RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I've got what's needed to convince a Java client to move to CF and can sell a project but I fall down on billing, project cost specs and the like. On a side sales note, once I get my digital recorder in, I'll have a few "selling ColdFusion in a Java world" scripts recorded for transcription. Shou

RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Glad to hear. I like knowing that CF is getting out there. > I seriously considered moving out to DC, I figure some day I will > probably end up out there. I am finding more and more places in Ohio > that use CF though. > > Adam H > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:14:02 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > > <[EM

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Adam Haskell
I seriously considered moving out to DC, I figure some day I will probably end up out there. I am finding more and more places in Ohio that use CF though. Adam H > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:14:02 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When things were really bad in NY I seriously

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Aaron Rouse
When I was looking for CF work just this past April or so, I got to the point of looking for out of town jobs. I would have been coming home maybe two weekends out of the month had I taken any of the ones I was looking at. I got lucky in finding a new contract here in town and even more so within

RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
When things were really bad in NY I seriously thought about doing weeks in DC and home on the weekends. Judith really didn't like the idea. > Darn, guess I need to pack up my truck and move to DC then to avoid > this frustration I now have ... > > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:50:45 +, Simon Hor

RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Jeffry Houser
I think there is a lot of potential there, specially w/ your knowledge-base as the "lead". I'm okay at business, but not at sales. To make something like that successful, you need a good sales folk. At 11:49 AM 1/21/2005, you wrote: >I suck at business. If you know someone with the business

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Aaron Rouse
Darn, guess I need to pack up my truck and move to DC then to avoid this frustration I now have ... On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:50:45 +, Simon Horwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Johnny - just thought I'd give you a friendly warning/piece of advice: > try not to compare DC with anywhere else in t

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Simon Horwith
Johnny - just thought I'd give you a friendly warning/piece of advice: try not to compare DC with anywhere else in the world when it comes to the CF job market. It only frustrates people that don't live here. Yes - the market in DC is unreal... but that's unique to DC. ~Simon Simon Horwith C

RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I suck at business. If you know someone with the business experience to do this, I'd be happy to partner with them and make it happen. I've got everything needed short of that. > Start your own firm. If you can place 10 people for $50 an hour, pay > them $40 an hour, then you're making $100 an

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Simon Horwith
better yet, why not give it away at your next NYCFUG? I don't recall ever seeing nostalgia given away at a CFUG, but why not? ~Simon Simon Horwith CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instruc

RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Nah, I've got the Team Allaire watch for ebay. :) > sounds like a candidate for eBay, Mike ;) > > ~Simon > > Simon Horwith > CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com > Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal > Member of Team Macromedia > Macromedia Certified Master Instructor > Blog - http

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Johnny Le
Where do you guys live? The job market is booming in DC. It is very easy to find a CF job here. Not only that, many CF developers make DotNet salary. I am not sure if you should worry about cheap foreign labor. The cheap labor is definitely attractive. I actually hired them on a bunch of pr

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Simon Horwith
sounds like a candidate for eBay, Mike ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Michael Dinowitz wrote: >I still have the flopp

RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Jeffry Houser
At 11:27 AM 1/21/2005, you wrote: >But back to the thread, I think I'm going to start mentoring programmers >from my community in CF and send them to some of these jobs. They have well >over 10 years software experience so picking up CF should be easy. Add in my >knowledge of it and they'll have th

RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I still have the floppies (3) and the one from forums (1). Damn, I have to clean up. :) > mine is stapled... CF 1 on a floppy. Yes, the good old days indeed. I > miss picking up the phone and talking with Jeremy from his garage ;) > > ~Simon ~~

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Aaron Rouse
Oh, the floppy, wonder if that is the same file folder. Better yet, wonder if it still works. On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:33:15 +, Simon Horwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mine is stapled... CF 1 on a floppy. Yes, the good old days indeed. I > miss picking up the phone and talking with Jeremy

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Simon Horwith
mine is stapled... CF 1 on a floppy. Yes, the good old days indeed. I miss picking up the phone and talking with Jeremy from his garage ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified

RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Now I'm going to have to check when I get home. I know there's a spiral bound docs from some early version. But back to the thread, I think I'm going to start mentoring programmers from my community in CF and send them to some of these jobs. They have well over 10 years software experience so pic

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Aaron Rouse
Mine is not spiral bound if I remember right it is just stapled. I feel cheated, perhaps I should call up MACR and complain :) On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:18:00 -0500, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yeh, white paper spiral bound with a clear plastic cover. The good old days > when the

RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Yeh, white paper spiral bound with a clear plastic cover. The good old days when the docs were like 25 pages. Oh, I feel old now as well. The Blackstone docs are a total of 100 times that now. How we've grown. > Must have been 10 years for us, because when we "bought" it we > actually got a beta a

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Aaron Rouse
Must have been 10 years for us, because when we "bought" it we actually got a beta and later on got the real thing. I still have the "manual" to I think it is 1.0 or 1.5 sitting on my desk at home. I think I redefine pack rat, I might have finally thrown away some CF3 references though. Ok, I fe

RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Official release was July of 95 with a beta before that. That's officially 9.5 years and a max of 10 or 10.5 for those on the beta. I didn't get in until the end of the beta so it's not a full 10 years for me yet. But yeh, it's been a long time. > > Amazing how time flies, I had to sit here and t

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Aaron Rouse
Amazing how time flies, I had to sit here and think for a second as to when CF came out. We were one of Allaire's first customers for the product, for some reason I was thinking it had only been 7-8 years ago, but alas math is not my strong point(well this morning at least) because been at least 9

RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-21 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I've been seeing a sharp increase in NY area jobs which is great. Problem is, because most of the CF in the area has been 'hidden' for the last 4 years most of the programmers are either taken or just not present. I'm working on getting some programmers from my area and giving them some of my 10 ye

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-20 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
> The position I just mentioned does not require long hours > - typically, our Developers work about 40 hours per week - > we believe in a life outside of work. > So, please do contact me for additional information if you > are an advanced CF Developer! 732-544-8454; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Charlo

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-20 Thread Charlotte Dodge
The position I just mentioned does not require long hours - typically, our Developers work about 40 hours per week - we believe in a life outside of work. So, please do contact me for additional information if you are an advanced CF Developer! 732-544-8454; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charlotte Griffin

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-20 Thread Charlotte Dodge
Well - with all the CF Developers out there that are looking for work; I haven't been able to find too many in NJ. We have been looking for a CF Developer to join our company on a full-time permanent basis here in Eatontown, NJ. Haven't had much luck. If you or anyone you know that is an adva

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-20 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
Yeah, I've been there. I got laid from a 30 person (6 developer) company off at the end of August; I was a Sr. CF Programmer, lead UI guy, backup to the sysadmin and on alternating thursdays I played Banjo in the band. Turns out they were sold but hadn't made the news public, they were trying to

Re: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-20 Thread Jeffry Houser
At 06:03 PM 1/20/2005, you wrote: >I've recently been "canned" in a merger due to reasons pertaining to not >getting up to speed with DotNet quick enough (company will no longer be >using Cold Fusion, which I am at >"Advanced level" of development), and stated they can find expert level >DotNet dev

RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-20 Thread Connie DeCinko
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RE: Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-20 Thread Robert Libertone
- Job Loss ... Job Gain I've recently been "canned" in a merger due to reasons pertaining to not getting up to speed with DotNet quick enough (company will no longer be using Cold Fusion, which I am at "Advanced level" of development), and stated they can f

Depressed - Job Loss ... Job Gain

2005-01-20 Thread Chuck Mason
I've recently been "canned" in a merger due to reasons pertaining to not getting up to speed with DotNet quick enough (company will no longer be using Cold Fusion, which I am at "Advanced level" of development), and stated they can find expert level DotNet developers overseas (where majority of