yeah, exactly, my thoughts were, "who cares" noone pays attn to
authority anymore anyway.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Vivec wrote:
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> The war crimes tribunal in the Hague is pondering issuing an arrest
> warrant for al-Bashir
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/03/04/sudan.preside
The war crimes tribunal in the Hague is pondering issuing an arrest
warrant for al-Bashir
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/03/04/sudan.president.darfur.charges/index.html?iref=topnews
Of course since the US,Russia, China, and India do not subscribe to
the powers of the International cour
I'll give you a firm, "I don't know".
Yes, it makes sense that we care about things more that occur closer
to usbut on the same token, ignoring things in the distance
doesn't make them go away and a lot of times those things get closer.
Take, for instance, the drug wars going in Mexico
and i guess this is my point. if there is nothing we can do, then
lets all move on
make us better and hope that others see the changes we can and have
started to make
and if they dont move forward, tough titty said the kitty.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Michael Dinowitz
wrote:
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> That's wh
That's what drives me to depression (really). We can't. We can't persuade
the UN to do anything about these other conflicts. We can't go in ourselves.
We can't really do anything. Basically, we're useless to help others.
If there was a massive public outcry about them then it would be one thing
b
>I think the real reason is it is contained. There is little chance of it
>spreading.
>
>We are most interested when we have skin in the game.
>
>See Germany, Russia, China, East Timor. This is neither new nor shocking.
>
>If we all _did_ actually care about all of these horrible issues, we would
but how can we REALISTICALLY go do more shit when we are effed up to
the hilt here?
how can we afford this?
how also can we afford more anti-us stuff when we go muck around in
those countries?
we get slandered, we get irritated locals who think we are taking
over, etc etc etc...
On Tue, Mar 3,
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> Which, if any, of that are mainstream media attacks on Israel, as
> opposed to reporting on other organizations such as AI making the
> accusations? Reporting an accusation is not the same as making an
> accusation. Do you feel the reporting o
How many jihad supporters from Somalia have come to this country? How many
who reject American laws and way of life and want to change us into a
religious theocracy? We can't just ignore whats happening 'over there' when
it affects us 'over here'.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Rastafari wrote:
what are WE going to do that they havent already tried?
*WAIT*
without the guise of "USA WANTS TO TAKE OVER EVERY COUNTRY"
being thrown on us??
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> Hate to be the onebut isn't this the exact outlook that led to
> Hitler's rise to power in Germa
Hate to be the onebut isn't this the exact outlook that led to
Hitler's rise to power in Germany?
"That's not our problem"
"Oh let them commit genocide, it's not our people".
???
It's one world, and therefore it is your problem, even you aren't
worldly enough to see how it affects you.
2009/
Yep, living for the winter in a little town just east of there called Ridge
Manor. Right where 50 and 301 touch. On a golf course.
Which makes me happy.
Especially when I read about nor'easters and a foot of heavy snow in Boston.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> Brooksville
Brooksville, Florida? Boy is that a flash from my past.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote:
> And not as worried about old ladies in Los Angeles as in Tampa, and not as
> worried about Tampa as Brooksville, and not as worried about Brooksville as
> my housing development, and
no.
im talking about the trouble areas that have been trouble areas
for millenia, ie. the middle east.
and if the old lady doesnt figure out where she can/cannot
walk safely in america, well maybe.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
wrote:
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> So, if you saw an old lady gettin
That's a fine attitude if those involved are warriors on both sides,
but a huge number of innocents are dying in these wars. I'm a firm
believer in letting nations work out their own political problems
without outside interference, but genocide and atrocities need to be
stopped. However, I see t
No, but I am not worried about old ladies in Paris. Or Mogadishu. Except in
a general "that's too bad" sense.
And not as worried about old ladies in Los Angeles as in Tampa, and not as
worried about Tampa as Brooksville, and not as worried about Brooksville as
my housing development, and not as w
So, if you saw an old lady getting mugged on the street, would you
just walk on saying, "Well, if she can't learn to fight 'em off, screw
her"
On Mar 3, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Rastafari wrote:
>
> i guess im the only one who comes from the "let them sort it out and
> if they kill each other dead
i guess im the only one who comes from the "let them sort it out and
if they kill each other dead
then so be it" crowd?
also, i belong to the "there are some people who just cannot live with
civility and there is no point
in doing anything to try to sway them" crowd as well.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009
I think the real reason is it is contained. There is little chance of it
spreading.
We are most interested when we have skin in the game.
See Germany, Russia, China, East Timor. This is neither new nor shocking.
If we all _did_ actually care about all of these horrible issues, we would
all be h
I have another take on this too. Remember all those Save the Children
commercials over the years. I think we've seen so many of those that
we have become jaded about the suffering of third world countries. So
the news coverage of the wars and famines just bounce off and we put
it in the annoyin
In all seriousness I have to agree with Zaphod and Maureen. I think if
the Congan demographic were different there would be more western media
coverage.
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On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> "Michael Grant is a troll." 74,700
> http://www.google.com/search?q=Michael+Grant+is+a+troll
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
>
> >
> > Also note these interesting results!
> >
> > "Michael Grant is bette
Which, if any, of that are mainstream media attacks on Israel, as
opposed to reporting on other organizations such as AI making the
accusations? Reporting an accusation is not the same as making an
accusation. Do you feel the reporting on the AI story is biased? if
so, could you provide a link t
"Michael Grant is a troll." 74,700
http://www.google.com/search?q=Michael+Grant+is+a+troll
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Michael Grant wrote:
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> Also note these interesting results!
>
> "Michael Grant is better than Gruss in every way" : 60,600
>
> http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Michae
Well if we are going to use the number of results on Google to dictate
whether something is true or not:
"Michael Dinowitz is right about Israel and the media" : 357 results.
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=Michael+Dinowitz+is+right+about+Israel+and+the+media&meta
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"Michael Dinowitz is wron
2,355 news item groups on my search. I get 63 alone on the Spanish court
trying to get Israelis on war crime charges.
http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=%22war+crimes%22+israel
http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=%22war+crimes%22+israel+spain
You know, I forgot how much m
Interestingly enough, Rwanda is about 75% christian with only 1% muslim.
I wonder if that figures into the coverage.
On Mar 3, 2009, at 12:54 AM, Robert Munn wrote:
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> The media covers what they think people will watch. Mass-murder in
> Africa is
> not really at the top of the list. The Rwa
A search of Google News for the words "Israel" and "War Crimes"
returns 163 results, most of them either from the Jerusalem Times
accusing the media of accusing Israel, or from the breaking story
about Amnesty International accusing both Israel and Hamas of war
crimes.
What is notably missing are
I hear about the crazy horrible stuff going down in the Congo on NPR
pretty regularly.
Crazy because it's been a literal hell for so long.
PBS ain't mainstream.
--
And History will smile to think that this is the species for which
Socrates and Jesus Christ died.
Julien Benda
On Tue, Mar 3, 20
With the reaction I see from the world, I'd expect it to be the other way
around. From the UN to Europe to the State Department to the media, there is
not that many people showing Jews as being important, chosen, or even worth
defending. Every time a Palestinian is killed, the Media declared it a
It's not a pretty answer. Basically the DRC conflict doesn't get
mainstream media coverage because the victims are black Africans, and
for the most part, people in US and Europe just don't care about what
goes on in that part of the world. Israel gets more coverage because
it's Israel, whose supp
The media covers what they think people will watch. Mass-murder in Africa is
not really at the top of the list. The Rwandan conflict received coverage
simply for the shocking brutality and quickness of it, otherwise we might
never have even heard of it. The rest of the world has, in some sense,
wr
I just ran over this blog and let me warn you before hand, it mentions
Israel. The goal of the blog is to highlight the number of massive conflicts
going on in the world that are basically being ignored. The post that I saw
used a simple, visual size comparison to show the differences in deaths
be
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