> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 5:55 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Who else feels this woman bears some responsibility?
>
> In that case I'd really be worried if your job in the marines was your
> post's m
; Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 7:26 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Who else feels this woman bears some responsibility?
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>
> Maybe if employees in these other fields had a list server where they could
> vent their frustrations with people who understood.these kinds
t; To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Who else feels this woman bears some responsibility?
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>
> Maybe if employees in these other fields had a list server where they could
> vent their frustrations with people who understood.these kinds of
> unfortunate events could be avoi
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Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 7:26 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Who else feels this woman bears some responsibility?
Maybe if employees in these other fields had a list server where they could
vent their frustrations with people who understood.these kinds of
feels this woman bears some responsibility?
> Never heard a report of a disgruntled Cold Fusion programmer gunning down
> people at their office.
I think the word is Yet.
larry
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:25:50 -0600, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe if employees in these oth
the story: You might not want to answer pages to my office.
-Original Message-
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:31 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Who else feels this woman bears some responsibility?
2 points,
you forgot to add the next l
well, if the shoe fits
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:20:32 -0500, Larry C. Lyons
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They'd probably treat it as a slam again M$.
>
> larry
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>
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:05:49 -0600, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm suggesting that the CF-Community mailing list gives C
They'd probably treat it as a slam again M$.
larry
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:05:49 -0600, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm suggesting that the CF-Community mailing list gives CFers an outlet that
> other disciplines might not have.
>
> Try posting a burning cow manure story on
> microsoft.public
Is that a dare? I'll do it, you know...
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/28/05 11:05AM >>>
I'm suggesting that the CF-Community mailing list gives CFers an outlet that
other disciplines might not have.
Try posting a burning cow manure story on
microsoft.
I'm suggesting that the CF-Community mailing list gives CFers an outlet that
other disciplines might not have.
Try posting a burning cow manure story on
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.webcontrols
>
> So you are suggesting it is the languages that causes such outbursts? That
> my
I've never seen the Mass guy's resume.
The CT guy I actually have his resume. A friend of mine was trying to place him
at GTech (a lottery machine vendor) the week he went postal. Mostly embedded
systems programming if I remember right.
So you are suggesting it is the languages that causes such
Ain't touching that one...
At 10:25 AM 1/28/2005, you wrote:
> > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Maybe she was due a promotion if that guy was "offed"
> >
> > d'Oh! Did I just say that?
>
>Just like a Patriots fan to say something like that... Shame on you! :-)
>
>
>
>
>
~~
CF programmers?
> Well, there was a programmer up here in Mass a few years ago that went on
> a spree.
>
> And there was the programmer in CT (from my home town) that shot up
> Lottery Headquarters in Hartford.
>
> You just can't trust heavily armed geeks.
>
> Jerry Johnson
> Web Developer
> Dol
> Never heard a report of a disgruntled Cold Fusion programmer gunning down
> people at their office.
I think the word is Yet.
larry
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:25:50 -0600, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe if employees in these other fields had a list server where they could
> vent their frust
Well, there was a programmer up here in Mass a few years ago that went on a
spree.
And there was the programmer in CT (from my home town) that shot up Lottery
Headquarters in Hartford.
You just can't trust heavily armed geeks.
Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company
>>> [EMAIL PROTECT
Maybe if employees in these other fields had a list server where they could
vent their frustrations with people who understood.these kinds of
unfortunate events could be avoided :)
Never heard a report of a disgruntled Cold Fusion programmer gunning down
people at their office. How many liv
> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Maybe she was due a promotion if that guy was "offed"
>
> d'Oh! Did I just say that?
Just like a Patriots fan to say something like that... Shame on you! :-)
~|
Save $1
Maybe she was due a promotion if that guy was "offed"
d'Oh! Did I just say that?
Ray
At 10:14 AM 1/28/2005, you wrote:
>I'm wrong according to the CNN report she only called in one person.
>The second guy was not on Meyers list.
>
>larry
>
>
>On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:12:20 -0500, Larry C. Lyo
I'm wrong according to the CNN report she only called in one person.
The second guy was not on Meyers list.
larry
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:12:20 -0500, Larry C. Lyons
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also she only called in two people. One of the other people Meyer
> wanted came in coincidentally and
Also she only called in two people. One of the other people Meyer
wanted came in coincidentally and was killed, the other two were
wounded, one critically, other other in the arm.
larry
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:07:55 -0600, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Responsibility for what? Making a decision
Responsibility for what? Making a decision between her life and the life of
a co-worker?
The instigator of the situation is 100% responsible for what occurs as a
direct result of his actions, in my opinion. The gunman killed these people,
none of the other victims involved share in his culpabil
She had a gun pointed at her head. That changes everything.
Its all great to say you'd play the hero, things change when you're in
that situation. There is no blame in this case - she was forced to
call them in.
larry
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:44:28 -0500, Jerry Johnson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I didn't forget to add those lines. They were after she already called the guy
in.
And she is not legally culpable, on that I agree.
But if she truly believed that by calling the guy in she would not be killed,
but the other guy would be killed, and she called him in, then I think she does
bea
I think a lot of people would be thinking about self-preservation. I'd
probably be thinking, "if I go through the motions can I find a way
out of this for me and the guys?" But, geez, who knows. I've never had
a gun pointed at me. I'm certainly not trained for it.
I'd be wishing Kevin was around,
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:14 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Who else feels this woman bears some responsibility?
>
> Not that she wasn't in a difficult position, but do you agre
2 points,
you forgot to add the next lines:
Meanwhile, the woman then ran out of the office and warned co-workers
over the radio, police said.
also consider this psycho guy points a gun at you and tells you do
call the person in. Do you play hero and possibly get killed or comply
and quite possib
I doubt that I would have either, but you never know what the atmosphere
was like. The article never said that she summoned one of the guys that
Myers was going to shoot. Maybe he was bluffing knowing that she'd bring
him out if he claimed he wouldn't shoot that guy.
I dunno, I gotta agree, I
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Two dead, two hurt in Jeep plant shooting
> http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/27/plant.shooting.ap/index.html
> Not that she wasn't in a difficult position, but do you agree
> she knowingly summoned this guy to his death?
Such a tough situation. I wo
Two dead, two hurt in Jeep plant shooting
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/01/27/plant.shooting.ap/index.html
...
After entering the plant at about 8:30 p.m. Wednesday, Meyers had pointed the
gun at a woman in the plant's body shop office and ordered her to summon three
other people, telling her he di
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