RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-09-24 Thread Rick Faircloth
+1 for Sublime Text 2! -Original Message- From: Paul Kukiel [mailto:pkuk...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 11:52 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite? Sublime is amazing I have just switched. It's not free but if you use

RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-09-24 Thread Rick Faircloth
/cf editor that is similar to Homesite? +1 for Sublime Text 2! -Original Message- From: Paul Kukiel [mailto:pkuk...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 11:52 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite? Sublime is amazing I have just

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-09-24 Thread .jonah
[mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 12:14 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite? +1 for Sublime Text 2! -Original Message- From: Paul Kukiel [mailto:pkuk...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 11:52 PM

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-19 Thread Larry Lyons
I teach web design and web programming at a public high school. I have been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it has issues). Are there any current text editors that play well with HTML, CSS, JavaScript,

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-19 Thread Donnie Bachan (Gmail)
I know this option isn't free but you may want to contact them and see if you can work something out with them since it's for educational use. http://www.sublimetext.com/ This is probably the best editor I've ever used. It is very similar to Homesite in may respects but it just takes it to a

RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-19 Thread Eric Roberts
(and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite? I know this option isn't free but you may want to contact them and see if you can work something out with them since it's for educational use. http://www.sublimetext.com/ This is probably the best editor I've ever used. It is very similar

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-14 Thread Raymond Camden
I'd argue that the 'spirit' of that mode should preclude someone from using it in a classroom environment. (Unless the licenses are paid for of course.) On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Paul Kukiel pkuk...@gmail.com wrote: Sublime is amazing I have just switched. It's not free but if you use

Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
I teach web design and web programming at a public high school. I have been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our environment (locked down C drive, network drives...trust me, it has issues). Are there any current text editors that play well with HTML, CSS, JavaScript,

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Scott Stewart
I think there's a CF plugin for Notepad++ On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Pete Ruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.comwrote: I teach web design and web programming at a public high school. I have been using homesite for my classes, but it doesn't play well in our environment (locked down C

RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J
Notepad++ http://notepad-plus-plus.org It even has a plugin for ColdFusion. -Original Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:pruckelsh...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 10:16 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite? I teach web

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Ihrig
http://www.ultraedit.com/downloads/ultraedit_download.html http://download.cnet.com/HomeSite/3000-10247_4-10001199.html ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Russ Michaels
+1 for Notepad++ On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Paul Ihrig pih...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.ultraedit.com/downloads/ultraedit_download.html http://download.cnet.com/HomeSite/3000-10247_4-10001199.html ~| Order the

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Carl Von Stetten
Another +1 for Notepad++. -Carl ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive:

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Gerald Guido
1++ for Notepad++. Also Komodo Edit is pretty slick. It supports CSS, JS, PHP etc.with code hinting and code complete. Not as light weight as Notepad++ but it is a very nice product. http://www.activestate.com/komodo-edit HTH G! On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Carl Von Stetten

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Tim L (g-mail)
Anybody having a problem getting the Notepad++ cold fusion Lexer plug-in to install? On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Gerald Guido gerald.gu...@gmail.comwrote: 1++ for Notepad++. Also Komodo Edit is pretty slick. It supports CSS, JS, PHP etc.with code hinting and code complete. Not as

RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Perez, Percy
It would not install successfully using the plugin manager. I installed manually. -Original Message- From: Tim L (g-mail) [mailto:homet...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 1:49 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite? Anybody

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Tim L (g-mail)
- From: Tim L (g-mail) [mailto:homet...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 1:49 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite? Anybody having a problem getting the Notepad++ cold fusion Lexer plug-in to install? On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:44 PM

RE: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Perez, Percy
the plugin manager. I installed manually. -Original Message- From: Tim L (g-mail) [mailto:homet...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 1:49 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite? Anybody having a problem getting

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Gerald Guido
Anybody having a problem getting the Notepad++ cold fusion Lexer plug-in to install? You have to do it manually. The installer does not work. Go here and DL the latest version and follow the instructions in the zip file: https://bitbucket.org/bbluemel/nppcoldfusion/downloads That worked like a

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Kym Kovan
Nobody has mentioned Sublime Text 2 http://www.sublimetext.com/2 a superb editor, a natural if you are moving on from Homesite On 14/08/2012 00:15, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote: I teach web design and web programming at a public high school. I have been using homesite for my classes, but it

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Steve Milburn
Sublime Text 2 is not free. -Steve On Monday, August 13, 2012, Kym Kovan wrote: Nobody has mentioned Sublime Text 2 http://www.sublimetext.com/2 a superb editor, a natural if you are moving on from Homesite On 14/08/2012 00:15, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote: I teach web design and web

Re: Modern (and free) html/cf editor that is similar to Homesite?

2012-08-13 Thread Paul Kukiel
Sublime is amazing I have just switched. It's not free but if you use it as the free version its the same just has a pop up to purchase every now and then. Highly recommended for a speedy editor. Paul. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Kym Kovan dev-li...@mbcomms.net.au wrote: Nobody has

Which CF editor for Mac?

2008-06-09 Thread nic olai
Hi all, i search for a good free Coldfusion-Editor for Mac? On PC i use Homesite+ and it works real good. If you got a Softwarelink please tell me. Thank´s and best regards Nic. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most

Re: Which CF editor for Mac?

2008-06-09 Thread Jake Churchill
CFEclipse. Just grap Eclipse for Mac and install the CFEclipse plugin Jake Churchill CF Webtools 11204 Davenport, Ste. 100 Omaha, NE 68154 http://www.cfwebtools.com 402-408-3733 x103 nic olai wrote: Hi all, i search for a good free Coldfusion-Editor for Mac? On PC i use Homesite+ and

Re: Which CF editor for Mac?

2008-06-09 Thread Raymond Camden
Eclipse with CFEclipse/CF Extensions? I use TextMate for simple file editing (ie, things not in an Eclipse Project). On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:39 AM, nic olai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, i search for a good free Coldfusion-Editor for Mac? On PC i use Homesite+ and it works real good.

Re: Which CF editor for Mac?

2008-06-09 Thread Adam Haskell
Yes cfeclipse, but TextMate with the CFML pack is nice as well. If eclipse intemidates you check out pulse (http://www.poweredbypulse.com/) it takes the hassle out of eclipse. Adam Haskell On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eclipse with CFEclipse/CF

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-04 Thread Michael Christensen
So if I have a file - file.cfc for example - I could split it up easily? But would I still be able to instanciate it the same way? I am sure you know as well as I, that sometimes refactoring is just not an option... That's true, although with either CFCs or includes there are easy ways to

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-06-04 Thread Eric Roberts
into separate CFC's? Would that be any more efficient than having them in one big file (as long as they were all related of course). Eric /*-Original Message- /*From: Michael Christensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 5:42 AM /*To: CF-Talk /*Subject: Re: Best CF

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-04 Thread Brian Kotek
If the file is so large that the IDE can't load it, that means we're talking about thousands or tens of thousands of lines of code. It really needs to be split up into smaller components that do more specific things, because what this really becomes is an example of an anti-pattern known as a God

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-04 Thread Larry Lyons
So if I have a file - file.cfc for example - I could split it up easily? But would I still be able to instanciate it the same way? Yes `0 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-04 Thread Larry Lyons
So if I have a file - file.cfc for example - I could split it up easily? But would I still be able to instanciate it the same way? Yes, just make sure you're not using a cfinclude within a function. That exposes all protected local vars. Rather include the entire function as in !---

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-04 Thread s. isaac dealey
I can see how a CFC can get large as is it supposed to be a library of like functions, so if you had a site that had a calendar that was cfc based (for instance) and you had all of you calendaring functions in that cfc, that could get huge. Would you really want to break up the functional

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-04 Thread s. isaac dealey
So if I have a file - file.cfc for example - I could split it up easily? But would I still be able to instanciate it the same way? Yeah, CFCs in particular would be functionaly the same. -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a change? ph: 617.365.5732

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-06-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
-Original Message- From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 7:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best CF editor? So if I have a file - file.cfc for example - I could split it up easily? But would I still be able to instanciate it the same way? Yeah

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 30 May 2008, Aaron Rouse wrote: I looked earlier and believe I have 3.3.2 Workspace-wide search is in the 3.3 series too. Probably 3.2 if I remember my home machine right... -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Sunday 01 Jun 2008, Aaron Rouse wrote: How do you know with 100% certainty that some other editor is not going to change the code on you in some odd ball case? DW mangles my code (I've seen it do it, years ago). Eclipse, in many years of using it, has never mangled my code. So just on the

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Saturday 31 May 2008, Michael Christensen wrote: and HomeSite for the large files (until I may eventually have time to split them up). That's the thing, CFEclipse chokes on files once their size gets so big you should refactor them anyway :-) -- Tom Chiverton

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 30 May 2008, Qing Xia wrote: But work set? Have not done that. I am going to look it up in the online references you have so graciously provided. I'd skip learning it, and jump straight to the (free) Mylyn plugin, which automatically filters the file navigator based on what files you

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Sunday 01 Jun 2008, s. isaac dealey wrote: the unlikely event that Dreamweaver did corrupt a file, recovery is pretty simple. *When you notice*. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread Jason Durham
for a project with Mark? :) -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 3:55 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best CF editor? On Saturday 31 May 2008, Michael Christensen wrote: and HomeSite for the large files (until I may eventually have time

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread Michael Christensen
I am sure you know as well as I, that sometimes refactoring is just not an option... On Saturday 31 May 2008, Michael Christensen wrote: and HomeSite for the large files (until I may eventually have time to split them up). That's the thing, CFEclipse chokes on files once their size

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread Eric Roberts
ROFL /*-Original Message- /*From: Jason Durham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 8:59 AM /*To: CF-Talk /*Subject: RE: Best CF editor? snipped /*It's nice to see some DWers come out of the closet! So who's going to /*get the DW logo tattooed on their arm and apply

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread Dawson, Michael
Hi. I'm Mike and I'm a Dreamweaver user. It's nice to see some DWers come out of the closet! So who's going to get the DW logo tattooed on their arm and apply for a project with Mark? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread Raymond Camden
You are aware - I hope - that CFEclipse has FTP support? It's the FIle Browser. It works both with local paths and FTP paths. One benefit it has over RDS is: a) Most folks disable RDS on production b) I love that w/ FTP, I can specify a folder to jump to immediately. With RDS I have to dig down

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread Raymond Camden
)Eclipse. :) -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best CF editor? You are aware - I hope - that CFEclipse has FTP support? It's the FIle Browser. It works both with local paths and FTP paths. One

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread Jason Durham
Subject: Re: Best CF editor? You are aware - I hope - that CFEclipse has FTP support? It's the FIle Browser. It works both with local paths and FTP paths. One benefit it has over RDS is: a) Most folks disable RDS on production b) I love that w/ FTP, I can specify a folder to jump to immediately

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread s. isaac dealey
I am sure you know as well as I, that sometimes refactoring is just not an option... That's true, although with either CFCs or includes there are easy ways to divide the file up into multiple without actually refactoring them and take just a few minutes. cfif b...1000 lines of

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread s. isaac dealey
Tom Chiverton said: On Sunday 01 Jun 2008, Aaron Rouse wrote: How do you know with 100% certainty that some other editor is not going to change the code on you in some odd ball case? DW mangles my code (I've seen it do it, years ago). Eclipse, in many years of using it, has never mangled

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-02 Thread s. isaac dealey
On Sunday 01 Jun 2008, s. isaac dealey wrote: the unlikely event that Dreamweaver did corrupt a file, recovery is pretty simple. *When you notice*. Given what I've seen, I wouldn't put not noticing down as being particularly likely. -- s. isaac dealey ^ new epoch isn't it time for a

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-01 Thread Massimo Foti
Unless someone tells me the code view doesn't change code - I will never run DW. Period. I believe someone earlier in the thread said that it was indeed fixed, but who would want to use an editor w/o knowing if it will muck with your code?? The problem with the XML's entities is now fixed in

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-01 Thread Raymond Camden
I think Massimo's point a msg ok makes a good point. You are right - no program is w/o bugs. But I'd rather avoid the bugs I know about. Anyway, this is just my personal opinion now. On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Raymond

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-01 Thread s. isaac dealey
Ok, but if you KNOW that there is a 0.01% chance of DW messing with your code, that wouldn't worry you? I can just imagine the hours wasted trying to figure out why somehting isn't working and it turns out to be the editor messing with the file. Sorry - even if it is 1 in a 1000, or 1 in

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-01 Thread s. isaac dealey
How do you know with 100% certainty that some other editor is not going to change the code on you in some odd ball case? I honestly think I have had Notepad, if it was not this then it was some built-in editor on this Mac, change a display character on me before, should I ban that from use

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-06-01 Thread Aaron Rouse
So the bugs that you have been made known about, you do in fact use those specific syntaxes in XML? On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Massimo's point a msg ok makes a good point. You are right - no program is w/o bugs. But I'd rather avoid the bugs

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-06-01 Thread Dave Watts
It's similarly unable to understand the carriage returns inserted into documents on Macs, so when you open those you get one big mass of text with no returns at all. To be accurate, it understands those carriage returns just fine. What it doesn't understand is that, on a Mac, a carriage

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Aaron Rouse
CF editor? /* /*Massimo(sp?) gave an example that I believe others were able to repeat /*where /*DW rewrites and XML file. I have seen DW do this for one of ours, here is /*what the files have prior to opening them: /* /*StyleSearch/StyleSearch /* /*When opened up in DW the display shows

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread s. isaac dealey
The only thing I had in CFEclipse that I'd like to see in Dreamweaver is the ability to get a list of methods in a CFC Available since 3 years on my website :-) http://www.massimocorner.com/dreamweaver/coldfusion/cf_function_nav.mxp Thanks Massimo! Exactly what I was looking for. :) --

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread s. isaac dealey
That was back when DW was a design tool and didn't have the code view. It also had the horrible Mac disembodied windows. We also were not happy with the first version of it after MM dropped CfStudio. It has improved greatly along the road to 8. I still wish they would make a version of it

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Les Mizzell
DW7 was better and DW8 was really nice...though as Ray pointed out...there was no SVN integration, which sucked. There's a public beta of DW 9 out now, with some nice enhancements. A work saving feature for me is a related files panel that clearly shows any includes, imported files, blah,

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Eric Roberts
I guess I assumed it was 7... eric /*-Original Message- /*From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 12:27 AM /*To: CF-Talk /*Subject: Re: Best CF editor? /* /* DW7 was better and DW8 was really nice... /* /*Ehmm... DW 7 actually never

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Eric Roberts
Yeah, but until 5, I really wouldn't call it code view... /*-Original Message- /*From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 12:30 AM /*To: CF-Talk /*Subject: Re: Best CF editor? /* /* That was back when DW was a design tool and didn't have the code view

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Michael Christensen
Basically, it seems my choices come down to something like this; HOMESITE PROS: sturdy and reliable CONS: not being updated ECLIPSE PROS: free, lots of good features, nice functions for CF CONS: buggy, doesn't handle large files, even critical bugs seem to take a LONG time to get fixed APTANA

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Eric Roberts
:19 AM /*To: CF-Talk /*Subject: Re: Best CF editor? /* /* That was back when DW was a design tool and didn't have the code view. /*It /* also had the horrible Mac disembodied windows. We also were not happy /*with /* the first version of it after MM dropped CfStudio. It has improved /*greatly

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Eric Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The separate windows thing really bugged me...but then again I really dislike Macs too. It's one of the things I hate about gimp too, but unfortunately I am forced to use that. DW has had a docked, full MDI since the MX2004

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Eric Roberts
Yeah...and that was a major improvement. The separate windows kept me from using DW prior to that. Eric /*-Original Message- /*From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /*Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:52 PM /*To: CF-Talk /*Subject: Re: Best CF editor? /* /*On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:10

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless someone tells me the code view doesn't change code - I will never run DW. Period. I believe someone earlier in the thread said that it was indeed fixed, but who would want to use an editor w/o knowing if it will

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Aaron Rouse
How do you know with 100% certainty that some other editor is not going to change the code on you in some odd ball case? I honestly think I have had Notepad, if it was not this then it was some built-in editor on this Mac, change a display character on me before, should I ban that from use and

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Aaron Rouse
My problem with it appears to have been fixed in CS3 and is not repeatable in CS4. And as I pointed out before my problem is so insanely rare to happen to us that it is damn near not worth even mentioning. On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 31,

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Raymond Camden
Ok, but if you KNOW that there is a 0.01% chance of DW messing with your code, that wouldn't worry you? I can just imagine the hours wasted trying to figure out why somehting isn't working and it turns out to be the editor messing with the file. Sorry - even if it is 1 in a 1000, or 1 in 1,

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Raymond Camden
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Les Mizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grab it and let Adobe know what you think... Unless someone tells me the code view doesn't change code - I will never run DW. Period. I believe someone earlier in the thread said that it was indeed fixed, but who would want

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Eric Roberts
-Talk /*Subject: Re: Best CF editor? /* /*Ok, but if you KNOW that there is a 0.01% chance of DW messing with /*your code, that wouldn't worry you? I can just imagine the hours /*wasted trying to figure out why somehting isn't working and it turns /*out to be the editor messing with the file

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Aaron Rouse
Yes, but if we ignore that it happens with very specific things and just hound and hound on the fact that it happens then it is more fuel to the fire against DW. On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-31 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Raymond Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, but if you KNOW that there is a 0.01% chance of DW messing with your code, that wouldn't worry you? I can just imagine the hours wasted trying to figure out why somehting isn't working and it turns out to be the

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 29 May 2008, Raymond Camden wrote: Or do you mean DW in general? Yeah, wasn't clear, sorry :-) I've not played with the beta (doesn't run on Linux) but SVN is 'just another' RCS system, it's not 'code oriented' as such - it's 'file oriented' as much as anything. As Flex Builder /

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 29 May 2008, Gerald Guido wrote: I am one behind: 1.6.0_05. You think it would make a diff? I'm actually using the beta (1.6.0_10-beta) day to day, and found it faster than 0_06 was. They've put effort into improving startup performance, for instance. -- Tom Chiverton

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Mark Drew
All my contractors have to be CFEclipse using, Meat eatin' and Beer Drinking mad persons. Its part of the contract. If they have tattoo's they get a bonus. MD On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:30 AM, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect it's actually a fair observation, unfortunately. It

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread mac jordan
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Josh Nathanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm right there with you Kay. People are afraid to admit they use DW because of the Eclipse gestapo. Absolutely - I have tried and tried to like Eclipse, but it's too project-based for me, and I miss DW's code

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 30 May 2008, James Holmes wrote: It's amazing that a choice of IDE could affect a teleworking contract. In a remote-team environment, I think it's fairly important everyone has the same tools (and the same problems with them). -- Tom Chiverton

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread James Holmes
I'd want to look at code before assuming that it was built with a wizard. On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vill build a IDE that will last two zounsand yearz! Ehem... no.. its the fact that if you made the effort to know CFEclipse, in comparison to the

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Mark Drew
James I get a number of CF's through, people claim many things on that nice bit of fiction that is called a CV. When I get to choosing people for interviews, people with Eclipse, Frameworks, version control etc etc will be getting through (well, not all the time) but at least it gives me an idea

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Mark Drew
That should have been CV's rather than CF's ;) On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James I get a number of CF's through, people claim many things on that nice bit of fiction that is called a CV. When I get to choosing people for interviews, people with

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 30 May 2008, Mark Drew wrote: CFEclipse, in comparison to the WYSIWYG coders, you at least know they can type code and not just do it using Dreamweavers tutorials/helpers I assume this is why most places set a practical programing test as part of the interview. -- Tom Chiverton

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread James Holmes
When was the last time you looked at Dreamweaver's code view? On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its like reading that they have used Access compared to MS SQL to me. -- mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles: http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 30 May 2008, Gerald Guido wrote: because of the Eclipse gestapo. I am sorry. The WHAT? The Eclipse gestapo? You HAVE to be kidding me. Oh, no, everyone who uses Eclipse is a member of the Thousand Year Riche. Oh yes. Let me just check my suitcase for Scotch on the Rocks Laptop:

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread mac jordan
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: James I get a number of CF's through, people claim many things on that nice bit of fiction that is called a CV. When I get to choosing people for interviews, people with Eclipse, Frameworks, version control etc etc will

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Mark Drew
I vill build a IDE that will last two zounsand yearz! Ehem... no.. its the fact that if you made the effort to know CFEclipse, in comparison to the WYSIWYG coders, you at least know they can type code and not just do it using Dreamweavers tutorials/helpers etc. Its a quick discrimination from

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Mark Drew
I have used Dreamweaver a lot. And I have looked at the code view and used it (not just tried it, Its the fourth tool in my armoury of editors) so I am not belittling the tool at all. And no, I am not blinkered, I am NOT saying that if you have Dreamweaver you will not get the job, it depends on

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Raymond Camden
The project based thing does bug me about me Eclipse as well. I think the bug for Let me double click on a file and open it in Eclipse is something like 10 years old (Ok, maybe not 10...) I get that projects are better, but not being able to quickly edit a file just seems... silly. Now that being

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Rick Faircloth
Just so I can continue to follow this little tit for tat... What is blinkered? -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best CF editor? I have used Dreamweaver a lot. And I have looked at the code

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Gerald Guido
All my contractors have to be CFEclipse using, Meat eatin' and Beer Drinking mad persons. Its part of the contract. If they have tattoo's they get a bonus. -- Ribeye, -- Baltica No. 9 -- Motorhead insignia ad the Obey Giant Star So, you hiring? G On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:53 AM, Mark Drew

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Jason Durham
Ah... shows how much I know. I didn't know there was a CS4 yet. :) -Original Message- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 8:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best CF editor? Did you try it with DW CS4? I assume all extensions for CS3 would work

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Mark Kruger
Rick... Don't encourage them Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE (402) 408-3733 ext 105 www.cfwebtools.com www.coldfusionmuse.com www.necfug.com -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Best CF editor

Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Greg Luce
? -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best CF editor? I have used Dreamweaver a lot. And I have looked at the code view and used it (not just tried it, Its the fourth tool in my armoury

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Mark Drew
In ye olde times, and even now I presume, horses were given blinkers, these little leather things so they wouldnt look to the sides and could only look in one direction, the one you were pulling their heads in. Kinda kinky in an SM thing I guess, but meaning that I can only see in one way, being

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Greg Luce
is blinkered? -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best CF editor? I have used Dreamweaver a lot. And I have looked at the code view and used it (not just tried it, Its the fourth tool in my

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Aaron Rouse
This is basically what bugs me about DW, it has this cloud around it that if someone uses it then they must be using wizards, tutorials/helpers, and/or WYSIWYG features. I have been using it for 4 years now and simply because the people I do the bulk of my work for, they use it and in that entire

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Rick Faircloth
It's the closest I come to viewing a soap opera... As the IDE Churns... -Original Message- From: Mark Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Best CF editor? Rick... Don't encourage them Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE (402

RE: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Rick Faircloth
Gotcha... we call them blinders, I think...(not being an equestrian)... -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Best CF editor? In ye olde times, and even now I presume, horses were given blinkers

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Gerald Guido
: Best CF editor? I have used Dreamweaver a lot. And I have looked at the code view and used it (not just tried it, Its the fourth tool in my armoury of editors) so I am not belittling the tool at all. And no, I am not blinkered, I am NOT saying that if you have Dreamweaver you

Re: Best CF editor?

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 30 May 2008, Aaron Rouse wrote: and getting into an argument with a friend who insisted that she needed an old version of CFStudio because, in her head, Homesite screws up code. Even now (the design view of) DW does screw up your CFML, as attested in this very thread. (CF)Eclipse

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