Oh hell yeah, it's all about making a buck. News is entertainment.
I happen to be entertained by PBS shows the mostest.
Others, prefer the more, in your face, WAR BLAH BLAH CHILDREN BLAH
BLAH ECONOMY, rather... shouted conversations...
Balance is boring, and doesn't sell so good, because not ma
If we waited until we completed evaluated everything for safety all of
us would have significantly shorter lifespans. Seriously. Have any of
you ever read the patient information that comes with your
prescriptions?
Seriously, two blood clots is about right for the incidence of factor
v leiden, adj
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Sam wrote:
[...]
> - Although some states are considering making it mandatory for young girls to
> get the Gardasil vaccine,
This, I'm not really down with.
[...]
> - While Gardasil is the most expensive vaccine ever to be recommended by the
> FDA, its long-term
You simply do not understand how the process works. Moreover I trust the
scientists at the CDC ar more than any other sort of government workers. There
is a difference. When I was at ATCC I worked with some of the scientists from
CDC, I have a tremendous respect for them and their work. By and l
Odd how you TRUST the government when it suits you. Since the idiot
tagged this as a religous argument you're gung-ho supporting the gov.
If it was mearly a saftey issue you might look at it different.
This vaccine will protect 70% of the 4000 people likly to die from
Cervical cancer in the US.
Co
Thanks for the numbers Larry!
--
pass the decimal to the left hand side
time of war, to the right, doh!
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 7:40 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> so the chance of having a reaction is less than .1%. The change of dying of
> the vaccine, according to YOUR numbers
Here's a link to the report on the VAERS for Gaardasil
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaers/gardasil.htm
In a nutshell the numbers are even slighter than previously mentioned.
VAERS Reports Related to Gardasil Vaccination
June 8, 2006 through April 30, 2008
Note: VAERS defines serious adverse
so the chance of having a reaction is less than .1%. The change of dying of the
vaccine, according to YOUR numbers (frankly I'll trust the CDC's numbers
myself), is .000225%, and the chance to develop Guillain-Barre Syndrome is
.000475%.
Now compare those chances to the actual risk of getting
the blood clot numbers are very small given the known risks of oral
contraceptives:
http://www.schattauer.de/index.php?id=878&artikel=12907&cHash=bca8c2de4d
and it is the blood clot risk I keep hearing about. Don't know a thing
about Guillan-Barre but the sloppy logic shown over the supposed blood
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:12 PM, sam morris wrote:
> I would be concerned with every new vaccine; this one is on the market for
> two years even though testing ends on 9/30/2009
>
> So far:
> 8 million got the vaccines
> 8,000 had reactions
> 18 died 4 of blood clots (must have been sluts)
> 38 Gui
I have been reading Breaking the Spell, Religion as a Natural Phenomenon, by
Daniel Dennett. One of the things he talks about is how the strength of a
religion, in some way, can be measured by how thoroughly it can defy the
tenets of logic.
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Dana wrote:
> It seems s
I would be concerned with every new vaccine; this one is on the market for two
years even though testing ends on 9/30/2009
So far:
8 million got the vaccines
8,000 had reactions
18 died 4 of blood clots (must have been sluts)
38 Guillain-Barre Syndrome
the VAERS reports show that the average on
*GASPS*
Who told?
2008/7/9 Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Of course these "unsafe", "unproven", "dangerous" vaccines are only being
> issued because of - you guessed it - a huge conspiracy pillared upon big
> Phrama, a treacherous government, a complacent media and a unified, selfish
> scienti
Sample:
http://www.roguegovernment.com/news.php?id=2425
I am not going to to dignify it by pasting the content.
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> give it to girls and they will think it's ok to have sex don't you
> know. I have gotten to the point where I do not d
give it to girls and they will think it's ok to have sex don't you
know. I have gotten to the point where I do not discuss our choice. We
made one. But believe me I have heard plenty of people talk about how
they would never give this to their child, and very vehemently, too.
It does seem hard to
> -Original Message-
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 4:55 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: fundamentalists and MSM -- allow me a small rant
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I dont' see how anyone could be idealogically against the HPV vaccine.
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it may well be that the girls are telling the people giving them the
vaccine things they would not tell their fundamantalist parents. Like,
well yes, my boyfriend and I might. What tees me off though is that I
have seen half a dozen stories the past few days about how there are
reports of patients
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So a few girls taking oral contraceptives, known to represent a risk
> of blood clots, develop blood clots. So is this an oral contraceptives
> problem? N its the HPV vaccine.
I find this very odd considering the same group of p
It seems some people, who are ideologically against the HPV
vaccination, have been playing up a few deaths from blood clots. Some
of you may recall that I have had a blood clot or two... so I have
read up on the subject. As the mother of a teenage girl I also have
read up on the HPV vaccination. Gi
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