RE: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-17 Thread Russ
-Original Message- From: Gerald Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: DB choice for small Intranet site I have no problem with MSSQL. You should note the Express management console does not support import and export which

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-17 Thread J.J. Merrick
No-Blanket-statement rules suggest that Microsoft is exempt since it has been found that in 90% of cases (my own survey) that it is true therefore earning a go card for all blanket statements against it. :-) -J.J. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Dominic Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As

RE: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-17 Thread William Seiter
] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: DB choice for small Intranet site I have no problem with MSSQL. You should note the Express management console does not support import and export which can be a royal pain when moving from devel to production. The full evaluation

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-17 Thread Dominic Watson
If anyone knows a way to import/export using a tool like SQL Server Management Studio Express, or any tool that would connect to a Virtual Hosted MSSQL database, could you let me know? I see this project coming in the near future and my previous research indicates no 'good' way to do it.

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-17 Thread Dominic Watson
You may have to jump a few hoops to get the DTS 'plugin' to work but maybe not... I should clarify; there is no issue with it working, you just may need to add it to the 'external tools' list in Management Studio Express to access it from within the studio; google should help with that. It's

RE: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-17 Thread Russ
That is exactly what my blog post was about. Russ -Original Message- From: Dominic Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: DB choice for small Intranet site You may have to jump a few hoops to get the DTS 'plugin

DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread henry ho
Which DB would you choose (MSSQL Express / Apache Derby) for a small (4gb, with only 10 simultaneous connections) intranet CF App? I only used MS-SQL before, and I found the management studio very easy to work with. The only concern I have is the limitation of the Express version might get

RE: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread Russ
- From: henry ho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: DB choice for small Intranet site Which DB would you choose (MSSQL Express / Apache Derby) for a small (4gb, with only 10 simultaneous connections) intranet CF App? I only used MS-SQL

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
-Talk Subject: DB choice for small Intranet site Since there's no management studio like MSSQL for Derby (or MYSQL), anyone tried RDS support in CFEclipse? Can I use that to create/manage/backup the DB? Is it reliable

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread Gerald Guido
The first thing that popped in my head was MySQL. Samll, light weight and faast. I have been using it on production sites (CF and PHP) since v 3.x and only had 2 beefs with it. I had couple table corruption errors a few years back which repair fixed nicely. The other was not being able to

RE: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread Jim Davis
-Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 10:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DB choice for small Intranet site Personally, I like MS SQL Express. The only thing is that it doesn't come with an agent, AFAIK, so you'll need to find another

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread Aaron Rouse
I am not much of a MSSQL person but if you meet that limitation one day, can't you easily upgrade things into the full version? I have been using Oracle XE for similar needs that you have and also for moving things to/from development workstations to our development/production environments

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread Gerald Guido
I remember looking at Oracle XE(?) a year or so ago. Doesn't it suck up a couple of hundred megs of ram? Or was that something else? I don't remember which version I tried out but I *do* remember it was using some ungodly amount of ram. G On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Aaron Rouse [EMAIL

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread denstar
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the first I'm hearing of Apache Derby, and although I'm sure it's a nice project, it's written in Java, which means it will be slower then MSSQL Just because it's java doesn't mean it's got to be slow. :] HSQLDB is

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread J.J. Merrick
I would go with MySQL and yes there are GUI's out there such as NaviCat, which I personally use, that rival Enterprise Manager and the Management suite. I also like the fact it isn't microsoft. It scales rather nicely so there are few to no limitations on it. It also has a fairly small memory

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread Aaron Rouse
I honestly have never paid attention because never had RAM issues. I do not think my 2003 box here has more than a few gigs of RAM in it and it is used for MSSQL Express, Oracle XE, Active Directory for the domain, minimal shared file storage and ColdFusion 8 and it never has resource issues and

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread Gerald Guido
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 10:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DB choice for small Intranet site Personally, I like MS SQL Express. The only thing is that it doesn't come with an agent, AFAIK, so you'll need to find another way to do backups. I second SQL Server

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread Mike Harman
The last small project I developed was a sales application that met the limits you mentioned (4Gb and 10 connections) . I compared MySQL (which I am a big fan of), and MS SQL Express. My customer was on a very tight budget and a commercial license (because the software is private and not

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
denstar wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the first I'm hearing of Apache Derby, and although I'm sure it's a nice project, it's written in Java, which means it will be slower then MSSQL Just because it's java doesn't mean it's got to be

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
henry ho wrote: Which DB would you choose (MSSQL Express / Apache Derby) for a small (4gb, with only 10 simultaneous connections) intranet CF App? Of the choices you present I would choose MS SQL Express. Derby is either a hassle to install, or you need to run it embedded in CF which I do

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread Dominic Watson
As far as saying Apache Derby being slow just because it is on top of Java is pretty baseless and making blanket statements like that are just about as bad as saying ColdFusion sucksand is slow because MySpace crashes all the time. As much a blanket a statement as I also like it cos its'

Re: DB choice for small Intranet site

2008-03-16 Thread denstar
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: denstar wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the first I'm hearing of Apache Derby, and although I'm sure it's a nice project, it's written in Java, which