Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-27 Thread Robyn
>effort. I've not researched them thoroughly but the American Human >Association has always struck me as being very good > > I belong to the American Human Association. Love this group :-) >In general I prefer to give to local charities whenever possible simply >because they tend to be easy t

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Jon Austin
LOL, well I would have been your friend at school. I was (and still am) a big Garfield fan... On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:49:47 -0500, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I thought your cats favourite food was lasagna ;) > > Ooooh - that's a quick way to make my shit-list. ;^) > > (Sorry... ba

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Jon Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:38 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > I thought your cats favourite food was lasagna ;) Ooooh - that's a quick way to make

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Jon Austin
I thought your cats favourite food was lasagna ;) On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:54:51 -0500, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > She also won't touch canned cat food (her dish is full of dry) - she gets > enough sliced turkey and tuna from our sandwich making to offset that, but > she just won't touc

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Dana
u besides the Humane Society? On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:03:57 -0500, Erika L. Walker-Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you clarify this before I go on a hunt? > > Do you mean "is there an animal rights org that doesn't believe in > extremism or hateful attacks"? > > I might have a fe

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Adam Haskell
I'd have to do some hunting but if I recall correctly shortly after 9/11 when the gov't was find/shutting down terrorist funding PETA was brought up and made the list if I recall. If it was not on the list I remeber people talking about them... Adam H

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Robyn F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:48 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > Hi Jim, > > >Please don't construe this as a personal attack of any kind. >

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Robyn F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:07 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > > Moreover PETA has more than once been implicated in break and enters > > where domes

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
LOL. Didn't even think about that ... :D Cheers, Erika -- >>| -Original Message- >>| From: Robyn F >>| >>| >Can you clarify this before I go on a hunt? >>| >>| Interesting choice of words here :-) ~

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Aha! I might just have a few you might consider :) I will do my research later tonight. Cheers, Erika -- >>| -Original Message- >>| From: Robyn F >>| >>| I'm curious if any of you have any >>| suggestions of orgs that you support or

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Robyn F
>Can you clarify this before I go on a hunt? Interesting choice of words here :-) ~| Stay Ahead of Hackers - Download ZoneAlarm Pro http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=65 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.co

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Robyn F
My intention with this statment was, based on what people are saying here, I may want to support a different organization. I'm curious if any of you have any suggestions of orgs that you support or that do not support extremism in the same manner as PETA that I could potentially transfer suppor

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
not sure about that one. The last time I saw a PETA protest like that, the women involved were pretty scarey - they were looking more canine than feline. larry On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:11:58 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the coolest part about PETA > > the chicks who dress up

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Can you clarify this before I go on a hunt? Do you mean "is there an animal rights org that doesn't believe in extremism or hateful attacks"? I might have a few in mind - but want to be sure before I speak ... Cheers, Erika -- >>| -Original M

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Robyn F
Here's an article that more legitimately describes the link between PETA and the ALF. http://www.huntingmag.com/peta_0519/ Another hunting website (I suppose if there's one group that wants to take PETA down, it's the hunters). But this mag article points to a $1500 dollar donation to the No

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Robyn F
>ALF animal liberation front. Oops, you're right. I always thought ELF and ALF were the same thing. My bad! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Robyn F
Hi Jim, >Please don't construe this as a personal attack of any kind. No worries! I know my own personal beliefs, and, as I said before, I'm not completely on board with everything that PETA does. I don't take critisism of PETA as critisism of me. Some of the things you all are mentioning

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
ALF animal liberation front. They break into labs and steal lab animals. larry On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:07:16 -0400, Robyn F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Moreover PETA has more than once been implicated in break and enters > > where domestic ferrets have been released into the wild (for > > ins

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Russel Madere
: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:08 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: this has to be a fake... > -Original Message- > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 12:12 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > the co

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Michael Dinowitz
You've got my vote. > > the coolest part about PETA > > > > the chicks who dress up as cats and put themselves in cages with > > nothing more than pasties and some body paint :) > > Well... yes. But can't we keep that and still get rid of PETA? ;^) > > Jim Davis > > > > > >

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 12:12 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > the coolest part about PETA > > the chicks who dress up as cats and put themselves i

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Robyn F
> Moreover PETA has more than once been implicated in break and enters > where domestic ferrets have been released into the wild (for > instance: > http://listserv.cuny.edu/Scripts/wa. > exe?A2=ind9705&L=FERRET-SEARCH&P=R16934&D=0&H=0&I=-3&O=T&T=0) This post mentions that the owner thought that t

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Tony Weeg
the coolest part about PETA the chicks who dress up as cats and put themselves in cages with nothing more than pasties and some body paint :) -- tony Tony Weeg macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ c

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Kevin Graeme
> Mine does the same thing - she always has water out... but she truly prefers > the toilet. > > I assume because it's fresher but who knows, maybe she just likes the > posture. ;^) According to a local pet behaviorist, animals are attracted to moving water because in nature moving water is fres

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread William Bowen
> She also won't touch canned cat food (her dish is full of dry) - she gets > enough sliced turkey and tuna from our sandwich making to offset that, but > she just won't touch any canned food. One of our cats drinks from our water fountain in the dining room. the other won't touch that, prefering

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Robyn, Consider ferrets. PETA considers them to be wild animals, completely ignoring the fact that ferrets have been domesticated for at least 2500 years. Their stated goal (I'll have to dig up the refs) is to release them back into the wild. (for somewhat more details on this see http://listser

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Robyn F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:04 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > >Maybe you should leave some water out in a dish for the cats. Then they > >wouldn&#x

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Robyn F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:49 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > You said: > >Domestication is the same thing as slavery (so their literature goes) and &

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Robyn F
>Maybe you should leave some water out in a dish for the cats. Then they >wouldn't be so thirsty. Just a thought. :) Their water is out for them always, but they don't drink it out of a dish. They prefer to drink out of a pint glass. I kid you not. I used to have a dish of water out, and

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Robyn F
>Actually the stance of PETA is that your dogs dependency on you is shameful. >In effect we've "manufactured" a subservient class of creature which cannot >live without us. > >We should then care for those poor, helpless creatures we have but >immediately stop the creation of all others: no more pe

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Lol, does my "big ol' go fuck yurself" come with free shipping too? Of course! ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://w

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread James Smith
Lol, does my "big ol' go fuck yurself" come with free shipping too? > Well Tony... > > Today we have are offering a ont-time exclusive "big ol' go > fuck yurself" > which comes in blue or red. For the runner up, we have a > lovely set of "piss off" which includes free shipping! > > Enjoy! > >

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > i assume the 'piss off' comes in yellow? We are all sold out of yellow. Seems a couple cf-community list members have purchased all of it :-) ~| Find out how CFTicket can in

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Charlie Griefer
he runner up, we have a lovely set of "piss > off" which includes free shipping! > > Enjoy! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:17 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Su

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:17 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > h lets see > > michael... what does this contestant get today? > > > tw > > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:31:36 -, James

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Tony Weeg
h lets see michael... what does this contestant get today? tw On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:31:36 -, James Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 1) It is fake and has been proved so many, many times. > > > 2) This site has been arround for years, and over-reacting > > people with > >

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread James Smith
> > 1) It is fake and has been proved so many, many times. > > 2) This site has been arround for years, and over-reacting > people with > > no sence of humour have caused him to have to change his > hosting more > > times than most of us change underwear! > > 3) It's harmless and funny, if you

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 1) It is fake and has been proved so many, many times. > 2) This site has been arround for years, and over-reacting > people with no > sence of humour have caused him to have to change his hosting > more times > than most of us change underwear! >

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-26 Thread James Smith
1) It is fake and has been proved so many, many times. 2) This site has been arround for years, and over-reacting people with no sence of humour have caused him to have to change his hosting more times than most of us change underwear! 3) It's harmless and funny, if you don't like it, don't look at

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:39 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: this has to be a fake... > > So does PETA suggest we deliver all these domesticated pets to the wild? > > My

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Ray Champagne
Maybe you should leave some water out in a dish for the cats. Then they wouldn't be so thirsty. Just a thought. :) At 05:05 PM 1/25/2005, you wrote: >Come to think of it, one of my sister's cats probably would too. She >*loves* to get in things, even if they are transparent, because she >thin

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Adam Haskell
I know my one would climb right in...I woke up Saturday morning to a kitten body facing me meowing crazily with a Klenex box stuck on her head Adam H On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 17:00:01 -0500, Robyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think my cats would climb right in. They both drink their water out o

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Ray Champagne
To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > > > Todd Ashworth wrote: > > > > I think my cats would climb right in. They both drink their water out of > > a pint glass, which, as you might be able to picture, gets harder to > > drink f

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Todd Ashworth
gt; > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:00 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > > > Todd Ashworth wrote: > > > > I think my cats would climb right in. They both drink their water out of > > a pint glass, which, as you mig

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Robyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:00 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > Todd Ashworth wrote: > > I think my cats would climb right in. They both drink their water o

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Todd Ashworth
Come to think of it, one of my sister's cats probably would too. She *loves* to get in things, even if they are transparent, because she thinks she is hiding from you even though you can make eye contact with her. Then if you walk by her, she will jump out and attack. She ambushes her sister in

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Robyn
Todd Ashworth wrote: >I tried this once. Let me tell you, it is a lot harder to get the cat >into the jar than they suggest on that site .. especially if you don't >give the cat something to make it relax. Even then, it's still rough >going. For some reason, the cat is just not at all intereste

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Todd Ashworth
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Robyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 2:41 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > > > Sick, yes, but since I know it's not r

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Marlon Moyer
> -Original Message- > From: Robyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 2:41 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: this has to be a fake... > > Sick, yes, but since I know it's not real, I find it funny. > > Disclaimer: > I have

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > i would. but man, after looking @ that for a couple seconds > i was MTangry Just when I thought the label was gone Weed head brings it back up :-) ~| Discover CFTicket

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Robyn
Sick, yes, but since I know it's not real, I find it funny. Disclaimer: I have two lovely cats that spend none of their time in glass jars with air tubes. One thing you should try if you have cats: the website plays a sound of a cat meowing when you first go there. It must be a real recording

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Tony Weeg
wrote: > Simmah down nah! > > http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/bonsai.asp > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 1:49 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: this has to

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Erika L. Walker-Arnold
Yes. It's a fake. Remember, snopes.com is your friend :) Cheers, Erika -- >>| -Original Message- >>| From: Tony Weeg >>| >>| http://www.bonsaikitten.com/ ~| Discover CFT

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Marlon Moyer
Simmah down nah! http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/bonsai.asp > -Original Message- > From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 1:49 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: this has to be a fake... > > http://www.bonsaikitten.com/ &g

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Dana
it's a fake tho I don't have the proof of it to hand. It came up on another list a while back. On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 14:49:12 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.bonsaikitten.com/ > > please tell me you can find somewhere where this is fake? > > if not, i say we put this moth

RE: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.bonsaikitten.com/ > > please tell me you can find somewhere where this is fake? > > if not, i say we put this motherfuc*er in a fuc*king bottle himself! > > im more than disgusted, and im utterly appalled by this... > > AND NOTHING TO T

Re: this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> http://www.bonsaikitten.com/ > > please tell me you can find somewhere where this is fake? It's fake - has been proven fake on national TV - has had state inquiries and was proven to be a joke several times. But if it makes you feel better: http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/bonsai.asp H

this has to be a fake...

2005-01-25 Thread Tony Weeg
http://www.bonsaikitten.com/ please tell me you can find somewhere where this is fake? if not, i say we put this motherfuc*er in a fuc*king bottle himself! im more than disgusted, and im utterly appalled by this... AND NOTHING TO THIS DATE IN MY LIFE HAS APPALLED ME! -- tony Tony Weeg macr