-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 September 2003 05:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: KILL THIS was Re: (Admin) List upgrades
5. Having mail with an HTML banner will allow us to attract advertisers to
support the lists rather than depending
: Can you add a Support House Of Fusion via PayPal link? I think
: you would be
: suprised at how many people would contribute. HoF lists are a
: valuable tool
: in my coding arsenal!
You mean like the Make a Donation link at the bottom of the HoF home page
that shunts you to Paypal? :-)
--BenD
Amazon.com has something like that too
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From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: KILL THIS was Re: (Admin) List upgrades - What about
PayPal?
: Can you add a Support House Of Fusion via
THIS was Re: (Admin) List upgrades - What about
PayPal?
-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 September 2003 05:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: KILL THIS was Re: (Admin) List upgrades
5. Having mail with an HTML banner will allow us to attract
I vote No for HTML email just because I don't ever want to receive it
:-)... but following on from Rachel's email...
Those that receive in Digest form would probably benefit from the option of
HTML email as it can get a bit messy with the all the messages digested
into one I get cf-talk
On Monday 15 Sep 2003 22:32 pm, Claude Schneegans wrote:
As you say quite judiciously, they have been there for ages.
It's about time we use something not so obsolete.
Oh, right, because new is always better.
:gives up and catches-up thread
--
Tom Chiverton (sorry 'bout sig.)
Advanced
On Monday 15 Sep 2003 18:12 pm, John Wilker wrote:
Plain text is like speaking in a monotone.
NO IT ISN'T !
There is no emphasis on
concepts, ideas, etc.. I can't stand trying to get something across when I
don't even have Bold to work with :)
Who needs *bold* anyway ?
:-)
--
Tom
Mosh Teitelbaum wrote:
There have been standard conventions for emphasizing text in
email/usenet for ages.
Claude Schneegans wrote:
As you say quite judiciously, they have been there for ages.
It's about time we use something not so obsolete.
I wouldn't call them obsolete. Old maybe, but
Mosh Teitelbaum wrote:
Plain text certainly does *NOT* have to be like speaking in a monotone.
^
Claude Schneegans wrote:
That funny: you used exactly 35 extra characters to do this,...
compared to only 7 in HTML.
Should we conclude that HTML would save on the
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
3. As an extension to the previous question, does anyone actually look at the
message footers?
Not me.
4. As an extension of the previous question, does anyone click on any of the ads
that are on HoF/FA? (such as the new MM ad)
Not me.
5. Would people like the
On Monday 15 Sep 2003 04:39 am, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
2. I'm going to add in a link on each post to send the user directly to the
post in the archive. Should this link be before the message (a header) or
after (a footer)?
Footer, out of the way.
Seems a pointless addition to me.
3. As an
(As an aside - I've never understood the war against HTML
email/NNTP posts. It seems the perfect solution to me: a
text only, non proprietary method for adding truly rish
formatting to email? Sounds great to me.)
Why does mail need truly rich formatting? In my opinion, most doesn't.
Dave
5. Would people like the option to get their mail in HTML
format?
Please don't remove the ability to receive everything in plaintext, if you
do add this feature.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444
re: #5 - Yes I would love to get CFTalk in HTML format. It doesn't have to look fancy
or have graphics (in fact, it would be better without), but I would appreciate anchor
links in the index to go directly to the post of your choice.
, 2003 12:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin) List upgrades
I am one who will vote NO on HTML list mail.
Most lists of this size are much more efficiently handled by the wide
variety of
mail clients as plain text.
I for one, would not be impressed with all the gee-whiz signatures,etc
At 08:51 AM 09/15/03 -0400, Sandy Clark wrote:
I also vote No on HTML.
I would prefer no HTML.
T
Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer? Move
them to the Net!
www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your
favourites in one place and
access them
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Sent: 15 September 2003 13:51
To: CF-Talk
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re: #5 - Yes I would love to get CFTalk in HTML format. It doesn't have
to look fancy or have graphics (in fact, it would be better without),
but I would appreciate anchor links in the index to go
A few questions:
1. What is the best RSS reader?
Dunno 0_0
2.a link on each post to send the user directly to the post in the
archive.or after (a footer)?
A footer.
3.does anyone actually look at the message footers?
Sometimes. If they were pretty HTML probably a lot more.
5. Would
To: CF-Talk
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A few questions:
1. What is the best RSS reader?
Dunno 0_0
2.a link on each post to send the user directly to the post in the
archive.or after (a footer)?
A footer.
3.does anyone actually look at the message footers?
Sometimes. If they were
ditto.
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From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
No HTML please. or maybe as a setting in preferences?
tony weeg
sr. web applications architect
navtrak, inc
1. What is the best RSS reader?
FeedDemon
2. I'm going to add in a link on each post to
send the user directly to the post in the archive. Should
this link be before the message (a header) or after (a
footer)?
Footer
3. As an extension to the previous question, does
anyone actually
2. I'm going to add in a link on each post to send the user directly to
the post
in the archive. Should this link be before the message (a header) or after
(a
footer)?
Footer.
3. As an extension to the previous question, does anyone actually look at
the
message footers?
When I need to
: 1. What is the best RSS reader? I'm writing an RSS feed for all
: of the lists and
: I'd like to know what people are using and what they feel is the
: best. The RSS
: feed will be expanded to FA as well.
Well, now you've gone and made me want to look into RSS feeds.
: 2. I'm going to add in a
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
(As an aside - I've never understood the war against HTML
email/NNTP posts. It seems the perfect solution to me: a
text only
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:45:04 -0400, in cf-talk you wrote:
I'll also throw my hat in the ring as being pro UseNet - I'd much rather
participate via NNTP. It's not a deal-breaker by any means (I'm here!)
but it would be very nice.
Did you know you can already get the list via NNTP? I have been
that would consume bandwidth
Ah ah! Here come the Usenet groupies! ;-))
How much larger a file is if one uses HTML for italic or bold on some parts of text?
10%? 20%?
Ok, let's say 25%; Now how many characters in an average message in this group? 100?,
200?
Ok, lets say 250.
Now 25% of 250 is
]
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: (Admin) List upgrades
A few questions:
1. What is the best RSS reader? I'm writing an RSS feed for all of the
lists and I'd like to know what people are using and what they feel is
the best. The RSS feed will be expanded to FA as well. 2
Claude Schneegans wrote:
that would consume bandwidth
Ah ah! Here come the Usenet groupies! ;-))
How much larger a file is if one uses HTML for italic or bold on some parts of text?
10%? 20%?
Ok, let's say 25%; Now how many characters in an average message in this group?
100?, 200?
RE: HTML Email
I think everyone should be given the choice to receive the emails in HTML or not.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: (Admin) List upgrades
A few questions:
1. What
Jim Davis wrote:
(As an aside - I've never understood the war against HTML email/NNTP
posts. It seems the perfect solution to me: a text only, non proprietary
method for adding truly rish formatting to email? Sounds great to me.)
Have you ever looked at the sourcecode of what the average
AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
RE: HTML Email
I think everyone should be given the choice to receive the emails in
HTML or not.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject
On Monday 15 Sep 2003 16:10 pm, Claude Schneegans wrote:
How much larger a file is if one uses HTML for italic or bold on some parts
of text? 10%? 20%?
For me, it's not the size of the email.
It's the 32 point purple text.
And the inability to quote.
And the web bugs.
I could go on...
--
Tom
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Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
RE: HTML Email
I think everyone should be given the choice to receive the emails in HTML or
not.
-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: (Admin) List
- Original Message -
From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 10:39 PM
Subject: (Admin) List upgrades
A few questions:
1. What is the best RSS reader? I'm writing an RSS feed for all of the
lists and
I'd like to know what
something,
put it at a website and point to it. Easy.
J
-Original Message-
From: Rachel Maxim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re:(Admin) List upgrades
re: #5 - Yes I would love to get CFTalk in HTML format. It doesn't have to
look fancy
AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
H ... so I read all my email in plaintext. I get email that says see
the stuff in red ... I don't see any red. This does NOT aid communication.
I like the status quo -- post in plain text.This list is full of people who
have webspaces
Plain text is like speaking in a monotone.
Exactly, plain text is flat text.
Not being able to use at least some bold, italic, or monospace font for code in 2003
is simply dumb.
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin) List upgrades
Plain text is like speaking in a monotone.
Exactly, plain text is flat text.
Not being able to use at least some bold, italic, or monospace
font for code in 2003 is simply dumb
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
yeah, but a 2K HTML email with 10 1px clear GIFs passing your email and such
to spam lists is REAL SUPER dumb. I'd prefer the text based anyday to this.
Of course, email from this list would be clean anyway, so a preferential
decision on the members part would
Here's the problem. The CF-Talk email seems to be so efficient that few come to the
HoF site as they get everything in their mail box. This basically says to all
advertisers that HoF is not a viable place to put ads and they shouldn't bother. Now
advertising has never gotten us a lot of money,
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
yeah, but a 2K HTML email with 10 1px clear GIFs passing your email and such
to spam lists is REAL SUPER dumb. I'd prefer the text based anyday to this.
Of course, email from this list would be clean anyway, so a preferential
decision on the members part would
monotony of plain text.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re:(Admin) List upgrades
Here's the problem. The CF-Talk email seems to be so efficient that few come
to the HoF site as they get
Why not take Google's lead w/ text only ads? That would work well w/ both options for
format.
-Original Message-
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
I wouldn't oppose a banner
yeah, but a 2K HTML email with 10 1px clear GIFs passing your email
This is another legend spread by Usenet groupies.
Who wants to send huge images in mails?
Any one can shout out bad words in plain text, but we still don't do it here, do we?
With HTML any one can display a huge image, this does
Education Division
-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re:(Admin) List upgrades
Here's the problem. The CF-Talk email seems to be so efficient that few
come to the HoF site as they get everything
No images, no web bugs, no tables, no colors. Just text formatting.
This sounds quite reasonable.
But please allow the standard HTML tags, not this dumb [i]...[/i] stuff like in MM
forums.
The PRE.../PRE tags would be usefull also to show code.
Currently outlook takes about 5-10 minutes to download and sort them all
So with HTML it will take from 15 to 30 more seconds ? Not a big deal.
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: -Original Message-
: From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:42 PM
: To: CF-Talk
: Subject: Re:(Admin) List upgrades
:
:
: Here's the problem. The CF-Talk email seems to be so efficient
: that few come to the HoF site as they get
or not, but it is where I work and I know we've
decided that our outgoing bandwidth can be better used than for html
formatted email.
-Kevin
- Original Message -
From: Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: (Admin) List
the document more readable. Plain text works fine, but formatted text
works a bit better.
Best regards,
Michael Wilson
-Original Message-
From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:18 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
I don't really have
: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin) List upgrades
Currently outlook takes about 5-10 minutes to download and sort them
all
So with HTML it will take from 15 to 30 more seconds ? Not a big deal
: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
Use some elementary math and multiply that by 100-1000.
It _is_ a big deal.
Can anyone direct me to an email list that uses HTML over text?
Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division
: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
The Fusebox lists on Topica used to. They no longer exist though.
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John Wilker wrote:
Plain text is like speaking in a monotone. There is no emphasis on concepts,
ideas, etc.. I can't stand trying to get something across when I don't even
have Bold to work with :)
Considering there is a better tag for EMphasis as Bold, I think
you have just explained why
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
pondering
Perhaps its time to introduce two HTML Email standards? A Lite and Full approach
maybe. Hard to validate this I suppose. Maybe all email will be XML based in the
future anyhoo?
/pondering
text/enriched exists for quite a while already.
Jochem
Not everyone's email client supports HTML email for good reasons. That
means you either have to decide to require an HTML email client, which
will definitely alienate some members, or go multipart alternative,
which will end up increasing file size.
Let me say, the first time I see purple (or any
://www.evoch.com/
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin) List upgrades
John Wilker wrote:
Plain text is like speaking in a monotone. There is no emphasis
on concepts,
ideas
, September 15, 2003 3:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin) List upgrades
John Wilker wrote:
Plain text is like speaking in a monotone. There is no
emphasis on concepts,
ideas, etc.. I can't stand trying to get something across
when I don't even
have Bold to work with :)
Considering
the WorldWide SQL Server Usergroup does... it works out fine.
http://www.sswug.org/
Jeff
- Original Message -
From: Adam Wayne Lehman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:04 PM
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
Use some elementary math
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin) List upgrades
John Wilker wrote:
Plain text is like speaking in a monotone. There is no emphasis
on concepts,
ideas, etc.. I can't stand trying to get something across when
) 933-3651
MT Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MT WWW: http://www.evoch.com/
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin) List upgrades
John Wilker wrote:
Plain text is like speaking
: http://www.evoch.com/
-Original Message-
From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin) List upgrades
That's funny - I use Mozilla's Thunderbird mail client, and when text is
enclosed in *asterisks
On Monday, Sep 15, 2003, at 10:41 US/Pacific, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
but also have the footer be clean and nice looking. This would mean
that the links would come out as links
Most(*) mail clients auto-hyperlink things that look like
http://blah.blah.blah - you don't need HTML for that.
*
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Plain text certainly does *NOT* have to be like speaking in a monotone.
^
There have been standard conventions for emphasizing text in email/usenet
for ages.
--
Mosh Teitelbaum
evoch, LLC
Tel: (301) 942-5378
Fax: (301) 933-3651
Always one at every party. :)
This is dumb to me, move it away!
;)
-Original Message-
From: Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 12:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
cf_2cents
The arguement for against HTML emails is getting
John Wilker wrote:
I don't know about you but That seems like an aweful lot of work just to
emphasize a word, not to mention wasting a line.
I suppose you don't see any *emphasis* in this line either then?
If not, try a real email client.
Jochem, I didn't get the point you were making.
On Monday, Sep 15, 2003, at 13:02 US/Pacific, John Wilker wrote:
I don't know about you but That seems like an aweful lot of work just
to
emphasize a word, not to mention wasting a line.
Mosh's example is a little over the top. *bold* and _italic_ are
actually the 'standard' forms of
.
Knowing m$ it's boldcuzwerock/boldcuzwerock
-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin) List upgrades
On Monday, Sep 15, 2003, at 13:02 US/Pacific, John Wilker wrote:
I don't know about you
Nope. But then again Outlook can only do so much.
Sounds like you need a better system ;)
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin) List upgrades
John Wilker wrote:
I don't know about
://www.evoch.com/
-Original Message-
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
I don't know about you but That seems like an aweful lot of work just to
emphasize a word, not to mention wasting
and then multiply 100 or 1000.
*jk* eric
^^
-Original Message-
From: Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
cf_rant sarcasm=heavy
And for all those arguing about the bandwidth...count the emails that have
been created since the inception of this thread...then start counting up
your
This is another legend spread by Usenet groupies. Who wants
to send huge images in mails? Any one can shout out bad words
in plain text, but we still don't do it here, do we? With HTML
any one can display a huge image, this does not mean we'll dot
it.
Based on my experiences with some
Plain text is like speaking in a monotone. There is no
emphasis on concepts, ideas, etc.. I can't stand trying
to get something across when I don't even have Bold to
work with :)
That's funny, I can pick up any novel and read it just fine, beginning to
end, and they readily convey their
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
Plain text is like speaking in a monotone. There is no
emphasis on concepts, ideas, etc.. I can't stand trying
to get something across when I don't even have Bold to
work with :)
That's funny, I can pick up any novel and read it just fine, beginning to
end
of html email :)
Be strong!
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
This is another legend spread by Usenet groupies. Who wants
to send huge images in mails? Any one can shout out
John Wilker wrote:
Nope. But then again Outlook can only do so much.
Sounds like you need a better system ;)
Why would I need a better system? My email client is quite a bit
better on standards support as Outlook (Express) is. I even can
configure it to support different quoting styles. I
Most Email clients send HTML messages as multipart messages, so you're
sending both a HTML and a plain text version. That adds to the bandwidth
quite a bit.
Looking forward to the RSS feed mike!
Also mike, why don't you add advertising to the pages in:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/cache
I was kidding. Outlook gets the job done. To each his own.
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin) List upgrades
John Wilker wrote:
Nope. But then again Outlook can only do so much
can anyone explain why .dat files are coming in to cftalk email?
odd?
tw
-Original Message-
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
I was kidding. Outlook gets the job done. To each his own
If Dave leaves, I'm leaving too!
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
This is another legend spread by Usenet groupies. Who wants
to send huge images in mails? Any one can
What dat you mean? Couldn't resist. I don't get any, that I know of anyway.
-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
can anyone explain why .dat files are coming in to cftalk
: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
I was kidding. Outlook gets the job done. To each his own.
-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 1:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (Admin
I vote YES on digest in HTML format if
1) it's an option
2) if you can organize the html output so that the
threads collapse and expand using JavaScript
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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
Plain text is like speaking in a monotone. There is no
emphasis on concepts, ideas, etc.. I can't stand trying
to get something across when I don't even have Bold
Hi,
Novelists are professional authors with refined skills in conveying the
sentiment of their thoughts, emotions, and surroundings. Some of us are not
so talented. :)
Best regards,
Michael Wilson
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I wonder how they do it?
Good point Dave (actually, cheap shot), but I think he would
like to get something across without having to write a novel,
as I am sure we would like to understand it without having
to read a novel.
My point is simply that formatting isn't essential to comprehension, and in
many cases is
Novelists are professional authors with refined skills in
conveying the sentiment of their thoughts, emotions, and
surroundings. Some of us are not so talented. :)
Perhaps, but there are plenty of lousy novelists, and yet you wouldn't
suggest to them that they use formatting to become better
But some does - and most folks do expect (as they can in
their word processors) to, at the very least, bold, italicize
and underline (things we mimic badly in email with
_underlining_ and BOLDING).
I've never found a need to do this, in all the mail I've sent.
In our situation the
There have been standard conventions for emphasizing text in email/usenet
for ages.
As you say quite judiciously, they have been there for ages.
It's about time we use something not so obsolete.
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Plain text certainly does *NOT* have to be like speaking in a monotone.
^
That funny: you used exactly 35 extra characters to do this,... compared to only 7 in
HTML.
Should we conclude that HTML would save on the bandwidth? ;-)
|
| Perhaps, but there are plenty of lousy novelists, and yet you wouldn't
| suggest to them that they use formatting to become better writers, would
| you?
|
This is why every novelist has an assigned editor. All the novelist has to do
is tell the story, and the editor does the formatting
Superfluous to you perhaps, maybe not to others. Some might grasp an email
better if it provides a visual queue here and there.
-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (Admin) List upgrades
Good
the WorldWide SQL Server Usergroup does.
All Microsft niews groups allow HTML Never heard of any complain.
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Perhaps, but there are plenty of lousy novelists, and yet
you wouldn't suggest to them that they use formatting to
become better writers, would you?
This is why every novelist has an assigned editor. All the
novelist has to do is tell the story, and the editor does
the formatting
Cuz it just happens here :)
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From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:40 PM
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the WorldWide SQL Server Usergroup does.
All Microsft niews groups allow HTML Never heard of any
in conveying the
sentiment of their thoughts, emotions, and surroundings. Some of us are not
so talented.
Yes, and programing, especially in CF, can bring sentiments and emotions even the best
talented novelist would have hard time to convey ;-)
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
2. I'm going to add in a link on each post to send the user directly to the
post
in the archive. Should this link be before the message (a header) or after (a
footer)?
Footer. I've been on lists with added junk at the top and it's incredibly
annoying. I don't really
: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:52 PM
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in conveying the
sentiment of their thoughts, emotions, and surroundings. Some of us are
not
so talented.
Yes, and programing, especially in CF, can bring sentiments and emotions
even the best talented novelist would have
Most(*) mail clients auto-hyperlink things that look like
http://blah.blah.blah - you don't need HTML for that.
Yes, but most e-mail clients also have a problem with long URLs. HTML
e-mail would solve that problem.
Benjamin S. Rogers
http://www.c4.net/
v.508.240.0051
f.508.240.0057
Not to mention http://blahblah.com/myblahpage.cfm takes a lot more visible
space than _my link_
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From: Benjamin S. Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:22 PM
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Most(*) mail clients auto
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