn't interest everyone, and that is ok... despite what the
"expert
I should add that I enjoy audio books very much. In fact, I am almost done
with Patricia Cornwell's "Kay Scarpetta" series about a Medical Examiner
from Virginia. Very good stories. There are 7 or 8 in the series... "Blow
Fly" is the best so far!
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
the last book i read, before i discovered cliff notes was "The Catcher
in the Rye"
and i couldnt even tell you about that one.
i think with the advent of intellivision, and colecovision i lost all
interest in anything
that wasnt RIGHT AWAY, colorful, graphically AWESOME, fast, full of
sounds, etc
There isn't one real close to the new house, but I still periodically go to
the one near our old house. I also frequent a number of other bookstores
that are less friendly about trading books back in.
I've read two or three books this week. I discovered a GM Ford book I
hadn't read yet, Fury. (Thi
That Sam I am,
That Sam I am,
I do not like that Sam I am!
On 10/7/05, Dana wrote:
> You must not
> Hop on Pop.
>
> I do not like them Sam I am
> I do not like green eggs and ham
>
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I've read two fiction books since Wednesday. (The Rule of Four by Ian
Caldwell and Impossible Odds by Dave Duncan). I'll read another on the
train tonight. Plus two non-fiction books since Wednesday. (Wall Treet
Journal Guide to Understanding Personal Finance and Drawing Cars by
John Raynes). I go
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Not even Dr Seuss?
>
> The sun did not shine.
> It was too wet to play.
> So we sat in the house All that cold, cold, wet day
My parents read those books to us and I am sure I flipped through a couple
but reading just never interested me. I was always in t
You must not
Hop on Pop.
I do not like them Sam I am
I do not like green eggs and ham
On 10/7/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Not even Dr Seuss?
>
> The sun did not shine.
> It was too wet to play.
> So we sat in the house All that cold, cold, wet day
>
>
> On 10/7/05, Michael T. T
I don't recall ever getting accused of lying like that, except in
Kindergarten by a substitute. She told me I couldn't read, and told me
to demonstrate. So I started reading posters on the wall. She then
told me "You just memorized what the words look like!" By then I was
terrified, but rem
Not even Dr Seuss?
The sun did not shine.
It was too wet to play.
So we sat in the house All that cold, cold, wet day
On 10/7/05, Michael T. Tangorre wrote:
>
>
>
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When I was in grade school (a French-language convent school in Edmonton)
they used to let me go help the librarian, for hours on end sometimes. I am
not really sure why in retrospect; I was learning French from scratch at the
time. Possibly this was during English class? Anyway, I went all through
> From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Heh. I read all of those around 3rd or 4th grade. My
> Book-It requirements were double or more what the other kids
> in the class had to read. On the other hand, I was reading 2
> Hardy Boys books a week, and 1 was enough to cover it.
>
> I
Cameron Childress wrote:
> During the 5th or 6th grade I read all the Hardy Boys Mystery books in
> the entire School Library - about one per day for a long time. My
> favorite was accidentally bound upside-down and it always looked funny
> when I read it during class. My teachers always thought
hehe ;)
On 10/7/05, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dana wrote:
> > And we all know that all children need to be saved from their parents.
> > Don't get me wrong, some do...but the system assumes all. I can't tell
> you
> > how many time I was told to read to my children, wtf.
>
> I think
On 10/7/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, you kept one attribute.
>
> I remember waiting for the bookmobile every tuesday in a parking lot
> in Honolulu. I could get three books (the same as my age), and then I
> would get a 25 cent root beer float at the ice cream truck.
During
Well, you kept one attribute.
I remember waiting for the bookmobile every tuesday in a parking lot
in Honolulu. I could get three books (the same as my age), and then I
would get a 25 cent root beer float at the ice cream truck.
At that age, it was all about Curious George and Winnie the Pooh.
O
Dana wrote:
> And we all know that all children need to be saved from their parents.
> Don't get me wrong, some do...but the system assumes all. I can't tell you
> how many time I was told to read to my children, wtf.
I think it was my Dad who told me that when I was about 3, some nice
little la
she has never paid a dime, and is CERTAINLY my highest trafficed client
s'ok, she has special reprieve.
agreed.
thread done
:) ciao
On 10/6/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ok. -that- was funny.
>
> let's end this thread on a high note :)
>
> On 10/6/05, Michael Tangorre <[EMAI
ok. -that- was funny.
let's end this thread on a high note :)
On 10/6/05, Michael Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > my mother is a teacher, and is a saint ;)
>
> So stop charging her hosting!!! :-)
>
>
>
>
~
> From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> my mother is a teacher, and is a saint ;)
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hehe, nice.
On 10/6/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> lynx browser and a 2800 baud modem? She'd have to have the patience of
> a saint for that.
>
> larry
>
> On 10/6/05, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > my mother is a teacher, and is a saint ;)
> >
> > she was a catholic nun pr
lynx browser and a 2800 baud modem? She'd have to have the patience of
a saint for that.
larry
On 10/6/05, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> my mother is a teacher, and is a saint ;)
>
> she was a catholic nun prior to meeting my father
> after she decided to have a family.
>
> she is truly a sai
my mother is a teacher, and is a saint ;)
she was a catholic nun prior to meeting my father
after she decided to have a family.
she is truly a saint, trust me.
www.globalclassroom.org
thats her, she's been doing it since her first lynx browser
and our first 2800 baud modem... no one alive with
>
> of course. However, this would be the same teacher who told me that she
> has pupils who don't know their names or their colors, whereas mine is not
> only reading but so far ahead she is in her own reading group, and what was
> my kid's problem again? And oh by the way, she is on the honor rol
"in the real world, you don't always get to do what you want to do."
That's where I was getting this. If it's not what you meant, my apologies
for reading in, but it's one of the more common arguments for compulsory
school (whether needed or not).
Dana
On 10/6/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECT
Bravo!!
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Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:04 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: What Teachers Make
we're all online enough that i'm sure we all get innundated with these
things daily.
this is one of the (very)
it disappointed.
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From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:53 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: What Teachers Make
ok, so in your opinion also, the role of this teacher in this situation
--
admittedly not of either the teacher's or th
> I can't tell you how many time I was told to read to my children, wtf.
So was/am I. I choose not to take it as an insult. And, given the
opportunity, might reply, "I do, regularly, I think my children's
performance in their studies speaks to that fact."
slight smile. turn and walk away. What's
And we all know that all children need to be saved from their parents.
Don't get me wrong, some do...but the system assumes all. I can't tell you
how many time I was told to read to my children, wtf.
Dana
On 10/6/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I was going to say, it was a gre
I was going to say, it was a great little piece. Reminds me of those
teachers that helped to save me as a kid.
lkarry
On 10/6/05, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why does everyone have to comment on everything? Can we just step back, read
> something, and think about it... why do
we're all online enough that i'm sure we all get innundated with these
things daily.
this is one of the (very) few that I felt was worthy enough of passing on.
beauty, eye, beholder, all that :)
On 10/6/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have friends who are AOL users who forward me four or
On 10/6/05, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why does everyone have to comment on everything? Can we just step back, read
> something, and think about it... why does it always have to turn into some
> war on here? Way to take a nice poem supporting one of the hardest jobs in
> the w
exactly, it's about the disempowerment we take for granted while talking
about how great it is that someone is doing such a tough job.
Dana
On 10/6/05, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 10/6/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > FWIW, I saw this on Mike's blog and
I have friends who are AOL users who forward me four or five of these things
a day. If it isn't teachers it's mothers.
Dana
On 10/6/05, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Why does everyone have to comment on everything? Can we just step back,
> read
> something, and think about i
I've never encountered any conventional wisdom that would suggest that
all teachers are saints. nor would I apply a blanket generalization
to...well, to anything really.
Yes, there are bad teachers. There are bad cops. There are good politicians.
They're hopefully the minority. As a whole (an
On 10/6/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FWIW, I saw this on Mike's blog and suggested that he post it here. I
> didn't expect it to start a war. I just saw it as a very cool tribute
> to teachers.
You can't fool me - you're not new here...
Seriously though, it was kinda cool, I
Why does everyone have to comment on everything? Can we just step back, read
something, and think about it... why does it always have to turn into some
war on here? Way to take a nice poem supporting one of the hardest jobs in
the world and turn it into a debate about whether or not study hall serv
requires self-discipline (what do I need to learn, how much
> time should I spend on this subject, what is the best way to get the
> information I need etc..).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:38 PM
> To
it's very moving and true of many teachers. Just not all of them, as
conventional wisdom would have use believe;P
Dana
On 10/6/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> FWIW, I saw this on Mike's blog and suggested that he post it here. I
> didn't expect it to start a war. I just saw it
Teachers Make
if it's self discipline why enforce it? Say kids, you are expected to
know
x, and expect them to know it. And remember, in my scenario he doesn't
have
any honors books.
Dana
On 10/6/05, Ken Ketsdever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't buy it. This is
FWIW, I saw this on Mike's blog and suggested that he post it here. I
didn't expect it to start a war. I just saw it as a very cool tribute
to teachers.
Granted, my kids are 3 and 1, so I've not yet dealt with teachers as
'the parent' yet. Maybe my perception will change. Dunno.
But as the st
I agree, it isn't for everyone. But hi, here I am, never had to
study.always finished the books the first week of class. Mind you, my
school didn't have study hall, but see my point?
Dana
On 10/6/05, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 10/6/05, Ken Ketsdever <[EMAIL PROTECTED
l, self discipline, open to studying
> whatever you need or want. No standing in line, more like an
> individual's opportunity to take charge of their own education.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:17 PM
&g
On 10/6/05, Ken Ketsdever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you must look at it that way then look at as strictly enforced
> boredom during study hall, as the quote intended.
To me the concept of study hall is the problem. That's for me - as a
student - a student who would have benifited from the f
Been there, done that. When I started first grade I was close to third
grade level math. They had no advanced programs so the told me to sit
quietly and entertain myself until the other students caught up. By
third grade I had no idea how to pay attention.
On 10/6/05, Dana wrote:
> because, for ex
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I know some
Really? Interesting because I doubt you have. You mean to tell me they
couldn't work on their math skills, English skills, grammar, History,
Science, current events, reading, etc? I don't know anyone that has mastered
ALL of those! Gimme a
06, 2005 1:17 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: What Teachers Make
I know some
Dana
On 10/6/05, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > mm. Suppose you're bored because you don't need to study?
>
> D
Ray's newbie?
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Don't need to study? I don't think any kids fall into that category.
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ermmm...again...you're talking about the school itself. i'm talking
about study hall :)
On 10/6/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ok, fair enough. Here we have an advocates of schools as an agent of
> institutionalization. If school is there to teach children to stand in line,
> that is a res
Teachers Make
because, for example, you finished all the books in the first week of
class,
but you aren't allowed to take honors classes becasue you're disruptive
(bored) in the regular classes
Dana
On 10/6/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> because you
I know some
Dana
On 10/6/05, Michael T. Tangorre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > mm. Suppose you're bored because you don't need to study?
>
> Don't need to study? I don't think any kids fall into that category.
>
>
>
>
>
~~
fair enough...but that's a bigger picture.
if we're talking -just- study hall...bring the honors books with you
and study them on your own.
but getting up to get a drink of water (again, according to the
passage) -not- because you're thirsty, but because you're bored... i
think it's a life lesson
let's start from... why is the kid there again?
Dana
On 10/6/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> How does getting up and disturbing everone else and going for a drink
> help again?
>
>
> On 10/6/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > mm. Suppose you're bored because you don't need
ok, fair enough. Here we have an advocates of schools as an agent of
institutionalization. If school is there to teach children to stand in line,
that is a respectable point of view I suppose, but let's not be hypocritical
about it ;) I personally don't think such schools are needed or a good
thing
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mm. Suppose you're bored because you don't need to study?
Don't need to study? I don't think any kids fall into that category.
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because, for example, you finished all the books in the first week of class,
but you aren't allowed to take honors classes becasue you're disruptive
(bored) in the regular classes
Dana
On 10/6/05, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> because you've learned everything there is to le
How does getting up and disturbing everone else and going for a drink
help again?
On 10/6/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> mm. Suppose you're bored because you don't need to study?
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and to expand on that...
in the real world, you don't always get to do what you want to do.
study hall's boring, I guess, if you have nothing to study (altho as
previously suggested, I find that hard to accept).
this isn't about being bored in school. this is about being bored in
study hall.
if
because you've learned everything there is to learn? :)
On 10/6/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> mm. Suppose you're bored because you don't need to study?
>
> Dana
>
> On 10/6/05, Ken Ketsdever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > If you must look at it that way then look at as strictly enforc
mm. Suppose you're bored because you don't need to study?
Dana
On 10/6/05, Ken Ketsdever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If you must look at it that way then look at as strictly enforced
> boredom during study hall, as the quote intended.
>
> If you'd rather screw off than study, I'd prefer you b
If you must look at it that way then look at as strictly enforced
boredom during study hall, as the quote intended.
If you'd rather screw off than study, I'd prefer you be bored. Perhaps
you wouldn't be bored if you were studying like you are supposed to be
doing. I am not going to re-enforce
ya tell me about it... and then when the kid acts out he'll get sent to the
principal's office.
Dana
(mom to two adhd kids)
On 10/6/05, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Why won't I let you get a drink of water?
> > Because you're not thirsty, you're bored, that's why.
>
> Ahhh.
orre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 12:36 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: What Teachers Make
>
> What Teachers Make, or
> You can always go to law school if things don't work out
>
> He says the problem with teachers is, "W
> From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Where did you get that?
My wife. She is a teacher and posted it for some of her students after some
comments they made about "making it" in society. It is a poem by Taylor
Mali. http://taylormali.com/index.cfm?webid=5
> Why won't I let you get a drink of water?
> Because you're not thirsty, you're bored, that's why.
Ahhh... Strictly enforced boredom in the classroom - that's the stuff
geniuses are made of...
-Cameron
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Where did you get that?
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From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 12:36 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: What Teachers Make
What Teachers Make, or
You can always go to law school if things don't work out
He says the problem
What Teachers Make, or
You can always go to law school if things don't work out
He says the problem with teachers is, "What's a kid going to learn
from someone who decided his best option in life was to become a teacher?"
He reminds the other dinner guests that it's
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