Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

> you mean the days when CGI people were swearing that >coldfusion >weren't going anywhere, Flash was just a gleam in Future Splash's pants, >And I.E. was Leno and Netscape was Conan? Lol Yep ... Back in the good old days when there was no competing technology ... ..er hem.. ~~~

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

>Well, we're talking about programming languages and most of them >succeed because of community momentum, not because of "ACME Inc." >marketing them... >-- >Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN A point we agree upon. And the reason why I think postings like (Mike Kears) are dangerous because they

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

Please move this discussion off list thx Sent from my mobile device On Jan 22, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Bryn Parrott wrote: > >> Scott Stewart wrote: >> >>> I have *never* seen an effective deployment of Sharepoint. >> >> You know, I have heard this many times, but it seems >> implausible. Wh

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

> Scott Stewart wrote: > >> I have *never* seen an effective deployment of Sharepoint. > > You know, I have heard this many times, but it seems >implausible. Why would CxOs continue to buy a product that >takes so much work by so many expensive consultants to get >it running? Because it

Re: Why .Net is on its last legs

> There is plenty of "sloppy code" in the .Net-i-verse...like you said, > it's ultimately about the developer, not the platform. I'm not so sure about that. I've dabbled with .Net on and off over the last couple of years (every time I get depressed about job prospects in .CF ...) and each tim

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

Sean, as much as we disagree about the unique-ness situation of Pacific, you're absolutely right that we have an awesome set of conferences covering CF (and other topics). I can't speak for the other people from the region on this mailing list, but all the ones below you've mentioned are on my "a

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

ColdFusion as a platform is most certainly not on its last legs. As always, this statement comes with a big "it depends". It's a matter of fact that the attention ColdFusion gets in the Pacific market (that also includes New Zealand) from the local Adobe office equals to nil. Adobe Australia is a

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs - Move to CF-Community??

> I realize this is OT, but if you're using Gmail/Google > Apps, you can > "mute" a thread: > http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=47787 Thanks for the tip Dave. I did not know that one :) ~| Want t

RE: cfsavecontent and whitespace

Awesome - I just so happen to need that as well! Thanks! -Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:gerald.gu...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 5:04 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: cfsavecontent and whitespace I have this function to strip out carriage returns and tabs... the

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs - Move to CF-Community??

> Please, can this thread end, or at least move to CF-Community or > something? I realize this is OT, but if you're using Gmail/Google Apps, you can "mute" a thread: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=47787 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ http://

Re: cfsavecontent and whitespace

I have this function to strip out carriage returns and tabs... the last chr(13) and chr(10) are probably over kill HTH G! On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Josh Nathanson wrote: > > The white space seems to be caused by carriage returns, so this ha

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs - Move to CF-Community??

Michael / Mark / Patrick Thank you! ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message

Re: formatting email

either use HTML format and add line breaks or it should accept something like #chr(10)# ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://w

Re: cfsavecontent and whitespace

Yes, output is turned off on both the CFC and the individual method. I ended up using a method like this: http://www.cflib.org/index.cfm?event=page.udfbyid&udfid=812 Hope it doesn't affect performance too much. -Jake On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Justin Scott wrote: > > > I'm just wonderin

RE: cfsavecontent and whitespace

The white space seems to be caused by carriage returns, so this has helped me: #replace(myvar,"\r\n","","all")# -- Josh -Original Message- From: Jake Churchill [mailto:reyna...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 1:08 PM To: cf-talk Subject: cfsavecontent and whitespace I'

RE: cfsavecontent and whitespace

> I'm just wondering if anyone has come up with a solution > for the extreme whitespace added by cfsavecontent. Is output="no" set on the CFC method? -Justin ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want

cfsavecontent and whitespace

I'm just wondering if anyone has come up with a solution for the extreme whitespace added by cfsavecontent. Scenario: I have a CFC which builds pieces of content for an email. The content is pieced together via a complex series of loops, and other CFC calls. I've tried every combination of cfs

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

Judah: It's likely that you misunderstood. I started a CFUG in the East Bay, California area less than a year ago. I've not had Adobe attempt to influence any sort of influence over the topics we cover, nor did they attempt to mandate that the group be referred to as anything other than a CFUG.

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

> I used to be a CFUG manager, so I understand. But it was my impression > that all of the CFUGs were getting converted to RIA groups. Perhaps I > misunderstood and I just need to get off my lazy ass and make a group > again :) A lot of them have switched to RIA topics, or just become more genera

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs - Move to CF-Community??

>Please, can this thread end, or at least move to CF-Community or >something? > >Thanks > Mark Man, I couldn't agree more Look, this should be for code exchanges, etc. We all live by the CF sword and die by the CF sword. If you're that worried about it, learn the other languages

formatting email

Hi folks I have a form with the following cf email script The Clergy Leadership Resource Page Form #firstname# #lastname# has just accessed the certificate page '#firstname# '#lastname# '#emailaddress# 'certificate '#title# '#program# '#programvalue# I want the output on individual lines,

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs - Move to CF-Community??

Mark, I've left the thread here so it could be disputed but after 2 days it is time to take it to the OT list. Anyone who wants to continue on the bi-monthly CF is dead thread, please go to the CF-OT list. Thanks -- Michael On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Gaulin, Mark wrote: > > Please, c

RE: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs - Move to CF-Community??

Please, can this thread end, or at least move to CF-Community or something? Thanks Mark ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: ht

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

I used to be a CFUG manager, so I understand. But it was my impression that all of the CFUGs were getting converted to RIA groups. Perhaps I misunderstood and I just need to get off my lazy ass and make a group again :) Cheers, Judah On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Dave Watts wrote: > >> Well

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

> Well, yes and no. Adobe did have a decent user group system but then > they consolidated them and it all changed. We had a Portland CF > Usergroup but then it got changed by Adobe to a PDX RIA group and most > all of the content and discussion is around Flash and Flex. Having a > Flash and Flex

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Dave Watts wrote: > >> And as I ALSO said - in not so many words - Who is to say that "community >> momentum" wasn't/isn't part of the marketing? The smaller your >> product/service - the more you rely on "free" marketing techniques. > > Adobe does a pretty good

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

> And as I ALSO said - in not so many words - Who is to say that "community > momentum" wasn't/isn't part of the marketing? The smaller your > product/service - the more you rely on "free" marketing techniques. Adobe does a pretty good job with supporting community-driven marketing. I don't know

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

Concerning " our stuff is free and ColdFusion isn't", it is difficult to program in .NET without Visual Studio Professional and that cost $800. Microsoft will find a way to cost those developers money. >I'm considering moving back to Northern Virginia if the right opportunity >presents itself.

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

>Too bad you couldn't convince them to migrate to ColdFusion 9 which has >built in Sharepoint integration out of the box. > > >abdy > >I'm considering moving back to Northern Virginia if the right opportunity >presents itself. CF in the Raleigh/Durham area is almost non existent (job >wise) I was

RE: AJAX Question

> Better to stay consistent and use jQuery for everything rather than drop into > a different implementation and syntax. >From the sound of his question I'd bet he's not using any Ajax implementation and syntax right now. > "I don't know of anyone actually using CF8's built in implementation"

RE: What is the best way to design a grid system?

Regarding the editable table cells, there is a nifty jQuery plugin called jEditable that can help you accomplish that. -- Josh -Original Message- From: Kamru Miah [mailto:k.m...@csl.gov.uk] Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:30 AM To: cf-talk Subject: What is the best way to design a grid

RE: AJAX Question

It's mostly because I don't know of anyone actually using CF8's built in implementation. It's highly unlikely that anyone is going to be building a single AJAX call in a vacuum. Most developers are going to be using jQuery for other aspects of the site's development. Better to stay consistent and

RE: AJAX Question

I appreciate everyone falling over themselves to give the obligatory "Use jQuery" response :), but I'm kind of surprised no one mentioned the super simple method of doing this that is built right in to CF8 and 9. Click on this link (CF8 docs): http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/ajaxu

Requesttimeout equivalent?

We have a CF system that harvests data from an ASPX based site, which is frequently timing out. As I have no access to the ASPX side, does anyone know if there is an equivalent to the ol' requesttimeout URL parameter? Thanks, -- Jon This message and any attached documents are only for the use

Re: What is the best way to design a grid system?

I would build it with nested tables and a simple input object that swaps the value with an input on click or double click and has a button input that saves/updates via ajax. If you needed to add a fiscal year on the fly, build an object that creates the new rows and columns in DOM. If this is a

RE: Why .Net is on its last legs

> Developpers "re-use" code so much nowadays that it takes 4 gig RAM to > do about the same thing we did before in Clipper with 256k ;-)) ROTFL! Made the whole thread worthwhile. This message and any attached documents are only for the use of the intended recipient(s), are confidential and m

RE: CF5 download

Good to hear. Congratulations... I think. ~Brad Original Message Subject: Re: CF5 download From: Tom Chiverton Date: Fri, January 22, 2010 3:24 am To: cf-talk On Tuesday 12 Jan 2010, Tom Chiverton wrote: > On Monday 11 Jan 2010, b...@bradwood.com wrote: > > Tom, I've alwa

What is the best way to design a grid system?

What is the best way to design a grid system to display monthly income/costs of a project (on a flat-profile basis) running up to 6 financial years (FY)? The cell-entries should be editable (phasing) and saved in a database table as well as update the FY totals column. Each FY is likely to have

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Eric Nicholas Sweeney wrote: > So if you think Marketing by "Acme Inc." has nothing to do with it - that's > crazy talk. (I know you were just generalizing) But since we're really > talking about Adobe - that's super crazy talk. It's not like they released > CF9 a

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs in Australia

There is never a lack of "coldfusion" google alerts and here is a nice one... While this is just a fraction of the ColdFusion sites out there, it's still cool in my opinion... Today ColdfusionSites.com covers more than 2.000 ColdFusion websites. This means that

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs in Australia

> > While I think that the open-source CFML implementations are great and > > all, I think you can understand why Adobe might not present at an > > open-source conference, right? > > Adobe does a ton of good open source work, in particular around Flex. They > have a good story to tell, and based o

WDDX in CF9

Good Day, Just checking to see if anyone else has experienced any issues with converting WDDX in CF9. I have the following that converts a Query object to WDDX and then I insert it into the DB: I then ready it from the DB and convert it back using the following: looking at the results th

RE: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

As I said Xia - Everyone can point to one or two... Can you point to thousands? I am not dismissing the viral phenomena - I am just saying it's the exception. And as I ALSO said - in not so many words - Who is to say that "community momentum" wasn't/isn't part of the marketing? The smaller your p

Re: AJAX Question

Thanks all, I really appreciate all the input. Now to go away and start working. Matt. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://ww

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs in Australia

On Friday 22 Jan 2010, Dave Watts wrote: > While I think that the open-source CFML implementations are great and > all, I think you can understand why Adobe might not present at an > open-source conference, right? Adobe does a ton of good open source work, in particular around Flex. They have a

RE: AJAX Question

You're probably right. Your note about using firebug reminded me of the built in debugger with CF9, so I figured it would be worth letting Matthew know about it if he was using cfajaxproxy. Chris > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:sstwebwo...@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Friday

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs in Australia

>> Melbourne which had PHP topics, but I don't think CF would be an >> appropriate topic at an open-source conference, since, you know, it's >> closed-source. > > Nah...there's a open language spec (due any day now) and at least two open > source implementations of it, as well as Adobe's closed on

RE: AJAX Question

Chris, I'm not sure how well the debugger works with non cf ajax.. I've just stuck with firebug. -Original Message- From: Chris Dicamillo [mailto:ch...@warnercnr.colostate.edu] Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 10:38 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: AJAX Question Also, if you're using CF9's

Re: ColdFusion|JRun CPU and|or memory problem.

On 1/21/2010 8:37 PM, b...@bradwood.com wrote: > >> I've been use the Trigger Snapshot function from the ColdFusion Monitor >> and I have been getting threads, but I am not, in my limited experience >> reading threads, I can see anything. In fact every thread dump I have >> done I have not see

RE: AJAX Question

Also, if you're using CF9's AJAX implementation, putting ?cfdebug at the end of your URL will show the AJAX debugger (assuming that feature is enabled in the CF Admin). Chris > -Original Message- > From: Scott Stewart [mailto:sstwebwo...@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 8:

RE: AJAX Question

Matt here's a quick one using JQuery: First off, you need to load the JQuery libraries in the head of the page. $(document).ready(function() { $("#button name").live("click", function(){ $.ajax({ type:"post",

Re: AJAX Question

On Friday 22 Jan 2010, Matthew Allen wrote: > Can anyone please give me pointers or real life example of how to insert > simple form field values into a database using AJAX. /your/path/to/A.cfc?returnFormat=json&method='yourSaveMethodName'&arg1='foo'&arg2=23 -- Helping to evangelistically intro

RE: AJAX Question

One thing I forgot to mention. If you use the below method, then you'd reference the values on the ColdFusion page in the URL scope. URL.key1 URL.key2 Etc. If you need a POST then you'd just change the var references to the FORM scope, and change $.get to $.post andy -Original Message

RE: AJAX Question

Bear in mind that you do not insert values into a database with AJAX. AJAX is merely way to pass said values to the processing page of your choice without page refresh. So assuming you know how to do a database insert with ColdFusion, you'd just need to know how to pass the values from your clie

Re: AJAX Question

The way you do that depends on which Ajax library you are using. You insert data into the database the way you normally do using ColdFusion. The JavaScript that you use pulls data from the form fields, sends it to the server using any number of methods, then ColdFusion takes it from there and send

AJAX Question

Can anyone please give me pointers or real life example of how to insert simple form field values into a database using AJAX. Many thanks. Matt ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know

Re: Why .Net is on its last legs

> I wish I knew how to strike the perfect balance... Learn YAGNI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_ain%27t_gonna_need_it :-) On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Qing Xia wrote: > > > > > > > I can admit, I have some really sloppy code from my first years as a > coder. > > > > So did I--like you

Re: Why .Net is on its last legs

> > > I can admit, I have some really sloppy code from my first years as a coder. > > So did I--like you said, I imagine most did with their first applications. And those were the ones that mattered most. They don't care about > frameworks, OO, languages, wire frames, documentation or prefere

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs

Marketing key to success for everything? Well, I agree marketing helps in most situations and for most products--but it doesn't always have to be the case. Take a look at Wikipedia's success; there were no big bucks spent on advertising it. Take a look at that United Breaks Guitars song on

Re: Why i fear ColdFusion is on its last legs in Australia

On Thursday 21 Jan 2010, Dave Watts wrote: > Melbourne which had PHP topics, but I don't think CF would be an > appropriate topic at an open-source conference, since, you know, it's > closed-source. Nah...there's a open language spec (due any day now) and at least two open source implementations

Re: CF5 download

On Tuesday 12 Jan 2010, Tom Chiverton wrote: > On Monday 11 Jan 2010, b...@bradwood.com wrote: > > Tom, I've always loved your signature-- does it not count now that it is > > 2010? > > We've not won it this year yet :-) Now we have :-) -- Helping to interactively innovate exceptional granular