Re: CF/*nix/Access

2006-07-29 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
It is just an option in the installer. You cannot remove it either - there will alway be a need for ODBC, as Dave noted, just because you do not use it doesn't majd it obsolete. It is also very difficult to remove features in apps as you end up breaking code/apps which rely on them. I think even

Re: Converting valid XHTML to Plain Text...

2006-07-29 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
If they are so cool then post them. When you mean control the mouse do you mean the servers, not client. This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It

Re: Converting valid XHTML to Plain Text...

2006-07-29 Thread Denny Valliant
Well, it was swing, not swt, so it looks like you tried it. I'll paste the code just in case, but the rendered text is pretty crappy. Maybe a 3 step process would work (sometimes it's not like a game of telephone, but most time it is, so, eh...) i.e. from html to pdf to text or some such thing.

Re: Converting valid XHTML to Plain Text...

2006-07-29 Thread Denny Valliant
import javax.swing.text.html.parser.*; import javax.swing.text.html.*; import java.io.*; public class TextFromHtml extends HTMLEditorKit.ParserCallback{ public void handleText(char[] data, int pos){ System.out.println(new String(data)); // redirect the output to a file, or write other

Re: CF 8 feature survey

2006-07-29 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote: Thanks Jochen; I am not familiar with shared hosting and to be honest I forgot about spooling! The only involvement I have with shared hosting is that I run one :) Anything in the undeliverable folder gets parsed and if the programmer has bothered to code a

Re: CF 8 feature survey

2006-07-29 Thread Mike Kear
OK then . I give up. There is nothing about any aspect of ColdFusion that could possibly be improved. Waste of time suggesting anything. The fact that I spend a significant amount of my time helping my clients work through CFMAIL problems is probably only fantasy on my part. What a bunch of

Re: CF 8 feature survey

2006-07-29 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
That is not what we are saying! The fact here is that you say there is no way to tell if an email fails - and we know there is - both at server level and code. What more do you need to tell that an email fails? it is all their for you. ColdFusion is 10 years old and this is probably that most

Re: C3 page drafts

2006-07-29 Thread Mingo Hagen
On the mac there was one issue with the graph, in safari and omniweb it shows above the text, while in camino, firefox and opera it showed on the right. James Holmes wrote: Bah, last time I ask for feedback on a Friday ;-) Seriously, when people have time next week, if they can have a look

Re: CF 8 feature survey

2006-07-29 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Mike Kear wrote: OK then . I give up. There is nothing about any aspect of ColdFusion that could possibly be improved. Waste of time suggesting anything. The fact that I spend a significant amount of my time helping my clients work through CFMAIL problems is probably only fantasy on my

Re: C3 page drafts

2006-07-29 Thread James Holmes
Thanks - that must be the right float not right-floating in safari and omniweb. I'll check into it (unless of course you want to fix it and post the code ;-) On 7/29/06, Mingo Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the mac there was one issue with the graph, in safari and omniweb it shows above the

Re: CF 8 feature survey

2006-07-29 Thread Mike Kear
Yep. SIlly me. I've been coding ColdFusion for only 9 years. I have more than 40 clients building web sites on my system. I build sites for other clients on their systems too. In all, over the last 9 years I've worked on self-hosted systems and shared hosting systems. In fact I think i've

Re: CF 8 feature survey

2006-07-29 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Jeez no, I want real-time debugging back pronto! All for it. You will remember what it was like for Cold Fusion. I don't see it as a threat what you are asking far from it they just haven't seen it as a necessary edition. If you get it in their then cool, as Ray would say go/wish! Maybe if they

Re: C3 page drafts

2006-07-29 Thread Mingo Hagen
I feel almost embarrassed to say it on-list, but it's a double quote at the end of the margin line for the rightbox class: ..rightbox{ display: inline; float: right; margin: 5px 5px 5px 5px; } James Holmes wrote: Thanks - that must be the right float not right-floating in safari and

RE: CF 8 feature survey

2006-07-29 Thread Rick Faircloth
From somewhat of an outsider's perspective on this discussion... Usually the problems for which workarounds have to be developed become features eventually. Yes, it's true there are workarounds for the email issue, but if it's a significant issue, as Mike is saying, then CF should be enhanced to

Re: CF 8 feature survey

2006-07-29 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Indeed, and it makes you wonder why that, such a significant problem has not been addressed in earlier editions. Must be a reason? This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in

Google Code Project Hosting

2006-07-29 Thread Rick Root
y'all seen this? http://code.google.com/hosting/ Looks like a nice place to do project hosting, an alternative to sourceforge, cfopen, etc. They offer subversion hosting as part of the package too. Sweet. Rick ~|

Re: CF/*nix/Access

2006-07-29 Thread Dan Plesse
I am hoping to make CF or at least CF 8 a better product too. So the less time I spend here working on missing periods and removing or keeping an and in a sentence the more .NET wins. You are only hurting yourselves. My suggestion is head over to the .NET boards and start pointing out things

Re: CF 8 feature survey

2006-07-29 Thread Josh Nathanson
Regards cfmail, I would imagine the lack of error checking has something to do with the balance between speed and usability. The more error checking it has to do, the more it slows down. If there was robust error checking in the context of a cfmail, people might be complaining that cfmail was

Re: CF 8 feature survey

2006-07-29 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
It is more the lack of error reporting, as it does error log (in terms of SMTP)? Who knows, I will log a wish for anyway to keep the faith...! This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business,

Re: Google Code Project Hosting

2006-07-29 Thread Denny Valliant
On 7/29/06, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: y'all seen this? http://code.google.com/hosting/ Nope! I hadn't. That's pretty cool. And they* said opensource wouldn't work... :-) *some heads, I'm sure, at some point Isn't is awesome how many options there are now? Sheesh. Almost too much!

Trying to send a message...but it doesn't show up....?

2006-07-29 Thread Rick Faircloth
I've sent other messages to CF-Talk, but one particular one I've been trying to send all morning is not showing up. The only difference is that it contains CF code and JavaScript.do messages like that get filtered out? Rick

Re: Google Code Project Hosting

2006-07-29 Thread Mingo Hagen
You bet'cha got my first project in it too... not sure if it's ready for prime time though... so i'm not tellin y'all, but you could of course find it with some imagination ;) I basically wanted to test the subversion repository... and it (of course) works like a charm Mingo. Rick Root

Re: Trying to send a message...but it doesn''t show up....?

2006-07-29 Thread Will Tomlinson
Been havin the same problem here. Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year.

Re: Google Code Project Hosting

2006-07-29 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Rick Root wrote: y'all seen this? http://code.google.com/hosting/ Looks like a nice place to do project hosting, an alternative to sourceforge, cfopen, etc. They offer subversion hosting as part of the package too. Sweet. I wouldn't use it yet. It has a lot of potential with the

Re: Trying to send a message...but it doesn''t show up....?

2006-07-29 Thread Mingo Hagen
a while back I had the same problem, just gave up on it though... Will Tomlinson wrote: Been havin the same problem here. Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date

Re: C3 page drafts

2006-07-29 Thread James Holmes
How the heck did that get in there? It's fixed - can you check again? Thanks. On 7/30/06, Mingo Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel almost embarrassed to say it on-list, but it's a double quote at the end of the margin line for the rightbox class: ..rightbox{ display: inline; float:

Re: CF 8 feature survey

2006-07-29 Thread Denny Valliant
Ditto, Rick! And workarounds are usually the easiest features to implement! You KNOW what you want, or expect, or whatnot. No need for votes, etc. CFMAIL has had issues for ages, it constantly killed my server, with CF 5 I think. It's gotten better, but I can feel Mike's frustration, there is a

RE: CF/*nix/Access

2006-07-29 Thread Dave Watts
I agree and Adobe kind of did remove the service from MX 7 and MX 8. It was an early request in a past beta and it was done early on but I am not sure it stayed that way. So now it could be just an option during the installation process. That would be fine. It hasn't been a big deal for

Re: Trying to send a message...but it doesn''t show up....?

2006-07-29 Thread Denny Valliant
Well, it's not blocking the CF code, as I just sent some and it popped up real quick. It could be blocking the javascript, I guess, as I don't think I've tried sending JS stuff lately. I'd opt for replacement with invalidtag or similar myself, I reckon. Heck, I just saw a nifty (depending on

Re: C3 page drafts

2006-07-29 Thread Denny Valliant
You know, I was looking for a bright spot and forgot this thread was running. Now this is good stuff! Thanks James and everyone else involved!! -ps looks dandy in safari for me (floating right, heh) -pps: javascript test: script language=javascriptalert('Yay communication!');/script On

Re: Google Code Project Hosting

2006-07-29 Thread Paul Hastings
Jochem van Dieten wrote: I wouldn't use it yet. It has a lot of potential with the integration with a Google account, but for now it lacks features compared to even a stock GForge install. it's not that bad (though trac seems a lot smoother) and there's something to be said for simplicity.

Re: CF 8 feature survey

2006-07-29 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
LOL good one - I am not poo poo-ing Mike's request! Far from it I respect anyones drive to improve CD but... whether you buy it or not, once ColdFusion has written the email to disk / memory it is out of your calling threads hands. There is only a finite number or ways you could report that a