RE: (OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-06 Thread Pascal Peters
I can't back you up with data, but don't forget forms (value attributes of input, option and content of textarea). Pascal -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 August 2004 06:10 To: CF-Talk Subject: (OT?) White space and search engines I'm

Re: (OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-06 Thread Kay Smoljak
Hi Michael, Less whitespace is always a good thing, but it's not really a big issue for search engines. The code to content ratio (ie, efficiency of html) is more of an issue, as is getting the relevant keyword-rich content as close to the top of the page as possible. I guess what I'm trying to

Re: (OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-06 Thread Kevin Graeme
Why not just enable HTTP compression on the web server? -Kevin - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:10 PM Subject: (OT?) White space and search engines I'm giving a presentation on RegEx this Wed

Re: (OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-06 Thread Claude Schneegans
it will make the page smaller It will surely do, but may be not as much as one could think. When one look at the source code of a page, one can be amazed by the percentage of white space, sometimes it looks like 50% of the page is white space. However the white space is mostly caused by tabs

RE: (OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-06 Thread mdinowit
Didn't think of those. Thanks. _ From: Pascal Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 3:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: (OT?) White space and search engines I can't back you up with data, but don't forget forms (value attributes of input, option and content

RE: (OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-06 Thread Michael Dinowitz
have limited experience with webserver based compressors. _ From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 8:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: (OT?) White space and search engines Why not just enable HTTP compression on the web server? -Kevin - Original Message

RE: (OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-06 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Actually, it counts heavily on coding style. I like lots of space, indents and the like in my code. You read my code and it's beautiful. This does add extra material to the html source. Just look at an average archive page (go to the link at bottom) and you'll see extra space. _ it will

Re: (OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-06 Thread Claude Schneegans
I like lots of space, indents and the like in my code. Sure, it helps for readibility, but what I mean is that it does not take as many characters as the apparent space they generate. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See

Re: (OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-06 Thread Kevin Graeme
AM Subject: RE: (OT?) White space and search engines http compression on a dynamic page? Yes, it'll make the stream faster but the actual content is the same. Even with white space management turned on, CF has extra space that can't be removed by a web server based compression engine (at least

Re: (OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-06 Thread Kevin Graeme
Oh. I glossed over the SEO aspect. I don't recall anything about better placement because of a single line. Erika would probably know though. -Kevin I'm under the impression that if this is done, it will make the page smaller and also increase the pages search engine position as it makes the

Re: (OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-06 Thread Matt Robertson
CF has a free gzip cfx thats been available for quite awhile.Works great.You need cfx_GZip and cf_GZipPage.I've been running it on its highest setting for years with no trouble. -- --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. mysecretbase.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast

(OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I'm giving a presentation on RegEx this Wed. and one of the things I'll be showing is a tight little piece of code that will compress a webpage by removing all 'extra' spaces (and tabs, new lines, etc.) from all places other than script and pre tags. I'm under the impression that if this is done,

Re: (OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-05 Thread brobborb
DEATH TO CODE READABILITY?!!! - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:10 PM Subject: (OT?) White space and search engines I'm giving a presentation on RegEx this Wed. and one of the things I'll be showing is a tight little piece

Re: (OT?) White space and search engines

2004-08-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
. You'll have to take the tag out or uncompress the html to debug it, but you'd only use the tag on finished code anyway. DEATH TO CODE READABILITY?!!! - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:10 PM Subject: (OT?) White space and search